Subsutitution

[neu]

I am currently taking part in a GSOC project, but for family reasons,
may not have time to complete it. If my mentoring organization is okay
with the substitution, is it possible for me to hand off the project
to a friend of mine who is also familiar with the project?
Thanks, Peter

[Leslie Hawthorn]

Hi Peter,
Hi Peter,

Your friend won't be able to participate in GSOC in your place.
However, if s/he wants to work on the project anyway, that's
wonderful.

Cheers,
LH

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[sam]

I f your in search for volenteers for taking up the task u left...
Then i am game... I would be more than happy to take it up... Kindly
let me know more about it...

my email id is sameer....@gmail.com

On Jun 8, 7:42 pm, "Leslie Hawthorn" <lhawth...@google.com> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> Hi Peter,
>

[David Anderson]

You cannot participate in SoC instead of Peter, as Leslie just said.
Please let's not have 200 people asking if they can take the project
over, there is no point.

- Dave

[Jeremy McAnally]

I believe the keyword there was "volunteer." :)

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[David Anderson]

It is more than possible to volunteer to get money and a tshirt. I was
just making it clear that the volunteering is just for the work, not
the money.

[sam]

well i wud like to make it clear... I am volunteering to help some one
get his work completed and I assure will not claim the money but I
will be kind of you people if T-Shirt can be offered to me... It cool
sporting a Google tshirt... so ... no other greed attached... Jus
wanna do something worthy and wanna get some recognition and
experience... Hope i am clear at my stand...

On Jun 9, 8:34 am, "David Anderson" <d...@natulte.net> wrote:
> It is more than possible to volunteer to get money and a tshirt. I was
> just making it clear that the volunteering is just for the work, not
> the money.
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Jeremy McAnally
>

> <jeremymcana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I believe the keyword there was "volunteer." :)
>
> > --Jeremy
>

> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:23 AM, David Anderson <d...@natulte.net> wrote:
>
> >> You cannot participate in SoC instead of Peter, as Leslie just said.
> >> Please let's not have 200 people asking if they can take the project
> >> over, there is no point.
>
> >> - Dave
>

> >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:05 AM, sam <sameer.kasi2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I f your in search for volenteers for taking up the task u left...
> >>> Then i am game... I would be more than happy to take it up... Kindly
> >>> let me know more about it...
>

> >>> my email id is sameer.kasi2...@gmail.com

[Leslie Hawthorn]

Honestly, you are better off applying next year.

Best,
LH

[Matthew Wilkes]

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On Heisei 0020-06-11, at 101710BST, sam wrote:

> Well thanks... well i think since most of the google officials reply
> in these threads i feel its a right place to ask a few questions...

I hope none of the googlers feel I'm treading on their toes, but...

> Instead of posting a new thread and spamming inbox of thousands of
> users around the globe i better ask it here..

It still does go to all these people.

> well would like to know
> opportunities in google... I mean i have to do a project as a part of
> my curriculum either in a firm or with some reasearch insight.. I have
> a few project ideas... I tried to apply in GSOC with one of those...
> but may be cuz i prepared the application in last minute it was nt up
> to mark and because of some reasons could get selected.. I would like
> to know opportunities in google... i mean is there any blog or
> newsletter i can subscribe...

Search for it. Seriously, google has a great student section on their
website, it'll tell you everything you need to know. Emailing a
mailing list for one of google's projects is absolutely not the right
place to ask these things, you're not only wasting your fellow
students time but the googlers too. Large companies have a hiring
procedure for a reason, broadcasting a request for work to some
employees instead of taking the time to look it up for yourself and
talk to the right people reflects very badly on you and will get you
nowhere.

> I can fwd my resume to any of you if you
> want to have a look into it.. i assure wonnt let you down if given a
> chance...

Would you ever just search for people that work in a company you want
to work for and email them your CV independently? Just because some
googlers are more visible here due to their SoC work does not mean
that you can talk to them about your career options. They're people
trying to do their job the same as everyone else, leave them in peace.

> Sorry i am a bit informal in my requests... ;)

If you know you're doing wrong, don't apologise, don't do it.

Matt
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[Leslie Hawthorn]

I have to agree with Matthew - if you are interested in jobs within Google, your best bet is to check our jobs pages and apply to those that suit your interests.

http://www.google.com/jobs

Cheers,
LH

[Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu]

LH, I thought Google had nothing against participating in teams, as
long as only one student is officially listed and only one payment is
made. If this is still true, I don't see why his friend couldn't work
in his place, provided Google continues to issue payments to the same
person.

[sam]

Thanx LH and MW for your kind guidance and straight opinion... :)
Well i will continue participating in GSoc Forum without spoiling the
spirit... And assure the things will not be repeated...

[David Anderson]

Participation as a team is explicitely forbidden in the FAQ.

- Dave

> >
>

[Leslie Hawthorn]

Thanks Dave, that's correct.

More here:

http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_group_apply

[abdullah abdul Khadir]

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Leslie Hawthorn <lhaw...@google.com> wrote:

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 6:30 AM, David Anderson <da...@natulte.net> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu
> <eduard....@linux360.ro> wrote:
>>
>> LH, I thought Google had nothing against participating in teams, as
>> long as only one student is officially listed and only one payment is
>> made. If this is still true, I don't see why his friend couldn't work
>> in his place, provided Google continues to issue payments to the same
>> person.
>
> Participation as a team is explicitely forbidden in the FAQ.

Thanks Dave, that's correct.

More here:

http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_group_apply

Cheers,
LH

Hello,
            
         http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_group_apply

10. Can a group apply for and work on a single proposal?

No, only an individual may work on a given project. Of course, students should feel free to collaborate with others to accomplish their project goals.

            Would i be too imprudent if i were to ask the degree to which "students should feel free to collaborate with others" ?

        

[Chris DiBona]

The idea is that students work with projects, and the degree that
those projects represent other student work is up to the organization.
We explicitly do no want a student to think that subcontracting out
the work that they have proposed to do is okay.

The base idea of working together with a team is satisfied through
your work for the larger ope n source project, not through
dependencies on other soc students. I gotta say that I've found group
work oriented instruction to be at best a lazy way of teaching and at
worst a haven for scoundrels and mediocrity and something I explicitly
didn't want for the SoC.

Maybe I was embittered to the subject after 2 years in a group work
oreiented masters program, but even before then, I was suspicious. SoC
is a time for you, the programmer, to show what you are made of. Good
luck!

Chris

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