- Lean startup appraoch [2 Updates]
Dylan Jay <dja...@gmail.com> Aug 24 04:49PM +1000
On 24/08/2012, at 2:27 PM, Rory Ford wrote:
> complete waste of money and time.”
> I'm also interested in learning more about any Australian government
> examples in applying a lean startup approach.
As much as we can we (pretaweb.com) try to work in this style with our
clients (mainly state government agencies). However the tender process
tends to work against us as it generally requires a fixed price and
requirements set in stone. Even given this we've done some of our
bigger jobs by breaking down the work into iterations and setting the
expectation that what would be delivered in an iteration (2 weeks)
would be determined at the beginning of each iteration rather than set
in stone based on the original tender. This is more like SCRUM rather
than the pure LEAN approaching you're referring to.
It's sad but I think the only way government departments can take a
more experimental approach is only by using internal resources due to
limitations in the tender process and unfortunately that limits the
quality of the resources they can draw on.
It's nice to see it happening in other governments however. Another
example is https://www.gov.uk/ (turning out to be quiet expensive for
them it seems). It would be great to see a recognition in government
that a lean approach can greatly reduce costs and increase the
likelihood of success.
Pia Waugh <pia....@gmail.com> Aug 25 07:06AM +1000
> more experimental approach is only by using internal resources due to
> limitations in the tender process and unfortunately that limits the
> quality of the resources they can draw on.
Can I suggest you guys have a coffee with Don Easter, the Federal Gov's IT
Supplier Advocate. It is his job to look at how Gov procures from IT SMEs
and to try to make it easier so they can tap into SME potential better. I
believe he has done a bunch of work reviewing tendering and other
procurement processes and would, I'm sure, be interested in any specific
recommendations about how procurement policy could be changed.
I'd be interested too once I start my new job :)
> that a lean approach can greatly reduce costs and increase the
> likelihood of success.
> Sounds good. There are also a lot of cultural changes in how gov
organisations see tech, tech people, tech projects, and indeed the broader
culture of risk aversion that also will need to evolve to see the kind of
approach you are suggesting. Not that we should wait till then, but there
are people in gov who want to innovate, so seek them out :)
chieftech <james....@gmail.com> Aug 24 10:58PM -0700
The team who are behind the agile alpha and now beta approach to developing
uk.gov occasionally share their experiences on the UK's Government Digital
Pia - I've talked to the IT Supplier Advocate previously (in a past role in
a regional ICT cluster) and I got the impression that it wasn't really
their scope to address the procurement process itself.
However, it might be worth talking to someone like Matthew Hodgson (from
Zen Ex Machina) about his experiences of agile project management in
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