Fwd: GRACEH cfp
Daria Bocharnikova
From: Romano (HEC), Antonella <Antonell...@eui.eu>
Date: Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:51 PM
Subject: RE: GRACEH cfp
To: "Parenti, Francesca" <Francesc...@eui.eu>, "Bocharnikova, Daria" <Daria.Boc...@eui.eu>
Dear Daria,
Many thanks for the message and the point you make about advertising the conference. For obvious diplomatic reasons, it would be better to wait the january DM and the aproval by the dep. of the porject and budget. I would thus invite you to prepare the adquate document in order to submit it to the january DM (we cant' do it before because of the budgetary calendar based on the civil year: this means that the dep. has not been willing to examine funding requests for workshops and conferences to be organised by next january).
Would you need more information, i am ready to answer. best, antonella
From: Daria Bocharnicova [mailto:dashaboc...@gmail.com]
Sent: martedì 30 novembre 2010 2.47
To: Parenti, Francesca
Cc: Elia, Francesca
Subject: GRACEH cfp
Dear Francesca,
Here is the call for papers for GRACEH 2011 in word doc. We also made a blog, http://graceh2011.wordpress.com/, so please when dissiminating call for papers, do not forget to put this link too. The call for papers has to be sent out on December the 1st at latest, if there is any other information you might need, please contact me.
Thank you a lot for help,
Daria BOCHARNIKOVA
PhD Researcher
European University Institute
Department of History and Civilisation
Villa Schifanoia
Via Boccaccio 121
50133 Firenze
ITALY
Website: www.eui.eu
Mobile: +39 349 0825536
--
Daria BOCHARNIKOVA
PhD Researcher
European University Institute
Department of History and Civilisation
Villa Schifanoia
Via Boccaccio 121
50133 Firenze
ITALY
Website: www.eui.eu
Mobile: +39 349 0825536
Qvistgaard, Magnus
Dear all
First of all, thank you Daria for setting up the webpage and looking into the budget! I have had a look at the old budget myself and have a number of observations. (I am sorry, but to those of you who haven't looked at the budget yet, this is going to be bad news).
Antonella’s remark aside, which I too find puzzling, not to say downright unnerving; I find to be rather small!
Accommodation: The budget calculates with only 15 participants staying in 8 double rooms for 2 nights, and 2 participants staying in single rooms. Now, this must have been a very small conference, unless there were a lot of people from the EUI participating! Besides, who would like to share a room with a complete stranger, which is what we are offering our participants?
Travel expenses: Last budget calculated with travel expenses for € 267 (one professor from Leiden). In other words, if we operate approximately within the same budget as last, we can pay for one keynote speaker, and as far as people apply for reimbursement of travel expenses, as we told them they could, we have to tell them no.
Honestly I don’t know what to suggest, unless we get a bigger budget we are not going to be able to accommodate 30 people and as far as keynote speakers are concerned, we don’t have to think too hard about who we would like, because we are only going to have one.
...
Ok, here is what I really think we should do:
Use whatever leverage we have within the department to get an increase in the budget so we can invite more people than the 17 persons that were accounted for in the last budget. Besides, it ought to be possible to get some kind of estimate of what the department think that they may be likely to approve of, even if we wait until January with the official approval. Oughtn’t it?
On our new webpage we have to announce what the free accommodation covers, so people know what they are in for –maybe adding an option to pay for your own single room. And, of course, cancel the offer of partial travel reimbursement.
Keynote speakers: I too am in favour of asking Matthias Middell, but I think we already talked about him when we had the first meeting about the conference. Apart from Middell, let’s try to think of who we could ask without having to pay for them – like Philipp Ther, as Vienna is part of the conference they may be able to pay for him. I could also try to ask my external supervisor, Tore Rem, he is not a historian, but has worked on literature and transfer – let me know if I should ask him!
These are my thought so far, or as a famous war poster reads: Keep calm and carry on!
Best
Magnus
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Sendt: on 01-12-2010 14:00
Til: grace...@googlegroups.com
Emne: Fwd: GRACEH cfp
Hanne
I too am unsettled by Antonella's remarks, which seem to indicate that
we should not advertise the conference (which I think we have to, if
anyone is to come) and that we have no idea of knowing what sort of
budget we might get. I always thought budgets were actually decided
beforehand, but apparently not at the EUI. And, as Magnus remarked, it
was also a very small and rather stingy budget.
