Coiny - Latin + Tamil display typeface

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Marcelo Magalhães

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Jul 31, 2015, 9:44:37 PM7/31/15
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Hello!

Today I'm starting a new project for GWF with great challenges ahead, very different than my first type, Londrina //  https://github.com/marcelommp/Londrina-Typeface typeface. //

I named this project Coiny, because I think it's a funny name, easy to talk and also it's linked with some of inspirations what I'm looking to draw my first letters. As the letterings that we can see in a Hot-Dog or Ice Cream stand. Certainly with some coins in your pocket you can have some fun. Searching for inspiration in vernacular typography to mix elements with the simplicity of a geometric modular font are my goals to start drawing. Fat-face and Fun are keywords of this project.






In addition to the Latin alphabet I'll work also in Tamil, that is a great opportunity to dive into another culture. And of course, using and helping to improve the tools that I  love to work and encouraging the use in my classes here in Brazil, Inkscape and Fontforge, it's gonna be great.

I hope to get help and opinions of everyone!

Marcelo Magalhães

https://github.com/marcelommp/Coinyhttp://marcelommp.github.io/Coiny/

Twitter: @tipografialibre
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Today's work
• Get involved with social network to share this project
• Understand Github in general and publish a page via Github pages
• Organize references to start a presentation to share the development of this typeface

Tomorrow's Work
• Draw a lot on paper
• Start testing some shapes in Inkscape
• Share with Felipe a screenscast using powerstroke and a similar tool from proprietary software



Tharique Azeez

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Aug 2, 2015, 8:22:40 AM8/2/15
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Hi Marcelo,

This is exciting. I look forward to seeing the progress of Coiny, especially Tamil counterpart.

On your presentation, I see, you have enclosed a collage (reference image) for Tamil, but the image on top right corner is only representing the Tamil script. Everything else is from different scripts. But, don't fret, I have collected some reference images for you on a board for your inspiration. :) Here it is https://www.pinterest.com/enathu/tamil-street-typography/

Good luck, and I look forward to seeing your progress on Coiny. :)

Thank you.

Cheers.

Tharique Azeez

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Marcelo Magalhães

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Thanks a lot Tharique, I have a lot to learn about Tamil and your help is very important.

Aaram Tamil looks very interesting and look for its development will help me to start my own alphabet in Tamil.

I I'm following your board on pinterest right now!

Cheers,

Marcelo

Marcelo Magalhães

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Aug 3, 2015, 9:46:59 PM8/3/15
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*Today's work*
• Screencast about Inkscape PowerStroke and Illustrator width tool
• First sketches of Coiny (very first)

*Tomorrow's Work*
• Draw a lot on paper, produce a lot of better *nep's* examples
• Try to incorporate some geometrical shapes // combine this with some
vernacular flavor
• Reinstall Inkscape and screencast new tests with simple shapes





Marcelo Magalhães

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Aug 4, 2015, 7:01:31 PM8/4/15
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Today's work
• Reinstall Inkscape and XQuartz to work with powerstroke, still crashing
• More Sketches of Coiny
• Updating presentations with daily drawings





Tomorrow's Work

• Draw a lot on paper, produce a lot of better *nep's* examples
• Choose best options to work on Inkscape
• Make it work using powerstroke

Marcelo Magalhães

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Aug 5, 2015, 6:09:10 PM8/5/15
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Working on key letters nep


Bold in the morning and fatty after lunch:


 





Today's work

• Powerstroke tests
• Screencast of n letter with powerstroke
• Refining key letters nep, more fat, more fun, rounded


Tomorrow's Work
• Refine key letters nep on Fontforge
• Draw an e and o with powestroke
• try to import e and o powerswtroke to fontforge without convert object to path

Dave Crossland

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Aug 6, 2015, 2:15:37 PM8/6/15
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Please include links to your G+ posts about the project in these emails :) 

When is your target delivery date?

Marcelo Magalhães

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Aug 6, 2015, 2:34:44 PM8/6/15
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Please include links to your G+ posts about the project in these emails :)
 

Yes! Sorry, I forgot to share the powerstroke and fontforge experiences with everyone
 

When is your target delivery date?

OCTOBER 9

Marcelo Magalhães

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Aug 6, 2015, 7:25:51 PM8/6/15
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I've been using Inkscape and powerstroke to draw my letters of Coiny and then refine in fontforge.

