Names for Parking Garages

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Saikrishna Arcot

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Nov 1, 2012, 8:53:28 PM11/1/12
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Is it fine if a parking garage building is given a name, like here?

Kev Hardie

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Nov 2, 2012, 4:43:26 PM11/2/12
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http://support.google.com/mapmaker/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1096113&topic=1094958&ctx=topic#sncsnc

Naming of Parking Lots: Provide a name only when a parking lot is referred to by a specific name. If you are unsure, please leave it unnamed.

If a parking lot belongs to a certain listing/business, but is located outside its boundary, you can name the parking lot using the name of the business. However, if the parking lot is within the boundary of the business, you may leave it as unnamed.

Looks like it would be permissible if there is a specific name for the carpark building

Flash

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Nov 2, 2012, 4:50:17 PM11/2/12
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That's for parking lots.  Parking garages are not to be defined as parking lots, but rather are to be defined as buildings.  I didn't see the edit that was being proposed; but I would think that the name was likely the name of the business contained within the building, and thus should follow the rules for buildings regarding naming them (ie. the business gets a point POI that is attached to the building).

Kev Hardie

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Nov 2, 2012, 6:28:24 PM11/2/12
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Similar rules apply for buildings
Name

Name the place as it's known in the real world. The correct name ensures that the place is easily searchable and is labeled appropriately on the map.

You can also specify the Type and Language of the name to add detail and to ensure it's displayed appropriately on the map.

Non-commercial features, such as buildings, apartment buildings, monuments and more may not have specific names and can be left unnamed. For commercial and business features, however, providing the correct name is mandatory.


The car park building in question has no proposed edit but appears to be part of the JC Penney campus.

As it is on campus, the option under parking lots (offsite) to call it the JC Penney Parking Building is not available regardless of whether it is or isn't considered a parking lot.

If there is no specific name for the building, then both the parking lots and building rules would suggest to leave the building unnamed.

If there is a specific name for the building, eg JC Penney Parking Building A, then both the parking and building rules would allow the building to be named.




Saikrishna Arcot

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Nov 3, 2012, 8:26:09 AM11/3/12
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I guess the edit got auto-denied, but the names for this and the one southeast of it was something like North Parking Garage and South Parking Garage.

Flash

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Nov 3, 2012, 11:33:54 AM11/3/12
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If those were official, I'd find those more acceptable; but we'd need proof of it being official.  I'd actually prefer that to "JC Penny Parking Building A", as that is a company name, JC Penny could move out of the buildings at any time.

Mara Winslow

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Nov 3, 2012, 11:24:19 PM11/3/12
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Sai and Flash,

This discussion is moderately confusing, especially when redoing an old parking lot edit (name of the building is right at the top of the edit).

Since the dread Google Automated Building POI Transformer has been through here all the polygons have turned into Buildings (not POI's), often with confusing addresses.

It looks as if ABPOIT wants the garage to be a generic building with a POI that explains what it really is.

I've been trying to re-do a private garage built into a hill to get across that each of the two floors has it's own differing exit and it doesn't have a roof on the second floor.

I left the POI (with a primary name since it has one) and put the height back for the polygon.  I'm waiting to see if it will fly.


On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Flash via General Map Maker <google-mapmaker+noreply-APn2wQcd...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
If those were official, I'd find those more acceptable; but we'd need proof of it being official.  I'd actually prefer that to "JC Penny Parking Building A", as that is a company name, JC Penny could move out of the buildings at any time.

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Saikrishna Arcot

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Nov 4, 2012, 10:25:31 AM11/4/12
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In my area, the addresses were kept on both the building and the new POI, since any POI at that building will presumably have the same address (or the same base address, at least).

I have seen some buildings that actually have a name, but wasn't/haven't been separated by the bot. I guess it's only separating business features with a building (those that have the phone/website fields) or business categories (including E/POI).


On Saturday, November 3, 2012 10:25:04 PM UTC-5, Mara Winslow wrote:
Sai and Flash,

This discussion is moderately confusing, especially when redoing an old parking lot edit (name of the building is right at the top of the edit).

Since the dread Google Automated Building POI Transformer has been through here all the polygons have turned into Buildings (not POI's), often with confusing addresses.

It looks as if ABPOIT wants the garage to be a generic building with a POI that explains what it really is.

I've been trying to re-do a private garage built into a hill to get across that each of the two floors has it's own differing exit and it doesn't have a roof on the second floor.

I left the POI (with a primary name since it has one) and put the height back for the polygon.  I'm waiting to see if it will fly.


Flash

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Nov 4, 2012, 11:34:13 AM11/4/12
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I think it was supposed to only separate it if it had business info.  So if just the name and address was filled in, it is likely a name; but if it had a phone number and/or website then it was likely a business and needed to be separated.

Kev Hardie

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Nov 8, 2012, 7:06:15 PM11/8/12
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But official building names are frequently boring, sequential and unimaginative. One campus I work on has the buildings named as Building 1, Building 2, etc and this is what is shown on their campus map etc and what they are referred to as internally. If they have the organisation name prepended for external communications then the official name for mapmaker should probably the full organisation name too.
And surely if JC Penney move out, the same rules would apply as for a POI, eg Kodak Theater?

Flash

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Nov 8, 2012, 10:01:14 PM11/8/12
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It is not our job to make the names of the buildings "exciting".  We are reflecting reality.  And the campuses that number their buildings usually then tell you to go to building #xx, so it is useful information.

The organizations can still be listed, but they need to be point POIs attached to the building.

I'm not sure what is the rule of which you speak.  The Kodak Theater should be a point POI attached to the building.
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