Errors when submitting application at the last minute :(
Rich E.
I just wrote a very enthusiastic proposal after discussing with
members of the Natural User Interface group for a week about my long-
standing ideas. I tried submitting the application at the last minute
and received an error stating my url address was invalid. When I
tried again, application access was shut down (at exactly 17:00UTC, or
9:00pm here in Spain). Ouch!
I am only asking nicely to still accept my application. I am a broke
college student in a foreign country who speaks C++ and python much
better than Catalan (I am in Barcelona).
I have submitted the proposal to a possible mentor and the NUI user
forum, just in case you have mercy on a busy college student at the
end of a week of final exams.
:(
Rich Eakin
SMC Master Student, MTG-UPF
Paweł Sołyga
>
> Hi Google,
>
> I just wrote a very enthusiastic proposal after discussing with
> members of the Natural User Interface group for a week about my long-
> standing ideas. I tried submitting the application at the last minute
> and received an error stating my url address was invalid. When I
> tried again, application access was shut down (at exactly 17:00UTC, or
> 9:00pm here in Spain). Ouch!
replied you on NUI Group forum.
>
> I am only asking nicely to still accept my application. I am a broke
> college student in a foreign country who speaks C++ and python much
> better than Catalan (I am in Barcelona).
>
> I have submitted the proposal to a possible mentor and the NUI user
> forum, just in case you have mercy on a busy college student at the
> end of a week of final exams.
submit at the last minute.
I think there is nothing we can do in that situation. I'm sorry.
Cheers,
Pawel Solyga
shashank
is inactive".Please help.What should I do?I have sent the proposal to
a possible mentor.
Devendra
Your request must be considered because finish time was 1900 UTC
Lets hope every thing will be fine
best luck
Rich E
nothing that can be done? I don't understand the problem, if it is a
good application.
I realize that application submission has been open for a week now,
but this happens to be finals week for me. Some things have to take
precedence, as I hope a mentoring program could understand. I did not
purposefully submit the application at the last minute, I merely tried
squeezing it in among all the other work i have to deal with at the
moment.
1900UTC time is 9:00pm here. The first submission I attempted was at
8:55 (according to my spanish clock), but after dealing with problems
on the application form it was exactly 9:00 before I could try to
submit it again.
Its a shame that things are as inflexible as they are, where a minute
makes the difference between acceptance or no acceptance.
Rich
Egidijus Jankauskas
application. If you couldn't find time to submit your application
earlier, that is your problem and there is no one to blame but yourself.
LH (Leslie Hawthorn)
going to take it post deadline. I realize this is going to be very
disappointing for some of you. However, you had 12 days to submit your
application and many many students did manage to submit their
applications on time. It is not fair to anyone to give folks who
didn't get their application in on time extra time/chances to submit
their application. There is also no way to verify that you actually
experienced an error, etc. Bottom line - 1 minute should not make the
difference in your application, because waiting until 1 minutes (or 5
minutes) before the deadline is taking a pretty big chance: what if
your internet fails, what happens when your time doesn't match the
system time clock, etc.
If you didn't get your application in on time but are tremendously
passionate about your idea, go ahead and execute on your proposal. You
look that much more attractive as a future GSoC student, as a
potential employee when seeking work as a software engineer, etc. You
will just need to complete this work outside of Google Summer of Code.
Cheers,
LH
--
Leslie Hawthorn
Program Manager - Open Source
Google Inc.
http://code.google.com/opensource/
I blog here:
http://google-opensource.blogspot.com - http://www.hawthornlandings.org
vijayendra pratap
pedm
I was wondering if it would be possible to review the application late
so long as the receiving organization is okay with it. I realize that
you might be bound on this and am not going to push you once you say
one way or the other, however, I too feel I have invested a lot into
this application. I have spent the entire application time talking
with wordpress core developers, and really feel this work could be
beneficial. In the end, I too missed the google application deadline
by very little time. However, I had sent my application to developers
for feedback, and thought we had at last worked everything out.