I'd to share some initial tests and my discussions with Felipe Sanches who is working to improve this tools.

https://plus.google.com/110296248605870779500/posts/Vkp4zy45gzZ

https://plus.google.com/110296248605870779500/posts/CaCznMyg82k

https://plus.google.com/110296248605870779500/posts/BREtWkgY4D9

Today was great to refine some key letters I've been drawing from the beggining of the week, I have to make a lot of decisions about some basic shapes...





Today's work
• Get better curves for nep
• Creating new basic characters from lowercase, mastering components and shortcuts
• Trying some different shapes for p/b/q

Tomorrow's work
• Make decisions about the design of the lowercase
• Refine shapes
• Try to get a cool s and g

Dave Crossland

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Aug 6, 2015, 7:47:18 PM8/6/15
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I think this design will be too dark to be good as a mobile/web font. Please test it on your phone :) 

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Marcelo Magalhães

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Aug 6, 2015, 8:23:41 PM8/6/15
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Yes, it looks too dark at small size, I'll try to get bigger counters or work in a version semibold / bold not black.



Em quinta-feira, 6 de agosto de 2015 20:47:18 UTC-3, Dave Crossland escreveu:
I think this design will be too dark to be good as a mobile/web font. Please test it on your phone :) 
On 6 August 2015 at 19:25, Marcelo Magalhães <marce...@gmail.com> wrote:


I've been using Inkscape and powerstroke to draw my letters of Coiny and then refine in fontforge.

I'd to share some initial tests and my discussions with Felipe Sanches who is working to improve this tools.

https://plus.google.com/110296248605870779500/posts/Vkp4zy45gzZ

https://plus.google.com/110296248605870779500/posts/CaCznMyg82k

https://plus.google.com/110296248605870779500/posts/BREtWkgY4D9

Today was great to refine some key letters I've been drawing from the beggining of the week, I have to make a lot of decisions about some basic shapes...




Today's work
• Get better curves for nep
• Creating new basic characters from lowercase, mastering components and shortcuts
• Trying some different shapes for p/b/q

Tomorrow's work
• Make decisions about the design of the lowercase
• Refine shapes
• Try to get a cool s and g

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Felipe Sanches

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Aug 7, 2015, 1:42:32 PM8/7/15
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Marcelo,

There's something wrong with the image you attached to your message. I can only see the file data in the body of the message, instead of the image itself. Would you try to send it again, please?

Felipe

Tharique Azeez

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Aug 7, 2015, 2:05:00 PM8/7/15
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Hi Felipe,

I had the same issue in viewing the images in the body of the message from Marcelo via email. For some reason, the images are visible as normal in the forum thread. Please have a look. https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#!msg/googlefonts-discuss/D_ubv3ws4c8/-UEuJ4jPBwAJ 

Hope that helps. :)

Cheers.


​Best​

Tharique Azeez
Docendo discimus


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Marcelo Magalhães

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Hi Felipe, I thought this happened just with my first post, I can see the images of my others posts in gmail without problems.

This is the last image I posted, but i already did some modifications that I'll post later.

https://plus.google.com/110296248605870779500/posts/GUHBuoht8zM

Marcelo

Felipe Sanches

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Thanks :-)

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Marcelo Magalhães

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My work today refining some shapes, trying no to be so bold to have best results on small sizes.

Thinking about it, I have some options to follow:

1)Follow this shape, finding the balance between geometric and hand painted style, but trying to be different from this Dave mentioned as similar: https://www.google.com/search?q=modak+font&tbm=isch

2) Go to rounded hot dog style, pure and geometric curve. Can be a good option to test powerstroke with all shapes but need some flavor to become a good project.

3) Like this result because there's some kind of horizontal rhythm pushing the letters to the baseline. This version isn't refined to small size yet.







Today's work
• Refining lowercase
• Trying some new options, searching a key to this project

Tomorrow's work
• Choose the way I have to follow
• Redraw and test small sizes
• Try to make some new shapes with powerstroke

Cheers,

Marcelo

Dave Crossland

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Aug 7, 2015, 4:56:51 PM8/7/15
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On 7 August 2015 at 16:32, Marcelo Magalhães <marce...@gmail.com> wrote:

2) Go to rounded hot dog style, pure and geometric curve. Can be a good option to test powerstroke with all shapes but need some flavor to become a good project.

