Nobel prize in physics - you do not have enough photons / Justice

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Brad Guth

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Jun 28, 2011, 9:33:18 AM6/28/11
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Topic contributor Justice may be onto something, because we seem to be
perceiving stars that either putting out considerably more photons
than they should, or perhaps those stars are simply a whole lot closer
than we think.

At the radii of 100 ly gives us a projected photon sphere area of
1.2566e5 ly2

1 ly2 = 8.95016e31 m2 which then equals 8.95016e31 x 1.2566e5 =
11.24677e36 cm2

Supposedly the all-inclusive photon quantity available from our sun is
1e45/sec, however at least half of those photons have absolutely no
chance whatsoever of their ever being seen as leaving from the solar
farside, and of the other half available on the nearside are by in
large going off in every which way except towards us, whereas I’d kind
doubt that one in a trillion nearside photos are of those directed at
any given human eye.

This means that a star like our sun at 100 ly distance is going to
have 1e45/2/1e12 = .5e33/11.24677e36 = 4.4457e-5 photon/cm2 to offer
the human eye, which is actually quite an insufficient number for any
naked human eye to perceive. However, at least 90% of solar photons
are simply not even within the visual spectrum, so that leaves us even
worse off by perceiving only 4.4457e-6 photon/cm2/sec, and the human
eye needs roughly 10 photons/sec.

Moving this 1 Ms star out ten fold further, whereas at 1000 ly brings
the visual photon count down to 4.4457e-8 photon/cm2. Going another
10 fold further (10,000 ly) puts those same photons spread out to only
giving us 4.4457e-10 photon/cm2 which is going to require one
seriously large KECK mirror unless additional photons of the visual
spectrum either exist from the stellar photosphere and/or extra
photons are somehow getting created on the fly, so to speak.

So I kind of agree with our Mormon contributor “Justice”, even though
his faith-based potty mouth needs to get washed out with some kind of
nasty soap. Perhaps the mainstream status-quo of Einstein worshipers
and GOP/ZNR rednecks that only act/react exactly like Semites has some
further explaining to do, as to either how far them stars are away
from us, or as to how many original photons are actually available
from any given stellar photosphere.

I’m thinking it’s a little of both, whereas stars must create more
photons than our formulas suggest, plus otherwise them stars are
perhaps not quite as far away as we’ve been informed. Possible, as
photons unavoidably encounter particles along the way is how extra
photons are either generated or somehow reactivated and kind of
brought along for the ride, because otherwise as based upon the
available energy of a given star there’s just not enough original
photosphere photons to pull this off.

So how many photosphere photons are there to begin with (certainly not
limited to 1e45), and/or how are so many of those photons getting all
the way through to the human eye from that distance of 100 light years
unless aided by the technology of very large mirrors or perhaps by the
Ether matrix of space that’s in between?

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