If you would like the email of one of the developers, I would be glad
to give it to you.
Thank you for your time. Either way, I will respect your decision.
Pat
Shubhanjan
even i faced a similar problem and couldnt submit even though i was
tryin frm 1500 utc..........it jst said page is inactive
its sucha bad luck dat d afta wrkin so hard we couldnt even submit our
applications
On Apr 4, 1:22 am, vijayendra pratap <pratapvijayen...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> hit it and see if that page lists anything or if there is no such link
>
> name.
>
> I don't know this is a bug or what, but it works as of now.
>
>
>
> > For more than 3000 students, 12 days were enough to submit an
> > application. If you couldn't find time to submit your application
> > earlier, that is your problem and there is no one to blame but yourself.
>
> > On 3 Apr 2009, at 20:51, Rich E wrote:
>
> > > It was one minute (or probably less than that) late. Why is there
> > > nothing that can be done? I don't understand the problem, if it is a
> > > good application.
>
> > > I realize that application submission has been open for a week now,
> > > but this happens to be finals week for me. Some things have to take
> > > precedence, as I hope a mentoring program could understand. I did not
> > > purposefully submit the application at the last minute, I merely tried
> > > squeezing it in among all the other work i have to deal with at the
> > > moment.
>
> > > 1900UTC time is 9:00pm here. The first submission I attempted was at
> > > 8:55 (according to my spanish clock), but after dealing with problems
> > > on the application form it was exactly 9:00 before I could try to
> > > submit it again.
>
> > > Its a shame that things are as inflexible as they are, where a minute
> > > makes the difference between acceptance or no acceptance.
>
> > > Rich
>
> > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Paweł Sołyga
Leslie Hawthorn
Hi Leslie
I was wondering if it would be possible to review the application late
so long as the receiving organization is okay with it. I realize that
you might be bound on this and am not going to push you once you say
one way or the other, however, I too feel I have invested a lot into
this application. I have spent the entire application time talking
with wordpress core developers, and really feel this work could be
beneficial. In the end, I too missed the google application deadline
by very little time. However, I had sent my application to developers
for feedback, and thought we had at last worked everything out.
If you would like the email of one of the developers, I would be glad
to give it to you.
Thank you for your time. Either way, I will respect your decision.
Pat
Sorry, no. An applicaiton to Google Summer of Code consists of entering a proposal online via http://socghop.appspot.com by the deadline which was about 2 hours ago, 19:00 UTC.
If you did not get your application into the system by the deadline, we will not accept it late. This would not be fair to the many of the other students who did get their applications in on time.
As I said previously, you are welcome to work on your project proposal outside of Google Summer of Code. I am sure your would-be mentors would be happy to have your help.
Cheers,
LH
Maxim Khitrov
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:50 PM, pedm <Pat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Leslie
>>
>> I was wondering if it would be possible to review the application late
>> so long as the receiving organization is okay with it. I realize that
>> you might be bound on this and am not going to push you once you say
>> one way or the other, however, I too feel I have invested a lot into
>> this application. I have spent the entire application time talking
>> with wordpress core developers, and really feel this work could be
>> beneficial. In the end, I too missed the google application deadline
>> by very little time. However, I had sent my application to developers
>> for feedback, and thought we had at last worked everything out.
>>
>> If you would like the email of one of the developers, I would be glad
>> to give it to you.
>>
>> Thank you for your time. Either way, I will respect your decision.
>> Pat
>
> Sorry, no. An applicaiton to Google Summer of Code consists of entering a
> proposal online via http://socghop.appspot.com by the deadline which was
> about 2 hours ago, 19:00 UTC.
>
> If you did not get your application into the system by the deadline, we will
> not accept it late. This would not be fair to the many of the other students
> who did get their applications in on time.
Hello Leslie,
I'm not a student in SoC this year, so this does not affect me. Just
thought I'd give you something to think about in regard to this
situation (which, as you know, happens every year).