I think your (2) has still got some flavor, as Erin's 'hot dog' style font, https://github.com/erinmclaughlin/Hubli , is more formal 

Marcelo Magalhães

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This is the result of the today's work


Today I had a lot of problems with fontforge. I tried to reinstall in my mac the FF (l FontForge 2015-04-30) and Xquartz 3 or 4 times but without good results.
Basically FF was corrupting my .sfd files after saving and crashing when I was working on spacing or copying components.
I tried to save UFO and OTF files to backup my work but without good results, just the OTF opened but this file can't keep components.

So, let's try another strategy tomorrow

I couldn't find this FF version here:
http://fuuko.libferris.com/osx/packages/FontForge_latest-HEAD.app.dmg


Today's work
• Reintall FF so many times
• Refining lowercase

Tomorrow's work
• Refine lowercase
• Make FF works
• Try a different strategy using Inkscape

Marcelo Magalhães

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I couldn't fix fontforge in my mac but I found another computer to work, and I'll ask for help to Felipe...
Another day refining lowercase characters and drawing some new shapes, finding a balance between geometric and some relaxed curves.




Today
* Lowercase characters, fixing curves and contrast
• Drawing new shapes
• research about encode and trying to fix fontforge

Tomorrow
• Try to finish lowercase and check curves and proportions
• Spacing
• Suggest a useful tool to Inkscape

Cheers,

Marcelo

Dave Crossland

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Please also check the Maza project Sarang is posting here to ensure they are distinct :)

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Marcelo Magalhães

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I just found this Maza font from gaslight: https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/gaslight/maza/

Is that you mentioned?

I'll keep working looking forward to opinions and observations :)

Marcelo




Em quarta-feira, 12 de agosto de 2015 02:01:29 UTC-3, Dave Crossland escreveu:

Please also check the Maza project Sarang is posting here to ensure they are distinct :)

On Aug 11, 2015 7:19 PM, "Marcelo Magalhães" <marce...@gmail.com> wrote:

I couldn't fix fontforge in my mac but I found another computer to work, and I'll ask for help to Felipe...
Another day refining lowercase characters and drawing some new shapes, finding a balance between geometric and some relaxed curves.




Today
* Lowercase characters, fixing curves and contrast
• Drawing new shapes
• research about encode and trying to fix fontforge

Tomorrow
• Try to finish lowercase and check curves and proportions
• Spacing
• Suggest a useful tool to Inkscape

Cheers,

Marcelo

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Dave Crossland

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On 12 August 2015 at 09:10, Marcelo Magalhães <marce...@gmail.com> wrote:
I just found this Maza font from gaslight: https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/gaslight/maza/

Is that you mentioned?

Tharique Azeez

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Hi Marcelo,

I am replying your question you've asked on Aaram's thread, regarding the encoding in FF for Coiny. I have created a postscript encoding file for the GOADB. Please find attached ps file and load (Encoding > Load Encoding..) in FF and you'll have the option to choose the TamilPlusLatin3 encoding on the menu item. That's it. :)

On other note, for the inspiration on Tamil letterforms, I'd love to suggest you to look at Pria's Catamaran Tamil - Ultra Bold (900) weight too. https://github.com/VanillaandCream/Catamaran-Tamil 

Good luck. Can't wait to see Coiny's Tamil counterpart progress. :)

Cheers.

Tharique Azeez

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tamilpluslatin3.ps

Marcelo Magalhães

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Hey Tharique, thank you very much for the kindness :)

Very soon I'll start to drawing some Tamil characters, and your opinion will be very welcome.

cheers,

Marcelo


Em quarta-feira, 12 de agosto de 2015 13:31:42 UTC-3, Tharique Azeez escreveu:
Hi Marcelo,

I am replying your question you've asked on Aaram's thread, regarding the encoding in FF for Coiny. I have created a postscript encoding file for the GOADB. Please find attached ps file and load (Encoding > Load Encoding..) in FF and you'll have the option to choose the TamilPlusLatin3 encoding on the menu item. That's it. :)

On other note, for the inspiration on Tamil letterforms, I'd love to suggest you to look at Pria's Catamaran Tamil - Ultra Bold (900) weight too. https://github.com/VanillaandCream/Catamaran-Tamil 

Good luck. Can't wait to see Coiny's Tamil counterpart progress. :)

Cheers.

Tharique Azeez

Docendo discimus


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On 12 August 2015 at 09:10, Marcelo Magalhães <marce...@gmail.com> wrote:
I just found this Maza font from gaslight: https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/gaslight/maza/

Is that you mentioned?

