Geochart Data for UK Counties

[Dale.Dev]

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone is aware of a method to set UK counties as
selectable regions on a geochart, or am I correct in assuming that
google simply do not provide this functionality as of yet?

If this is correct, would anyone be kind enough to sugest a viable
solution to acheive a similar level of functionality?

Thanks very much

[Jinji]

Sorry, but no. The province map of the United Kingdom (GB!) includes England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. We don't have a map with the resolution of counties.

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[Jérôme]

Still, the county list is on the ISO official list. It would be a lot better if the geochart could be drawn with precise county details.

[Andrew Wilson]

Hello, 

Was just wondering if this is in the pipeline and if so when a approx release date would be?

Thanks 

Andrew

On Monday, April 16, 2012 4:23:11 PM UTC+2, Jinji wrote:

Sorry, but no. The province map of the United Kingdom (GB!) includes England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. We don't have a map with the resolution of counties.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Dale.Dev <dale.de...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone is aware of a method to set UK counties as
selectable regions on a geochart, or am I correct in assuming that
google simply do not provide this functionality as of yet?

If this is correct, would anyone be kind enough to sugest a viable
solution to acheive a similar level of functionality?

Thanks very much

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[Sergey]

Hello! We currently only support 'metro' resolution for a few select areas (the US being one of them). We certainly have plans for introducing county resolution in other countries, but have not started work on this, nor do we have a release date yet.

[Carlos Moreira]

Hello Sergey!
That means that currently other selected areas, besides the US, already support 'metro' resolution?
Can you name a couple more countries that also support it?
Thanks!
Carlos

[Sergey Grabkovsky]

My apologies, I misspoke. Currently, the metro resolution is only supported for the US.

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[Carlos Moreira]

Ah, no worries :) For a moment I thought there would be others. Cheers

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[Andrew Wilson]

I am confused againJ I am not talking about metro. More the European equivalent of states. For example, I have seen maps for France with region data and Spain with province data. In the UK they are called Counties. So, there is no UK equivalent (counties) of US states yet but there are for ‘some’ European countries? This is why I thought a UK counties map might be in the pipeline. I am sure it would be very useful.

 

Thanks for the clarification.

 

Andrew

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[Sergey Grabkovsky]

The GeoChart doesn't really have a concept of 'states' or 'counties' or 'cities' or 'towns'; it only supports 5 resolutions, which may mean different things for different regions. The 'continents', 'subcontinents', and 'countries' resolutions are all fairly straightforward and standardized. The 'provinces' resolution will have the next level of organization. For the US this means states, for Greece it means administrative regions, and for the UK, it means its contained countries (England, Northern Ireland [actually a province, not a country], Scotland, and Wales), as defined by this Wikipedia page. These may be referred to as GB-ENG, GB-NIR, GB-SCT, and GB-WLS, respectively. The other resolution that I haven't yet mentioned is 'metros'. This resolution only works for the US and shows the Designated Market Areas.

This organization of sub-regions in the UK makes things a bit difficult for us. For one, if the counties in the UK are like states in the US, then they must be at the same resolution (provinces), however, if we treat the UK specially and make the counties act as provinces, then you will lose the ability to refer to countries in the UK, since there will be no resolution that includes them. Another option is to add another resolution (perhaps 'counties'?) that would allow the counties of the UK to be referred to, but again that wouldn't be accurate, if they are supposed to be like states (and therefore wouldn't be available at the same resolution as states). The third option is to make each of Wales, Scotland, and England top-level countries, but this approach also would have problems. Namely, we would lose Northern Ireland (since it's a province, not a country, and it wouldn't be accurate to show at the 'countries' resolution), and since those countries don't have ISO 3166-1 codes, you would have to refer to them differently than you would other countries (via GB-ENG, rather than the two digit ISO 3166-1 code top-level countries are supposed to have). Each of these options has its own pros and cons, but it's not obvious what the right way to go is.

- Sergey

[asgallant]

I suppose it is relevant to ask here what the appropriate analogue of a UK county actually is.  Are they primarily organizational entities, and thus comparable to US counties, or are they primarily governmental, and thus comparable to US states?  My rather severely limited understanding of the UK political structure suggests that the county-county comparison is likely more valid than the county-state comparison, but I'll leave that to the experts to determine.

If the county-state comparison is most valid, there is another potential solution, though I suspect it is mired in a sea of potential problems: the "provinces" resolution would resolve to England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales when the region is GB, and would resolve as counties when the region is set to any of England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales.  Ick, blech, yuck.  I don't like it, but it would be functional, for some definition of functional.