Suppose you're driving on a highway at 56 mph and the speed limit is
55. You get pulled over by a cop who writes you a speeding ticket for
1 mph over the limit. Now suppose that you're driving on the same
highway at 66 mph and the same thing happens. Where I live, 10 mph
over the limit is usually not a problem, and here you're given a
ticket for 11 mph over the limit. The speed limit is the same, but
would you be as upset with the officer in the second case as in the
first (the assumption is that driving at 55 and 65 mph in the two
respective cases would not have resulted in a ticket)?
The point of the analogy is that this is psychology problem. There
needs to be a time limit on when the applications are due. But I would
guarantee you that if you configured the system to accept proposals
for an extra 10 or 15 minutes after the published cutoff time, you
would have fewer students upset about not getting their proposals in
on time. I would also disagree with your assertion that this is
somehow unfair to other students. Move the end time back by one hour
if you think that the extra few minutes at the end will play a
significant part in the selection process, but allow for that margin
of error.
I'm not arguing that these students did the right thing by waiting
till the last minute. I'm not arguing against having a hard deadline.
I'm also not suggesting that you handle the proposals differently this
year. I do, however, think that for future summer of code programs you
should consider the human factors when configuring your system. A
student would be less upset about not getting their proposal in at
19:15 UTC than they are when the clock reads 19:00. You, in turn,
would not be stuck defending an arbitrary deadline, since a generous
margin of error was provided after the published time.
- Max
Ellen Ko
I understand the point you are trying to get across, but the truth is a deadline is a deadline, and our deadline has been public for quite some time. I know that some people are disappointed, but I think we owe it to the students who were able to submit their applications in on time to uphold the deadline. I hope the students who tried to apply at the very last minute and had problems will prepare better in the future.
I believe this topic is thoroughly exhausted at this point, and since our efforts are now focused on the student selection process, we will not be responding to more emails about late applications.
Best Regards,
Ellen
Sergiu Dumitriu
applications ASAP. I also asked our students to submit early and
update later on. A deadline is a deadline, and this one was announced
a long time ago. We're living in the age of the editable web, not that
of written tests where you can't turn the paper in early.
GSoC is a learning program, and learning to respect deadlines is also
a valuable lesson. A tough one, but necessary IMHO.
Sergiu@XWiki
Rich E
also have conference papers due at the same time?
And again I bring up my point, for the sake of ranting, that if the
project is good and benificial to the community, why not accept it one
minute late (in fact I tried to submit mine exactly at 17:00, the
second attempt at least)?
I already know the answer, I am just ranting. Google is too big of a
corporation to ask something as simple as 'can you accept an
application 1 minute late'. Besides, they have 3000 other
applications, what do they care. It is the open source applications
that loose out from this, not Google.
And if you are wondering why I didn't write the application at a much
earlier date, it is because the original project I wished to code was
for a program that didn't get accepted by Google for 2 years in a row
now, Pure Data (in my opinion, an organization much more deserving/in
need of grants than most well-paid programs that were accepted). So, I
had to conceive and write a new proposal in a week (finals week).
regards,
Rich
Serabe
> And if you are wondering why I didn't write the application at a much
> earlier date, it is because the original project I wished to code was
> for a program that didn't get accepted by Google for 2 years in a row
> now, Pure Data (in my opinion, an organization much more deserving/in
> need of grants than most well-paid programs that were accepted). So, I
> had to conceive and write a new proposal in a week (finals week).
I don't get this. Accepted mentoring organizations were announced on
March 18. Proposals deadline, April 3. A week, 7 days. At least for
me.
Cheers,
Serabe
Chris DiBona
indeed take it one minute late, or 2 or 20,000,, but we don't think it
is good for SoC to do so. Why? In the past when we've been flexible
around deadlines, we just increased the number of people who were
turned down by the mentors. I'm not saying you would have been, but
when people deliver at the last second, that is indicative not of
scrappy, seat of your pants, brilliance, but of a lack of the ability
to plan their time or deliver good quality submissions.