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Marcelo Magalhães

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I've been working on latin lowercase and my first two Tamil glyphs.
A lot of adjustments to work, contrast and refining shapes.
I'll be working on spacing tonight and configuring some print tests.
Don't know why my Tamil letters don't fix in the fontforge glyph box... (image 5).

This tool is very useful, and I was thinking if it can work in Inkscape

Today's work
• Latin Lowercase
• Start Tamil
• Do spacing and configure tests

Tomorrow's work
• Teste space
• Refine lowercase
• Draw more Tamil









Marcelo Magalhães

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Today's work
• Latin Lowercase
• 1+ Tamil
• first spacing test

Tomorrow's work
• look for spacing
• look for proportions, contrast etc...
• Draw more Tamil


Marcelo Magalhães

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Today's work
• Latin Lowercase
• 1+ Tamil

• Spacing

Tomorrow's work
• start latin caps
• check drawing, positioning points
• Draw more Tamil



https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/blob/gh-pages/Spacing%20tests/spacing-tests.pdf






Marcelo Magalhães

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Today's work
• Starting latin uppercase
• Tamil glyphs
• lowercase adjustments

Tomorrow's work
• Uppercase
• Tamil glyphs




Marcelo Magalhães

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Today's work
•Drawing uppercase

Tomorrow's work
•Finish uppercase
•Draw more Tamil glyphs








Marcelo Magalhães

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Today's work
• Finished first round of uppercase
• Chat with Felipe about Inkscape/Fontforge issues I've experienced last week
Felipe described here our conversation: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/googlefonts-discuss/gKOXFAa1HjI/fT7mfer5JAAJ
• Update on presentation

Tomorrow's work
• Print tests
• Make adjustments and work on more spacing
• Take a look for Tamil glyphs after working on Latin





Amanita.pdf

Marcelo Magalhães

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Today

• Printing spacing tests
• Adjustments in proportions and spacing on lowercase and uppercase Latin.
• Spacing again

Tomorrow
• Latin numerals

https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/blob/gh-pages/PDF%20tests/Amanita.pdf

https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/blob/gh-pages/PDF%20tests/spacing-tests.pdf

Cheers

Marcelo



Marcelo Magalhães

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Today's work

• More Tamil Glyphs
• Some Numerals
• Chat with Felipe about a fontforge bug (encoding change)

Tomorrow's work

• Finish Numerals
• Draw more Tamil glyphs

* finish first round of Tamil untill the end of the week

https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/tree/gh-pages/UFO/Coiny-Regular.ufo


Marcelo Magalhães

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Today

• Working on numerals
• Drawing more Tamil Glyphs

Tomorrow
• Finish numerals
• Draw more Tamil

https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/tree/gh-pages/UFO/Coiny-Regular.ufo

Cheers,

Marcelo

Dave Crossland

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Hi

Thanks Marcelo. Are you still interested in Modular Tamil 3488?

Cheers,
Dave

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Marcelo Magalhães

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Hi Dave, I don't think so.
There's a lot of good references here and I'm working on Tamil at the same time I refine the Latin alphabet, mixing the shapes.

Thank you anyway,

Cheers,

Marcelo

Marcelo Magalhães

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Today's work

• Working on numerals and punctuation marks

Tomorrow's work

• Finish punctuation marks
• Test font / Latin spacing

https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/tree/gh-pages/UFO/Coiny-Regular.ufo


Cheers,

Marcelo

Marcelo Magalhães

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Today

• Diacrits and punctuation
• Testing Pria's Catamaran file with Coiny

Tomorrow

• Back to Tamil
• Print some proofs to make adjustments
• Show some ideias to inkscape/fontforge to Felipe and talk about fontforge plugins

https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/tree/gh-pages/UFO/Coiny-Regular.ufo

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Hello,

Today I was moving my glyphs from Coiny .sfd file to Pria's Catamaram file as Dave suggested, it's a great reference to work with and I can use the opentype. But I have a doubt about my curves.
I'm uploading 2 image, G_1 (my original drawing) and G_2 (my drawing after pasted in Pria's Catamaram). I noted some new curve points created after paste in Pria's file and I just wondering if this is a automatic resource of fontforge to correct my curves or a plugin I wasn't using while working in my original file, and I'm thinking if is better to clean up again my shapes to get less numbers of points using this reference.




