How to map Simpangs & Jalans In Brunei

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Dave

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Apr 1, 2012, 9:59:00 PM4/1/12
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Hi all,

I have a question that impacts almost every address in the Country of Brunei Darussalam, and possibly in Malaysia, too.

Street Addresses in Brunei are different from the normal I've seen in the US and Europe.

Very often a building will be not on a main road (Jalan) but on side street that connects to a Jalan (Simpang). You can not express an accurate location without including both the Simpang and the Jalan.

Here's a simple example:

#721
Simpang 18
Jalan Tungku
City
Region Postal Code
Brunei Darussalam

"Simpang 18" simply denotes which numbered side-street off "Jalan Tungku" that Building #721 is on.

Simpang numbers in Brunei are only unique in the context of each Jalan. There could be a Simpang 18 on every Jalan. Much like building numbers in the US which are only unique in the context of the Street they are on.

On top of this, Simpang numbers are hierarchical. For example, the Address of the US Embassy in Brunei is:

Simpang 336-52-16-9
Jalan Kabangsaan
Bandar Seri Begawan, BE 4115

Which means, the Embassy is located on side-road 9, off of side-road 16, off of side-road 52 off of side-road 336 off of Jalan Kebangsan. Which is easy to see by looking at this: http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=10&ll=4.921862,114.957848&spn=0.017808,0.023346&t=h&z=16&lyt=large_map

So, how do you properly enter this information into the Map Maker address fields to provide the full address?

Thanks,

Dave


rjhintz

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Apr 2, 2012, 12:48:51 AM4/2/12
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See also addresses in urban Japan. Similar, but less complex, in urban Thailand.

Probably need to develop the use cases and then find an address scheme to accommodate them.
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Rich

Chaitanya Sri

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Apr 13, 2012, 1:04:21 AM4/13/12
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Hi Dave & Rich,

Apologies for the delay in getting back to you.
Let us take the examples of addresses you gave -

Simpang 336-52-16-9
Jalan Kabangsaan
Bandar Seri Begawan, BE 4115

#721
Simpang 18
Jalan Tungku

To have this full address shown, you can add "Simpang 336-52-16-9" in the Street# field [if the building has number say, #721 then put it as, "#721, Simpang 18" in Street# field"] and "Jalan Kabangsaan" in the Street name [or "Jalan Tungku" for the other example]
Rest of them will be in the appropriate fields. Let me know if you need anything else.

Thanks,
Chaitanya Sri

momers

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May 16, 2012, 7:12:06 AM5/16/12
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I've spent my years in Brunei but i never knew that....maybe cuz Map Maker didn't exist then!

I tried mapping here once but after these years i don't remember the place exactly though I have the directions and way points in my mind :)
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