This is also a reflection of the fact that even if you discount the
last 24 hours of submissions, we will often have more than enough
quality applicants to make SoC work. Again, not meaning this post
personally, but it is worth understanding what we know in the
aggregate over the last 4 years.
Chris
Open Source Programs Manager, Google Inc.
Google's Open Source program can be found at http://code.google.com
Personal Weblog: http://dibona.com
David Anderson
>
> How about the students who are in the middle of finals week, and who
> also have conference papers due at the same time?
>
> And again I bring up my point, for the sake of ranting, that if the
> project is good and benificial to the community, why not accept it one
> minute late (in fact I tried to submit mine exactly at 17:00, the
> second attempt at least)?
Because then other people will want us to accept applications that are
2 minutes late, and then 3 minutes late, and then 1 hour late, then 1
day late. By recurrence, your proposed change eliminates the concept
of deadline and requires Google to accept applications indefinitely.
Your proposed program never halts.
It also prevents mentoring orgs from organizing themselves to review
applications, since they never know when the brilliant but terminally
disorganized will finally get round to submitting their world-changing
idea. Again, the coding phase would never begin in this case, since
nobody would ever be in a position to say "Right, that's it, we're
done".
Overall, casting aside the termination problem, you are proposing that
the two parties who invest the most in this program, Google in
finances and mentoring organizations in man-hours, adapt themselves to
the schedule that you, the party receiving the attention, mentoring
and money, would prefer. I'm sure you now see that this is somewhat
unbalanced.
> I already know the answer, I am just ranting. Google is too big of a
> corporation to ask something as simple as 'can you accept an
> application 1 minute late'. Besides, they have 3000 other
> applications, what do they care. It is the open source applications
> that loose out from this, not Google.
You are now insulting the very real people who are running this
program. People who really drive it are less than a dozen, and I can
assure you from knowing them personally that they are neither soulless
nor unthinking machines. I'm sure that the "big corporation"
stereotype was fun to roll off the keyboard, but you are simply
misinformed and incorrect. By belittling the work of the few people
who make this program tick, you are just being an asshole. Stop it.
I'm sure that you're pissed off that you missed the deadline. However,
please realize that it is nobody's fault but your own. This whole
program can not and will not adapt to the individual schedules of
thousands of people. If you were unable to adapt your own schedule,
then too bad. Thousands of others somehow muddled through. They may
even get selected for their troubles.
> And if you are wondering why I didn't write the application at a much
> earlier date, it is because the original project I wished to code was
> for a program that didn't get accepted by Google for 2 years in a row
> now, Pure Data (in my opinion, an organization much more deserving/in
> need of grants than most well-paid programs that were accepted). So, I
> had to conceive and write a new proposal in a week (finals week).
There were 16 days to come up with an application after the accepted
orgs were announced, not a week. This still doesn't change anything to
the fact that nobody is to blame here but yourself. It's just too easy
to randomly attribute blame to other people, and I'm sure it feels
good, but it's simply misrepresenting reality.
Ranting about it after the facts in the way that you did just makes
you sound like an asshole. Your situation will not change as a result
of the bile you poured into that email, and rather than attempt to
constructively improve the imperfection you perceives, you just
decided to take a stab at everything and everyone. I do not know of a
mentoring org that would want to work with you, given that this is how
you respond to the world not meeting your private expectations.
> regards,
Please disable automatic signatures and/or reflex typing when you
don't mean it. You clearly didn't from the tone of the email.
Goodbye,
- Dave
Rich E
> 2 minutes late, and then 3 minutes late, and then 1 hour late, then 1
> day late. By recurrence, your proposed change eliminates the concept
> of deadline and requires Google to accept applications indefinitely.
> Your proposed program never halts.
website to turn off an hour late? I don't see a problem with this.