Marcelo

Dave Crossland

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On 31 August 2015 at 14:36, Marcelo Magalhães <marce...@gmail.com> wrote:
Today I was moving my glyphs from Coiny .sfd file to Pria's Catamaram file as Dave suggested, it's a great reference to work with and I can use the opentype. But I have a doubt about my curves.
I'm uploading 2 image, G_1 (my original drawing) and G_2 (my drawing after pasted in Pria's Catamaram). I noted some new curve points created after paste in Pria's file and I just wondering if this is a automatic resource of fontforge to correct my curves or a plugin I wasn't using while working in my original file, and I'm thinking if is better to clean up again my shapes to get less numbers of points using this reference.

<img style="" src="data:<;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAvsAAAJ7CAYAAAB9MV6WAAAYMWlDQ1BJQ0MgUHJvZmlsZQAAWIWVeQdUFE2zds/OBhZ2yTnnnHOQnJPkjOKypCVLBkEkiAIqmFABQZKIJMEAIiIgoCiCBAHBA

Please put such images in your github and link to them :) 

Marcelo Magalhães

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Felipe Sanches

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Marcelo,

Can you send me a copy of the original .sfd and the resulting one so
that I can take a look more closely?

Dave, do you have any insight on Marcelo's question?

Felipe
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Marcelo,

Based on the PNGs that I got from your git repository, by overlaying
the two images on top of each other using Inkscape, I could see that
the resulting curve is precisely the same. It seems that fontforge may
have done some vector algebra to generate intermediate points while
keeping the curves equivalent. It is not clear to me why it did it.
Maybe Dave has a clue. It seems, also, that these are 2 different
modes. The new one reuses control points in all consecutive path
segments.

Dave, is there a project global setting in fontforge for selecting the
behaviour of the path editing tool? Maybe that's what was triggered in
this case?

Dave Crossland

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Thanks! You opened get ttf, not her source file, so ff is converting your pasted cubic outline into quadratic, which is bad :)

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Felipe Sanches

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Marcelo,
try loading the sfd project and redoing your pasting and if you
continue having problems let me know and I can help you in person this
week when we meet at your office.

Dave's comment clarified things and I'll be able to help you.
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Marcelo Magalhães

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Thanks Felipe and Dave!

Cheers,

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Dave Crossland

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On 31 August 2015 at 15:22, Felipe Sanches <ju...@members.fsf.org> wrote:
Marcelo,

Based on the PNGs that I got from your git repository, by overlaying
the two images on top of each other using Inkscape, I could see that
the resulting curve is precisely the same.

Depends how precise you are ;) It is not the same, but it is mostly the same.
 
It seems that fontforge may
have done some vector algebra to generate intermediate points while
keeping the curves equivalent. It is not clear to me why it did it.

The additoinal points are added to make the contours as similar as possible.
 
Maybe Dave has a clue. It seems, also, that these are 2 different
modes. The new one reuses control points in all consecutive path
segments.

 
Dave, is there a project global setting in fontforge for selecting the
behaviour of the path editing tool? Maybe that's what was triggered in
this case?

Element, Font Info, Layer, All Layers {Cubic,Quadratic}

Marcelo Magalhães

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Today I worked with Felipe and we talked about some Fontforge issues, Inkscape and Powerstroke. I was demonstrating to him how useful is the InterpolateCPSmotins tool on Fontforge and we find that maybe it can be incorporate to Inkscape. I had some problems using anchors and we'll try to find together what is happening tomorrow but despite some little daily problems, Fontforge looks stable.

Tomorrow
• Adjustments on Latin based on my print proofs
• Draw more Tamil looking for proportions between Latin glyphs

Marcelo Magalhães

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Working with Tamil Glyphs, adjusting and testing proportions with Latin alphabet.
 I'm still trying to figure out how to work with anchors in fontforge, if I'm getting a bug or doing something wrong.
At this moment I'm working in Londrina, a city in upstate of Paraná where I was invited to talk about Inkscape and Fontforge for a bunch of interested students of the local university. Coming back Wednesday to SP to talk to Felipe about some new issues I found in Inkscape while I was working in this weekend workshop. Good to work with a lot of new people interested in Libre software.

Coiny working file:

https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/tree/gh-pages/UFO/Coiny-Regular.ufo

Some print screens ofr quick view:

https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/blob/gh-pages/PDF%20tests/01.png
https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/blob/gh-pages/PDF%20tests/02.png
https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/blob/gh-pages/PDF%20tests/03.png

Tomorrow I'll work in more Tamil Glyphs.

