GWT Developer Job Openings

[Jeff]

Does anyone know if this group is an appropriate place to post
requests for experienced GWT developers or if there is a better forum?
The standard job sites tend to send over anyone who has heard of GWT
not actual GWT developers.

Thanks,
Jeff

[Olostan]

Hi Jeff,

Normally here are discussed technical aspects of GWT development and discussions about job offers are very rare...

I can share my expieience from opposite direction - about yeaR before I was searching for any web site with job offers for GWT developer without big succes: many sites had even filter "GWT" but enablint it gave 0 results :)

[Jeff]

I guess I should have phrased my question a little differently. As a fellow member of the GWT developer community and someone who is actively looking for skilled GWT developers, would this community find a benefit in a common thread where GWT opportunities can be posted by developers for developers?

If the answer is yes, I'm actively looking for at least two people who can legally work within the United States and are willing to relocate or travel weekly to client sites (currently west coast) to take on lead design and dev roles utilizing GWT and web services.

[Jeff Chimene]

It looks like
http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit-Employment
never found a moderator.

If it did have a moderator, that would be where I would post such a
message. No doubt there will be those who wish to wield a banhammer on
you for having the temerity to post this topic, but I don't see any
reasonable alternative right now.

Cheers,
jec

[Jeff]

Since it was a question that I was posting and clearly had the indent of finding talent that contributed to this forum (which has aided me personally in finding solutions to problems) and trying to pay it forward by to those who may not be employed there was clearly no temerity.

However, your negative response was quite unnecessary when the link alone would do. Thanks for that by the way.

</end_discussion>

[Jeffrey Chimene]

My response in no way was to be taken as a slur. I'm sorry that you read
it that way.

[Hilco Wijbenga]

On 10 July 2011 17:35, Jeff <jeffrey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> However, your negative response was quite unnecessary when the link alone
> would do. Thanks for that by the way.

Clearly he was being sarcastic. He was actually agreeing with your
posting here since there is currently no real alternative.

> </end_discussion>

Nice one. Sort of like a double negative, though, don't you think? :-)
That should probably be </discussion>. ;-)

[A. Stevko]

Without an appropriate alternative, I personally would like to encourage GWT job openings/availability to be posted here.

Not job spam but GWT jobs.

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[David Chandler]

As a moderator of this group, I reject almost a dozen job postings per day. Several per week actually relate to GWT, but even so are inconsistent with this forum's mission. However, I approved Jeff Burnham's post because I think there is some benefit in this discussion.

The GWT team doesn't feel that it's our place to maintain a GWT jobs forum; however, if the community wants to take this on, we'll certainly be glad to help promote it. Also, if there are things you want recruiters to know, I'll be happy to write up a sticky post with info for recruiters (as well as a restatement of the job postings ban on this forum).

In the mean time, if you're a GWT consultant looking for work, here's some advice I can offer as a former consultant.

1. The best jobs are those that find you, so make yourself findable. Write a GWT blog. Put "GWT developer" in your Google+ and LinkedIn profiles with a link to your Google Groups profile so recruiters can see how often you post on this group. Also put "GWT consulting" or something more descriptive in your signature so it shows up in every post on this group. Good recruiters know how to search Google Groups and StackOverflow to find the real experts.

2. Give a GWT talk at your local JUG or GTUG. Recruiters often frequent the larger JUGs and if you're giving the talk, you're their expert.

3. Get your resume in the database of every credible technical staffing shop you can find. Apply for every GWT job. Even if it's slightly over/under your abilities, that will get you in the recruiter's resume database. Put a link to your online profiles in your resume so they can read your blog, see how long you've been posting on this group, etc.

4. Post your resume in the various online job services like Dice and Monster. Don't just search for jobs--make yourself searchable. Many jobs are never posted--the recruiters search the online databases and contact you directly. Also make sure you update your resume in these services every couple months as recruiters tend to look for recent updates.

Again, let me know where you want me to direct GWT job postings, and I'll be happy to help out.

/dmc

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[Jeff Chimene]

Well, that's a nice segue!

To take nothing away from dmc's excellent advice, we still have the list
out there. As I was moving manure this morning, I was thinking about
this issue.

To that end, I would like to propose that we share the moderation task.

Given that the jobs list is a commons, we shouldn't ask Google employees
to moderate the list, and "we" and "us" means "those who subscribe to
GWT users list".

I should think that if we get somewhere between 5 and 10 volunteers, one
person from that pool can moderate the jobs list for some period
(nominally 2 weeks). At the end of that period, the next person in the
list assumes the task. Perhaps a Google calendar to track each
moderator's schedule.

The idea is to share the soul-sucking zombification that is list
management, yet still maintain a useful service to the community.

Cheers,
jec

[Jens]

Maybe the community should write a (international) GWT app for job recruitments and Google will host it for free on app engine and put a sticky post into this group with a link to that app ;-)

-- J.