I'll be in Florence next week, and can go with Daria and whoever else
is there and put some pressure on the department or at least seek some
clarity. It is strength in numbers!
Best wishes Hanne
On Dec 2, 12:32 pm, "Qvistgaard, Magnus" <Magnus.Qvistga...@EUI.eu>
wrote:
>
> First of all, thank you Daria for setting up the webpage and looking into the budget! I have had a look at the old budget myself and have a number of observations. (I am sorry, but to those of you who haven't looked at the budget yet, this is going to be bad news).
>
> Antonella's remark aside, which I too find puzzling, not to say downright unnerving; I find to be rather small!
>
> Accommodation: The budget calculates with only 15 participants staying in 8 double rooms for 2 nights, and 2 participants staying in single rooms. Now, this must have been a very small conference, unless there were a lot of people from the EUI participating! Besides, who would like to share a room with a complete stranger, which is what we are offering our participants?
>
> Honestly I don't know what to suggest, unless we get a bigger budget we are not going to be able to accommodate 30 people and as far as keynote speakers are concerned, we don't have to think too hard about who we would like, because we are only going to have one.
>
> ...
>
> Ok, here is what I really think we should do:
>
> Use whatever leverage we have within the department to get an increase in the budget so we can invite more people than the 17 persons that were accounted for in the last budget. Besides, it ought to be possible to get some kind of estimate of what the department think that they may be likely to approve of, even if we wait until January with the official approval. Oughtn't it?
>
>
> Keynote speakers: I too am in favour of asking Matthias Middell, but I think we already talked about him when we had the first meeting about the conference. Apart from Middell, let's try to think of who we could ask without having to pay for them - like Philipp Ther, as Vienna is part of the conference they may be able to pay for him. I could also try to ask my external supervisor, Tore Rem, he is not a historian, but has worked on literature and transfer - let me know if I should ask him!
> These are my thought so far, or as a famous war poster reads: Keep calm and carry on!
>
> Best
>
> Magnus
>
> ________________________________
>
> Fra: grace...@googlegroups.com på vegne af Daria Bocharnikova
> Sendt: on 01-12-2010 14:00
> Til: grace...@googlegroups.com
> Emne: Fwd: GRACEH cfp
>
> sounds puzzling....
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Romano (HEC), Antonella <Antonella.Rom...@eui.eu>
> Date: Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:51 PM
> Subject: RE: GRACEH cfp
> To: "Parenti, Francesca" <Francesca.Pare...@eui.eu>, "Bocharnikova, Daria" <Daria.Bocharnik...@eui.eu>
>
> Dear Daria,
>
> Many thanks for the message and the point you make about advertising the conference. For obvious diplomatic reasons, it would be better to wait the january DM and the aproval by the dep. of the porject and budget. I would thus invite you to prepare the adquate document in order to submit it to the january DM (we cant' do it before because of the budgetary calendar based on the civil year: this means that the dep. has not been willing to examine funding requests for workshops and conferences to be organised by next january).
> Would you need more information, i am ready to answer. best, antonella
>
> Sent: martedì 30 novembre 2010 2.47
> To: Parenti, Francesca
> Cc: Elia, Francesca
> Subject: GRACEH cfp
>
> Dear Francesca,
>
> Thank you a lot for help,
>
> Daria BOCHARNIKOVA
> PhD Researcher
> European University Institute
> Department of History and Civilisation
> Villa Schifanoia
> Via Boccaccio 121
> 50133 Firenze
> ITALY
>
> --
> Daria BOCHARNIKOVA
> PhD Researcher
> European University Institute
> Department of History and Civilisation
> Villa Schifanoia
> Via Boccaccio 121
> 50133 Firenze
> ITALY
> Mobile: +39 349 0825536
Daria Bocharnikova
Cheers,
Daria
From: Romano (HEC), Antonella <Antonell...@eui.eu>
Date: Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: GRACEH cfp
Cc: "Parenti, Francesca" <Francesc...@eui.eu>
Dear, Sorry for the delay in my reply to you... and also sorry for the confusion!