Cheers,

Marcelo


Marcelo Magalhães

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Today:
• Finish first round of tamil Glyphs

Tomorrow:
Spacing on fontforge
print tests
Mark adjustments in drawing both Latin adn Tamil

https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/tree/gh-pages/FONTFORGE_Files
https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/tree/gh-pages/UFO/Coiny-Regular.ufo
https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/tree/gh-pages/OTF

Marcelo Magalhães

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Today's work

• Working with fontforge anchors classes to Tamil. Everything is working on "Anchor control" mode view :)
But it's not working in my PDF tests when I generate the font :(
https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/blob/gh-pages/PDF%20tests/anchor_01.png

And when I generate my PDF test the Tamil glyphs of Coiny are substitued for a defaul font.
It's not working in impallari test for Tamil glhyps too.
Probably some issue about encoding?

• Refining spacing of latin lowercase
https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/blob/gh-pages/PDF%20tests/spacing-tests.pdf

Tommorow's work

• Make my anchors and Tamil glyphs work and test
• Adjust proportions of Latin uppercase
• Create anchors for latin diacritics

Marcelo Magalhães

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Today's work
Resolved: Anchors working in fontforge / Tamil alphabet working in impallari tests :)
Still refining uppercase latin letters

Tomorrow's work

Set up all anchors for diacricts in latin alphabet
Draw missing glyphs in latin alphabet

Dave Crossland

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On 22 September 2015 at 20:44, Marcelo Magalhães <marce...@gmail.com> wrote:
Today's work
Resolved: Anchors working in fontforge / Tamil alphabet working in impallari tests :)

That's odd - I just checked the OTF and it shouldn't work in browsers as it has a bad CMAP table. I filed https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/issues/1 :)  

Marcelo Magalhães

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You're right! totally odd
I because was generating the.otf files in my desktop to test quickly and I just forget to move the file to the correct folder before commit to github :)
Now the last .otf is synced.

Marcelo Magalhães

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Today's work

I'm refining Tamil Shapes and creating Lookups/Gsubs for Glyph base substitutions in FontForge and now it's working fine :) Finally FF wants to be my friend.

Tomorrow's work

Finish the lookups for glyphs substitutions.

Dave Crossland

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Great that FF is working for you :) 

Marcelo Magalhães

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Hello!

I'm working in some PDFs tests for the Tamil version of Coiny and the anchors and some features from Gsubs tables are not working.
I think it's strange because the font is working in some softwares like Mac Text Edit and not in others like Open Office and Adobe InDesign.

Here a PDF with images of the font in use Working and Not working.

https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny/blob/gh-pages/PDF%20tests/test_tamil_01.pdf

Any tip?

Anyway, thanks Tharique and Pria for the documentation on Catamaran and Aaram, this is my base to developing Tamil for Coiny.


Marcelo Magalhães

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Thanks a lot Tharique the bug was solved using this reference:

http://blogs.adobe.com/vikrant/2012/05/indesign-cs6-indic-support-and-preferences/

Cheers,

Marcelo

Marcelo Magalhães

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I'm posting here some tests of Coiny Typeface.
The last week I was working in Fontforge with kerning and I had some crash problems usingclasses and I had to work with individuals pairs. I've been learning a lot of FF with this project and in general is working good for me.

https://github.com/marcelommp/Coiny


Coiny_tamil.pdf
Coiny_latin.pdf
Coiny_pres.pdf

Erin McLaughlin

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Hi, Marcelo!

I really enjoy your work. The Latin is looking amazing, and I like the Tamil, but I don't think that they are working well together as a pair!  I'm not sure how much time you have to make alterations to this. I've made some (quite large) suggestions in this .pdf -- some of these drawing changes you might not want to try implementing, but in any case, the spacing of the Tamil needs a lot of work. I am happy to give more specific feedback after you take an initial look at this .pdf and let me know how much detailed feedback you'd like. I haven't yet done a complete critique of all of the conjuncts, but mainly focused on the broader issues!

Thanks so much for posting your work! I enjoyed looking through this!  Let me know what you think of these suggestions. (whether you agree or disagree!) Thank you!

--Erin
Tamil_Coiny_EM-notes_2-10.pdf

Erin McLaughlin

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p.s. if you haven't been using it, the Impallari Tamil page can be helpful for looking at combinations and relationships!  http://www.impallari.com/testing/index-tamil.php
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