> It also prevents mentoring orgs from organizing themselves to review
> applications, since they never know when the brilliant but terminally
> disorganized will finally get round to submitting their world-changing
> idea. Again, the coding phase would never begin in this case, since
> nobody would ever be in a position to say "Right, that's it, we're
> done".
have accepted my application even though it was a minute late.
> Overall, casting aside the termination problem, you are proposing that
> the two parties who invest the most in this program, Google in
> finances and mentoring organizations in man-hours, adapt themselves to
> the schedule that you, the party receiving the attention, mentoring
> and money, would prefer. I'm sure you now see that this is somewhat
> unbalanced.
>> I already know the answer, I am just ranting. Google is too big of a
>> corporation to ask something as simple as 'can you accept an
>> application 1 minute late'. Besides, they have 3000 other
>> applications, what do they care. It is the open source applications
>> that loose out from this, not Google.
>
> You are now insulting the very real people who are running this
> program. People who really drive it are less than a dozen, and I can
> assure you from knowing them personally that they are neither soulless
> nor unthinking machines. I'm sure that the "big corporation"
> stereotype was fun to roll off the keyboard, but you are simply
> misinformed and incorrect. By belittling the work of the few people
> who make this program tick, you are just being an asshole. Stop it.
personal opinions. That is my right, no? You do not have a right to
call me names. But thank you so much for investing your emotions in
this debate we have here, i'm glad it isn't a computer-generated
response like I expected.
> There were 16 days to come up with an application after the accepted
> orgs were announced, not a week. This still doesn't change anything to
> the fact that nobody is to blame here but yourself. It's just too easy
> to randomly attribute blame to other people, and I'm sure it feels
> good, but it's simply misrepresenting reality.
apply to large corporations in order to pay the rent, to tell you the
truth. But this is just a debate, please don't be personally
offended.
> Ranting about it after the facts in the way that you did just makes
> you sound like an asshole.
> Your situation will not change as a result
> of the bile you poured into that email, and rather than attempt to
> constructively improve the imperfection you perceives, you just
> decided to take a stab at everything and everyone. I do not know of a
> mentoring org that would want to work with you, given that this is how
> you respond to the world not meeting your private expectations.
Rich
David Anderson
>
>> Because then other people will want us to accept applications that are
>> 2 minutes late, and then 3 minutes late, and then 1 hour late, then 1
>> day late. By recurrence, your proposed change eliminates the concept
>> of deadline and requires Google to accept applications indefinitely.
>> Your proposed program never halts.
>
> So why not set the automated, soulless computer controlling the
> website to turn off an hour late? I don't see a problem with this.
never-ending, and has been demonstrated in past years when there were
extensions. No turn-off time is ever adequate, because it's always one
second too early for someone. Why not just accept that the
documentation actually means it when it says that the deadline is
19:00 UTC ?
>> It also prevents mentoring orgs from organizing themselves to review
>> applications, since they never know when the brilliant but terminally
>> disorganized will finally get round to submitting their world-changing
>> idea. Again, the coding phase would never begin in this case, since
>> nobody would ever be in a position to say "Right, that's it, we're
>> done".
>
> Why not let the mentoring org decide? I think in my case they would
> have accepted my application even though it was a minute late.
be honest. As Chris said, there isn't much in it for the orgs in the
last instants of the window, so I don't see why they would care about
going even beyond that. If pushed far enough, it would also mess up
statistics, slot allocations, and generally multiply the complexity of
the program.
But hey, who knows.
>> Overall, casting aside the termination problem, you are proposing that
>> the two parties who invest the most in this program, Google in
>> finances and mentoring organizations in man-hours, adapt themselves to
>> the schedule that you, the party receiving the attention, mentoring
>> and money, would prefer. I'm sure you now see that this is somewhat
>> unbalanced.
>
>
>>> I already know the answer, I am just ranting. Google is too big of a
>>> corporation to ask something as simple as 'can you accept an
>>> application 1 minute late'. Besides, they have 3000 other
>>> applications, what do they care. It is the open source applications
>>> that loose out from this, not Google.