- Sergey

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[Andrew Wilson]

I think from a map display perspective the state/county comparison works best where the UK is concerned.

 

Pretty much like states in the US in the UK we have towns and cities which are divided into clear Counties. For example in the postal system the

address would be the town/city then the county name, i.e Hampshire then the postal code.

 

For people from the UK anyway this is much easier to understand. When you see a UK map you see the Counties. We wouldn’t normally address using England, Scotland or Wales as it is ‘usually’ fairly understood where a location is (although some people do add Scotland).  The UK itself is comprised of Scotland (country), England (country), Wales (Principality) and Northern Ireland (province) – confusing I know but Counties from all of them are usually indicated with the GB at the start.

 

I guess what I am saying is that all the counties within the UK (call then countries, provinces or whatever) have a GB code applied to them, eg

 

GB-BKM	Buckinghamshire
GB-NYK	North Yorkshire
GB-CKF	Carrickfergus

GB-GWN

Gwynedd

 

So why can’t a map be created just using this data?                                                     

 

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I suppose it is relevant to ask here what the appropriate analogue of a UK county actually is.  Are they primarily organizational entities, and thus comparable to US counties, or are they primarily governmental, and thus comparable to US states?  My rather severely limited understanding of the UK political structure suggests that the county-county comparison is likely more valid than the county-state comparison, but I'll leave that to the experts to determine.

 

- Sergey

 

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[Sergey Grabkovsky]

The GeoChart isn't based on the postal system. It is based on a combination of the ISO hierarchy and Google Maps data. And while people don't normally address using England, Scotland, etc., I feel that those are just as useful for statistical purposes, and I don't believe that replacing the 'provinces' resolution that currently consists of those four areas with their counties is necessarily the right thing to do; especially after having this map of GB for so long.

It is not that a map can't be created using this data. In fact if you make the map yourself, you can use a GeoChart to display it. The issue here concerns the API. How should you, the user, request the map? As I said before, we can't just replace that GB 'provinces' resolution with the counties, because a) that's not how maps sees them, b) that's not how wikipedia sees them, and c) we've supported this API for too long to replace it.

Please understand that I'm not saying that the counties should/will not be included in the GeoChart. It is simply unclear *how* to actually do so. It's likely that we'll add a 'counties' resolution at a later date and include them in that resolution, but it is currently unclear if or when this will happen. Hypothetically speaking, if we were to provide maps of counties in that way, would that satisfy your need?

- Sergey

[Carlos Moreira]

«and would resolve as counties when the region is set to any of England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. »

I think this makes sense altough is not perfect.
we could set:

region:'ENG',
resolution:'provinces'

and this would display England divided by counties. And use the GB-BKM iso codes for the counties/provinces.

So many people would benefit from having access to the counties resolution in the UK countries.. :)

[Andrew Wilson]

That makes sense but UK instead of GB makes more sense because GB alone does not include Northern Ireland. The ‘UK’ encompasses England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland but Great Britain (GB) is usually referred to as ‘Great Britain & Northern Ireland (NI).

 

If I am misreading what you are saying then my apologies.

 

Andrew

 

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Subject: Re: [visualization-api] Geochart Data for UK Counties

 

«and would resolve as counties when the region is set to any of England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. »

- Sergey

 

- Sergey

 

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[Colin Spencer]

Is there any news on adding the UK counties yet? This is very important for my usage.

With the autonomy that is now given to the devolved governments of Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland it would make more sense to me to have these as top level countries now.

How are the autonomous regions of Spain handled? You have for instance

Spain

• Valencia Comunitat (autonomous region)
  

• Valencia (Province)
  
• Alicante (Province)
• Castelon (Province)

Surely this is a similar set-up to what is required for the UK?

I am looking forward to this being implemented sooner rather than later.

Colin

[Malik Usama Feroz]

Is there any news on adding the UK counties yet?

I want to use it asap.

[Sergey Grabkovsky]

We have been busy with other things and have not even started work on this. I do not have an estimate for when this will be ready, so if you really want this feature your best bet is probably to make your own maps. Another one of our users did this a while ago for Alabama counties, so if you would like to do something similar for UK counties, you are welcome to. You can follow Bluestreak2k5's journey here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-visualization-api/KVGu--jjUpk

- Sergey

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Malik Usama Feroz <usamaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

Is there any news on adding the UK counties yet?

I want to use it asap.

On Monday, August 12, 2013 8:36:39 PM UTC+5, Colin Spencer wrote:

Is there any news on adding the UK counties yet? This is very important for my usage.

