Google Code Hosting

[sanforda...@gmail.com]

Hey folks,

I noticed in the Program Timeline [1] that students will be required
to upload code to code.google.com/hosting at least twice during the
program. I found this a little odd.

If the mentor organization already provides infrastructure for code
hosting, is it still required to upload the code to code.google.com/
hosting?

Would Google prefer that all development occurs in code.google.com/
hosting?

What would need to be uploaded? A patch? A modified version of the
actual project's trunk/HEAD?

Thanks,
Sandy

[1] http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60325&topic=10729

[fingolfin]

Yes, I was wondering about this, too. I couldn't find any other
reference to this in the FAQ, though... would be nice if somebody
could clarify this (e.g. people who participated last year -- was it
the same back then?).

Cheers,
Max

[Thomas Coppi]

No, we did not have to upload our code to google code, although that may have had a lot to do with the fact that google code wasn't even launched then :)

--
Thomas Coppi

[Christian Muise]

It wasn't the rule back then, but it was also just being released last summer. Some students chose to put their projects there as it made sense (i.e. writing a plugin for a project).

  Sometimes it doesn't make total sense - i.e. if you are doing general bug fixes. If you were working off a branch I guess you could upload that branch to google hosting, but I'm not sure what they had in mind with that requirement this year...

On 3/24/07, fingolfin <m...@quendi.de> wrote:

[Mohammed Gamal]

I guess you can upload code to both Google code hosting and wherever
the project hosts the code just to be in the safe side.

[znmeb]

That's not a very good idea in my humble opinion. There should be
*one* and *only* one SCM repository for a projects. As to whether it
should reside on Google Code or somewhere associated with the
organization is a question I leave for Google and the organization to
work out. If Google is looking for an opinion from me on the matter,
as a mentor for Ruby Central, my preference would be RubyForge, since
that's where most of the well-known Ruby projects live. There are some
important exceptions to that -- Ruby itself lives somewhere else, as I
recall.

On Mar 25, 1:33 am, "Mohammed Gamal" <m.gamal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess you can upload code to both Google code hosting and wherever
> the project hosts the code just to be in the safe side.
>

[Chris DiBona]

We expect the groups to develop where they develop, but legally the program requires that we have a copy of the code on a google owned repository. We do -not- want groups to somehow change how they do their work online, we do however require the student provide their work to google. It's a legal thing :-)

Chris

> > > could clarify this ( e.g. people who participated last year -- was it

> > > the same back then?).
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > Max

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[znmeb]

Ah ... OK ... for the project I would be mentoring, that's not a
problem as long as Google uses Subversion, preferably accessible (to
me) via SSH. Otherwise, I'll probably end up building a bridge of some
kind between a RubyForge SVN repository and Google's. Us Rubyists are
big fans of pragmatic version control, automated testing, etc. :)

> > > > > could clarify this (e.g. people who participated last year -- was it

> > > > > the same back then?).
>
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Max
>

> --
> Open Source Programs Manager, Google Inc.
> Google's Open Source program can be found athttp://code.google.com
> Personal Weblog:http://dibona.com

[fingolfin]

On 25 Mrz., 20:46, "Chris DiBona" <cdib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We expect the groups to develop where they develop, but legally the program
> requires that we have a copy of the code on a google owned repository. We do
> -not- want groups to somehow change how they do their work online, we do
> however require the student provide their work to google. It's a legal thing
> :-)

Thanks for the clarification, Chris!

Do I understand it correctly that it would be OK to simply upload the
current state to that repository just before the deadline?

Thanks,
Max

[Thomas Coppi]

On 3/25/07, znmeb <zzn...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah ... OK ... for the project I would be mentoring, that's not a
problem as long as Google uses Subversion, preferably accessible (to
me) via SSH. Otherwise, I'll probably end up building a bridge of some
kind between a RubyForge SVN repository and Google's. Us Rubyists are
big fans of pragmatic version control, automated testing, etc. :)

why not just post up a tarball on the google code site at the end of the program? 

[xamat]

Wait... a tarball of what? If the student is working on extending a
framework or in improving one particular aspect
of a large application the student code by itself may make no sense.
And uploading the whole project tarball is also silly as
only a tiny part of it all might be part of the student project.

> --
> Thomas Coppi

[Thomas Coppi]

On 3/25/07, xamat <xavier.a...@gmail.com> wrote:

Wait... a tarball of what? If the student is working on extending a
framework or in improving one particular aspect
of a large application the student code by itself may make no sense.
And uploading the whole project tarball is also silly as
only a tiny part of it all might be part of the student project.

well, trying to mirror your svn repo is equally as silly.

[Ionut Grigorescu]

Maybe a tarball of the patches ?

--

Ionut Grigorescu

[Leslie Hawthorn]

We're planning a Google Summer of Coder Patch Hall of Fame, so to speak.  Stay tuned, more to come later (like after students are accepted for this year later).

Cheers,
LH

[Catalin Hritcu]

Hi Chris,

On Mar 25, 8:46 pm, "Chris DiBona" <cdib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We expect the groups to develop where they develop, but legally the program
> requires that we have a copy of the code on a google owned repository.
>

Can't google just cache the whole web. Oh wait ... :)

Catalin

> > > > > could clarify this (e.g. people who participated last year -- was it

> > > > > the same back then?).
>
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Max
>

> --
> Open Source Programs Manager, Google Inc.

> Google's Open Source program can be found athttp://code.google.com
> Personal Weblog:http://dibona.com