>>
>> You are now insulting the very real people who are running this
>> program. People who really drive it are less than a dozen, and I can
>> assure you from knowing them personally that they are neither soulless
>> nor unthinking machines. I'm sure that the "big corporation"
>> stereotype was fun to roll off the keyboard, but you are simply
>> misinformed and incorrect. By belittling the work of the few people
>> who make this program tick, you are just being an asshole. Stop it.
>
> I am debating, not calling people vulgar names because of their
> personal opinions. That is my right, no? You do not have a right to
> call me names. But thank you so much for investing your emotions in
> this debate we have here, i'm glad it isn't a computer-generated
> response like I expected.
insulting. I responded in kind.
>> There were 16 days to come up with an application after the accepted
>> orgs were announced, not a week. This still doesn't change anything to
>> the fact that nobody is to blame here but yourself. It's just too easy
>> to randomly attribute blame to other people, and I'm sure it feels
>> good, but it's simply misrepresenting reality.
>
> It doesn't feel good to be a broke open-source programmer who has to
> apply to large corporations in order to pay the rent, to tell you the
> truth. But this is just a debate, please don't be personally
> offended.
>> Ranting about it after the facts in the way that you did just makes
>> you sound like an asshole.
>
> You have to say it twice? Calm down....
at your attitude, not anger. I will in fact stop, since it is becoming
clear that I am wasting my time. I can only congratulate others who
have more patience with you (unless they're ignoring you already).
>> Your situation will not change as a result
>> of the bile you poured into that email, and rather than attempt to
>> constructively improve the imperfection you perceives, you just
>> decided to take a stab at everything and everyone. I do not know of a
>> mentoring org that would want to work with you, given that this is how
>> you respond to the world not meeting your private expectations.
>
> My idea was world-changing, by the way :)
Tong Zou
Tong
Rich E
really interested in my proposal. Maybe I am asking for an exception,
but it is one that will lead to good things for all parties involved.
Please keep in mind that I was submitting the application AT the
deadline and the server didn't accept this. I wasn't late by more
than about 2 minutes, and in fact tried to submit it on time but
experienced an error.
regards,
Rich
Shantanu Tushar Jha
Shantanu Tushar (GMT +0530)
http://www.shantanutushar.com
Nandeep Mali
This point is invalid if Rich E did submit his App before the dead
line. I don't see why everyone should chastise him for being a last
minute person. If everyone says that there is no "1 second after" then
why not "1 second before"? If it's your opinion that deadlines are
"strict" then why not observe them both ways. A server failure is not
his fault IMO. Does the web app have any logs? Has this even been
looked into? Or is it just not worth it?
@Rich E
If you do say that your application is as revolutionary as it is, has
the mentoring Org appealed to Google Directly? Has it served a
purpose? I am not sure if you are the only one beating your own
bandwagon or not. But I believe the community should step out of the
shadows.
@Google
I do not see what's the problem if the organization really wants the
application through? Isn't it about the mentoring organizations
benefit? Or am I missing out on the mission statement here? If I am
then I apologize. But I thought this was a platform for open source
contribution from new and hard working alike. If the Organization
needs an application through then why not give them that? If the
argument here is that it is unfair to student who applied for that
Organization before this person then it stands invalid as the Org may
not need any of the proposal. Tough break for them. The whole system
does stand unfair to so many who are not selected. In the end the
proposals that are through are selected with a lot of consideration.
I expect most replies to be: "rules are rules" or it's that "not
everyone will be satisfied by the system". As visible, I am stating
this to all parties involved. Had to get my opinion across.
----
Nandeep
Sam Lai
understanding of how the web works, you will know that it takes time
for requests to go through and be processed, and sometimes packets are
lost and requests are rejected.
You should also know that it is very difficult and often not feasible
to create a web app with constantly fast response times, even under a
sudden heavy load. Even extremely time sensitive sites like eBay
haven't gotten this to be perfect.