With the autonomy that is now given to the devolved governments of Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland it would make more sense to me to have these as top level countries now.

How are the autonomous regions of Spain handled? You have for instance

Spain

• Valencia Comunitat (autonomous region)
  

• Valencia (Province)
  
• Alicante (Province)
• Castelon (Province)

Surely this is a similar set-up to what is required for the UK?

I am looking forward to this being implemented sooner rather than later.

Colin

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[Philippe Paquereau]

Dear Sergey,

I am wondering if this region region feature is now more considered, I actually wish I could make it work on french regions.

Is there any news ?

Thank you,

Philippe

Le vendredi 21 mars 2014 18:36:37 UTC+1, Sergey a écrit :

We have been busy with other things and have not even started work on this. I do not have an estimate for when this will be ready, so if you really want this feature your best bet is probably to make your own maps. Another one of our users did this a while ago for Alabama counties, so if you would like to do something similar for UK counties, you are welcome to. You can follow Bluestreak2k5's journey here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-visualization-api/KVGu--jjUpk

- Sergey

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Malik Usama Feroz <usamaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

Is there any news on adding the UK counties yet?

I want to use it asap.

On Monday, August 12, 2013 8:36:39 PM UTC+5, Colin Spencer wrote:

Is there any news on adding the UK counties yet? This is very important for my usage.

With the autonomy that is now given to the devolved governments of Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland it would make more sense to me to have these as top level countries now.

How are the autonomous regions of Spain handled? You have for instance

Spain

• Valencia Comunitat (autonomous region)
  

• Valencia (Province)
  
• Alicante (Province)
• Castelon (Province)

Surely this is a similar set-up to what is required for the UK?

I am looking forward to this being implemented sooner rather than later.

Colin

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[Ranjeet Bhatia]

Any progress on getting county level resolution for UK or ENG? Because of this we are planning to move off google maps to highmaps or D3. 

[Sergey Grabkovsky]

This is not currently in active development. We are currently prioritizing other projects and don't have any estimates for when this might be available. In the past, some users have made their own geographical data and used the GeoChart to present it. I can point you to the thread where I helped them with that, if you'd like to take the same path.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM Ranjeet Bhatia <rbh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Any progress on getting county level resolution for UK or ENG? Because of this we are planning to move off google maps to highmaps or D3. 

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[Mick Collopy]

Yes please provide us to the thread.  Thanks Sergey

On Thursday, 12 March 2015 04:09:16 UTC+11, Sergey wrote:

This is not currently in active development. We are currently prioritizing other projects and don't have any estimates for when this might be available. In the past, some users have made their own geographical data and used the GeoChart to present it. I can point you to the thread where I helped them with that, if you'd like to take the same path.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM Ranjeet Bhatia <rbh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Any progress on getting county level resolution for UK or ENG? Because of this we are planning to move off google maps to highmaps or D3. 

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[Sergey Grabkovsky]

Here is the thread I was referring to: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-visualization-api/KVGu--jjUpk

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 8:50 AM Mick Collopy <mi...@audienceware.com> wrote:

Yes please provide us to the thread.  Thanks Sergey

On Thursday, 12 March 2015 04:09:16 UTC+11, Sergey wrote:

This is not currently in active development. We are currently prioritizing other projects and don't have any estimates for when this might be available. In the past, some users have made their own geographical data and used the GeoChart to present it. I can point you to the thread where I helped them with that, if you'd like to take the same path.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM Ranjeet Bhatia <rbh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Any progress on getting county level resolution for UK or ENG? Because of this we are planning to move off google maps to highmaps or D3. 

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[Carmelle Morrison]

Hi There,

Does anyone know if this is now available for the UK in terms of city/region/province resolution?

Thanks,

Carmelle

On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 6:42:48 PM UTC+1, Sergey wrote:

Here is the thread I was referring to: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-visualization-api/KVGu--jjUpk

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 8:50 AM Mick Collopy <mi...@audienceware.com> wrote:

Yes please provide us to the thread.  Thanks Sergey

On Thursday, 12 March 2015 04:09:16 UTC+11, Sergey wrote:

This is not currently in active development. We are currently prioritizing other projects and don't have any estimates for when this might be available. In the past, some users have made their own geographical data and used the GeoChart to present it. I can point you to the thread where I helped them with that, if you'd like to take the same path.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM Ranjeet Bhatia <rbh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Any progress on getting county level resolution for UK or ENG? Because of this we are planning to move off google maps to highmaps or D3. 

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