is there a good dart ide? no. question answered. :)
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Hallo, I have 2questions:1. How is the future of gwt , after Dart release ? Will you continuously migrate users into Dart, or Dart hasnt impact on GWT platform ?(GWT use RPC, but Dart not, it's not java)
2. where can I found some GWT real world applications (please URL) ?
http://markmail.org/message/uro3jtoitlmq6x7t
Purported to be a leaked internal email, but, who knows?. Open the
email and search for "GWT" - you'll get your answer (for "Dash" read "Dart)
Alan
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Long story short:
"What is the future of the JSCompiler and GWT?
JSCompiler and GWT were already on a merger path. This effort gives us a
direction for that unification around the Dash language. We will actively
support teams for a long time on the current generation of JSCompiler and
GWT and provide fantastic co-existence and migration tools to Dash."
Don't worry, it will be supported for long time beside the fact,
according to the linked email, it will be part of bigger something by
the time.
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People will make sure jquery 'still works' *long after* Google stops working on GWT and open sources it.
(Not good or bad, just obviously true)
Roger
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When did Go die?
Also, if it were dead, why did Google introduce it in the most recent
AppEngine API? That was two weeks ago.
http://blog.golang.org/2011/10/go-app-engine-sdk-155-released.html
Just asking...
Shawn
I still don't understand the need for dart.
if it would be cross-compiled so where is the advantage over gwt? in
gwt we have the language that we allready know and tools that were
worked out over years.
if it will be incorporated into browser as virtual machine than just
why not to incorporate the jvm? licensing issues?
and another thing - javascript is extremely powerful scripting
language. (as far as it is used for scripting -> max 300 lines of code
it's flexibility is a real power. when comes to maintaining bigger
apps this flexibility occurs to be serious flaw, but it the place
where gwt enters the play.
as i look closer at DART i start to suspect that probably it is not to
replace javascript but to replace java (and so avoid dependence to
oracle)
but do they think they can provide something better than java which
gained its maturity over years?
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(GWT) Aiming for fewer releases, less overhaul.
Regards,
Warren Tang <http://blog.tangcs.com>
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The following line is also important:
(GWT) Aiming for fewer releases, less overhaul.
Regards,
Warren Tang <http://blog.tangcs.com>
On Saturday, October 29, 2011 11:04:09 AM, Thomas Broyer wrote:
David Chandler recently put his SenchaCon slides online: http://www.dartlang.org/slides/2011/10/senchacon/index.html#39
"What about GWT?
Google is heavily invested"
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I think even Google underestimates the power of GWT in such area as refactoring existing MFC C++/Java-Swing GUI clients into Web based. I rewrote MFC C++ client into GWT in a month. And most of the heavy business logic/calculations been just copy/paste from original C++. Can’t imagine amount of work needed for such app if you use JavaScript
-Sergey
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Hi Warren,
Glad you found my SenchaCon slides (thanks, Thomas--I should have posted them here, too). Let me put some context around "fewer releases, less overhaul." Sencha's Darrell Meyer and Sven Brunken did a huge refactoring of Ext GWT last year to make it more compatible with mainline GWT. This was in part necessitated by all the major changes in GWT since 2.1: Cell widgets, Activities & Places, RequestFactory / AutoBeans, etc. The GWT team has heard from the community quite a few times "please slow down and just make it solid," and we're listening.
As to the first point ("Google is heavily invested"), many of Google's largest projects are built with GWT, and it is widely used within the company. Because GWT is open source, the community will continue to benefit from all the work that Google does on GWT in support of our own projects. This remains one of the great benefits of using GWT.
I apologize for the relative silence on this issue. In general, Google is very careful about making public commitments of any kind and rarely discusses future plans, in part because plans are subject to change.
/dmc
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Warren Tang <warren...@gmail.com> wrote:
The following line is also important:
(GWT) Aiming for fewer releases, less overhaul.
Regards,
Warren Tang <http://blog.tangcs.com>
On Saturday, October 29, 2011 11:04:09 AM, Thomas Broyer wrote:
David Chandler recently put his SenchaCon slides online: http://www.dartlang.org/slides/2011/10/senchacon/index.html#39
"What about GWT?
Google is heavily invested"
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The Google Web Toolkit team has been asked recently about our plans following the announcement of the Dart programming language a few weeks ago.
Dart and GWT both share the goal of enabling structured web programming. In fact, many of the same engineers who brought you GWT are working on Dart. We view Dart as an ambitious evolution of GWT’s mission to make web apps better for end users, and we’re optimistic about its potential. As Dart evolves and becomes ready for prime time, we anticipate working closely with the GWT developer community to explore Dart.
Meanwhile, rest assured that GWT will continue to be a productive and reliable way to build the most ambitious web apps — and even games like Angry Birds. Key projects within Google rely on GWT every day, and we plan to continue improving (and open-sourcing) GWT based on their real-world needs.