EBay mitigates the problem a bit by publishing the eBay time so you
can't argue about things like this; maybe that's what Google needs.
If you're not a web person, assuming you're a uni student, which means
you're probably using the horrid monster that Blackboard is, you
should've learnt all this already anyway when trying to submit
assignments at the last second.
It sucks, but get used to it - even technological marvels like the
Internet and the geniuses at Google can't bend time.
Sent from my mobile device
Sam Moffatt
>
> @All people who say Deadlines are Deadlines:
> This point is invalid if Rich E did submit his App before the dead
> line. I don't see why everyone should chastise him for being a last
> minute person. If everyone says that there is no "1 second after" then
> why not "1 second before"? If it's your opinion that deadlines are
> "strict" then why not observe them both ways. A server failure is not
> his fault IMO. Does the web app have any logs? Has this even been
> looked into? Or is it just not worth it?
This reminds me of the CMA server we have at our university which
usually goes down during assessment periods because a whole swag of
people are doing the assessments at the last minute which is more load
than the server can handle at a single given point. It is really
pointless to throw more hardware at the problem since most of the time
the system is underused. It stands to reason that if you're doing it
at 2 minutes prior there are probably a whole swag of people and
you're really not giving yourself much time for the unexpected which
has lead to old man Murphy striking again.
Perhaps we need another motto for SoC proposals:
Submit early, edit often.
(submit often implies multiple submissions which isn't what I really
want to convey)
Sam Moffatt
http://pasamio.id.au
Leslie Hawthorn
Rich E
success, but hopefully we can work on the project some how in the
future. Because, after all, it is world changing :)
Sorry to those who were upset by my request and reasoning.
regards,
Rich
Matthew Wilkes
On 14 Apr 2009, at 17:21, Rich E wrote:
> The NUI group did try to appeal without
> success, but hopefully we can work on the project some how in the
> future.
I'd like to put a slightly different POV across. OSPO aren't bending
the rules, no matter what orgs ask for. This is a Good Thing, it
takes pressure off orgs desperate for contributions and wanting to get
the most out of SoC from being the bad guys when we need to. It's not
appropriate to accept late proposals, it's simply not fair, but there
is a pressure on mentoring orgs if they know there are good late
proposals.
I think more people would be more uncomfortable if this wasn't a hard-
and-fast rule.
Matt
judy wawira
chat but did not make it?vlc??send me a note on judyw...@gmail.com
thanks
Shaz
proposal submission because I did it on time but human psychology is
very correctly judged by Max. Further more giving margin of error is
not in justice to others as well. if you increase the time by an hour
or more then this could be cosidered as injustice and clearly
softening of deadline. but giving a margin of error for 5 to 10 min
seems absolutely fine.
Any ways its decesion of GSoC team, and I respect their decesions, but
giving comments is every one's right.
Regards,
Shaza Hanif
On Apr 3, 11:38 pm, Maxim Khitrov <mkhit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Leslie Hawthorn <lho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:50 PM, pedm <Pat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Hi Leslie
>
> >> I was wondering if it would be possible to review the application late
> >> so long as the receiving organization is okay with it. I realize that
> >> you might be bound on this and am not going to push you once you say
> >> one way or the other, however, I too feel I have invested a lot into
> >> this application. I have spent the entire application time talking
> >> with wordpress core developers, and really feel this work could be
> >> beneficial. In the end, I too missed the google application deadline
> >> by very little time. However, I had sent my application to developers
> >> for feedback, and thought we had at last worked everything out.
>
> >> If you would like the email of one of the developers, I would be glad
> >> to give it to you.
>
> >> Thank you for your time. Either way, I will respect your decision.
> >> Pat
>
> > Sorry, no. An applicaiton to Google Summer of Code consists of entering a
>
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David Anderson
Dear all: please reread what Leslie said 2 days ago.
- Dave