There are some administrative constrains to keep in mind and this was my major concern. Nevertheless, i take some of your points.
The call is about to be advertised through our channels (if this is not already done).
With regard to the budget, we normally examine the requests corresponding to the budgetary year (which is the civil year), this is the reason why i suggested you to submit it in january (a way to look at the different requests). But let's make an exception and let's go in december.
Sorry for this, i will be happy to have a coffee with you next week (so that we can see how to present the budget in the case you would need it), i had no time unfortunately yesterday for this...
Hope everything is ok now. Best and have a good day, antonella
Prof. Antonella Romano
Chair of History of Science
European University Institute
Department of History and Civilization
Villa Schifanoia
Via Boccaccio 121
50133 Florence - Italy
To: Romano (HEC), Antonella
Subject: Re: GRACEH cfp
Dear Antonella,
I am a bit confused. My major concern is that the cfp has to be dissiminated
as early as possible, and we are already a bit late with that. So I
completely understand if you suggest not to advertise it internally but I
don't see why shouldn't we send it out. The deadline for abstracts is
February 1st, we just can not wait till mid january and then send out cfp.
However, the decision of the department on the budget will be decisive for
us when accepting people's papers. Then we can indeed see what scale of the
event we can afford. This all can be indeed negotiated in 2011 there is no
rush with that. Did you ask Francesca not to pass cfp to the communication
unit? Can the project be not approved for that year? Can it be the case that
the department will say we have no money for the conference this year? And
if the project has not yet been approved may be then the conference project
can be presented already in December and the money issue can be discussed in
January. My assumption was that the Department of History is aware of the
project and had approved it.
Hope it sounds not too confusing to you. thank you for explaining to me how
does this bereaucray functions! And shall we catch up for coffee? Or you
prefer genre épistolaire?
Best,
Daria
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Romano (HEC), Antonella <
Antonell...@eui.eu> wrote:
> examined before 2011. Best, antonella
>
> Prof. Antonella Romano
> Chair of History of Science
> European University Institute
> Department of History and Civilization
> Via Boccaccio 121
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dashaboc...@gmail.com on behalf of Daria Bocharnikova
> Sent: Wed 01/12/2010 16:46
> To: Romano (HEC), Antonella
> Subject: Re: GRACEH cfp
>
> Dear Antonella,
>
> Franacesca asked me to prepare the preliminary budget already for the DM on
> the 15th of December. Why do you suggest to wait untill January?
>
> Kind regards,
> Daria
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Romano (HEC), Antonella <
> Antonell...@eui.eu> wrote:
>
> > Dear Daria,
> >
> > Many thanks for the message and the point you make about advertising the
> > conference. For obvious diplomatic reasons, it would be better to wait
> the
> > january DM and the aproval by the dep. of the porject and budget. I
> would
> > thus invite you to prepare the adquate document in order to submit it to
> the
> > january DM (we cant' do it before because of the budgetary calendar based
> on
> > the civil year: this means that the dep. has not been willing to examine
> > funding requests for workshops and conferences to be organised by next
> > january).
> > Would you need more information, i am ready to answer. best, antonella
> >
> >
> >
> > *Sent:* martedì 30 novembre 2010 2.47
> > *To:* Parenti, Francesca
> > *Cc:* Elia, Francesca
> > *Subject:* GRACEH cfp
> >
> >
> > Dear Francesca,
> >
> > Here is the call for papers for GRACEH 2011 in word doc. We also made a
> > for papers, do not forget to put this link too. The call for papers has
> to
> > be sent out on December the 1st at latest, if there is any other
> information
> > you might need, please contact me.
> >
> > Thank you a lot for help,
> >
> > Daria BOCHARNIKOVA
> > PhD Researcher
> > European University Institute
> > Department of History and Civilisation
> > Villa Schifanoia
> > Via Boccaccio 121
> > 50133 Firenze
> > ITALY
> > Website: www.eui.eu
Daria Bocharnikova
here is also a fb page: http://www.facebook.com/donagh1?v=wall#!/event.php?eid=115992238467908
cheers,
Daria