Cities and Districts in Puerto Rico (Serious Issue)

[davsot]

In Puerto Rico, all the cities and districts need updating ASAP. Most of the issue regards localities being classified as cities and vice versa. Some cities don't exist or were deleted (such as Mayagüez, PR). A small issue is also the population. One of our PR members has taken it upon himself to edit all the districts, but I'm not sure how well that is going and he didn't really discuss specifics about the manner in which it was being solved. 

Before fixing all the roads and all sorts of other inconsistencies within Puerto Rico, the cities and districts are the most important thing to look into. I will greately appreciate any help anyone can provide. 

Thanks!

[I MAP]

Try reporting the same in your local forum and join hands with the local mappers to correct it.

[davsot]

Hi, thanks for the response. 

We already did what you suggested. All the edits have been submitted but no one has cared to approve any of them. That is the problem. We need Reviewers to approve all the district and locality changes. 

[I MAP]

Great !

Please post all the pending links or all the profile links which have those pending edits here " https://sites.google.com/site/mapyourworldcommunity/discuss?place=forum/map-moderating" and all the avid mappers will approve them including me.

I MAP

[davsot]

I posted in the Requests forum, but it seems the problem is too big for them. They can't fix the problem I mentioned. 

The first problem in a long list of problems is the following. 

There are some issues with the cities and districts of Puerto Rico. 

Let's start with Santurce and see how that works. 

Santurce is a Locality, and while it has been approved, it doesn't show up as an option in the drop-down menu within edits. 

http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&q=santurce,+pr&gw=39&ll=18.450382,-66.065254&spn=0.024588,0.044203&z=15&vpid=1310924326883&t=h&iwloc=0_0&fid=10089029860524514321:2450558793616315916

Same thing happens with the locality Río Piedras

http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&q=rio+piedras,+pr&gw=39&ll=18.402298,-66.049891&spn=0.024595,0.044203&z=15&vpid=1310924512316&t=h&iwloc=0_0&fid=10089022491582473745:17196372990980980373

Please look into this issue. 

[I MAP]

Rendering of political features in a manner that it appears in the location info drop down might take a few days .

It will be great if someone from Google gives us the exact timeline

[davsot]

I hope someone at Google takes notice. First time here, not sure how effective this forum is. 

[I MAP]

Nowadays , we have observed that many responses are coming in that too , quite quickly.

Rest assured, this will be answered as well.

Hope my guess is correct :)

[Abhishek]

Hi Davsot,

Ideally, the name of "Santurce" should appear as an option in the drop down menu for the edits marked within the Locality. We are looking into why its not being shown. Will keep you posted.

For "Río Piedras", please edit the boundaries of the feature to include the exact area so that the features marked within its correct boundary can have its name in the drop down menu.

Regards,
Abhishek 

[David Soto]

Ok, thanks for the reply.

I have added the polygon for Río Piedras. I will add some more localities that may need updating. 

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[Abhishek]

Hi davsot,

Santurce is showing up as an option when I tried adding a feature within this Locality.
Please check and let us know if it's working for you as well.

Regards,
Abhishek 

[davsot]

Thanks Abhishek. The issue has been resolved and I have since not encountered another problem with adding localities. Thanks!

[davsot]

Total lack of coordination. Maybe it is just me. 

Google Reviewer Bryan G. has told me that there was an apparent discussion to mantain the classification of districts and wards of Puerto Rico (locally known as barrios) to Minor Civil Divisions from Locality. Frustrating after being thanked by so many people for changing the classification. 

Can someone tell me if this is true?

[Ramu]

Hi Davsot,

Can you please post the link where you had the communication from the reviewer so that we can investigate.

Thanks,
Ram Mohan  

[David Soto]

Here is the link to the "discussion". 

http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=55&editids=eBHggPFvXATYULl6U6&iwloc=0_0&t=h&dtab=overview

[davsot]

Local User Roca says:

"Reason: The edit could be misleading

The category for Barrio Portugues Urbano should be "Minor Civil Division". The reason is that the municipality of Ponce is made up of barrios (As shown in this map from the municipal goverment: http://www.visitaaponce.com/descubreloBarrios.aspx). Some of the barrios of the municipality happen to fall within the urban area of the city. This does not change the fact that it is the municipality, and not the city, that is made up of barrios. Ponce, like every other municipality in Puerto Rico is, in fact, both a city and a municipality (as explained here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponce,_Puerto_Rico . In Puerto Rico this "mutual non-exclusivity" happens to be the case (namely, that every municipality has a seat at a town or city of the same name). It was not always the case that the city/town of the municipality where the only seat of power. When the municipality of Ponce was first created, each of its barrios had a mayor who reported to the mayor of the municipality. In fact, there was no such thing as a city mayor during those times: there were barrio mayors and there was a mayor for the municipality. Technically speaking there isn't a city mayor Ponce even today. The mayor is a municipal mayor. You can read more about this here: http://www.elsuralavista.com/periodico/?p=32312 I would, thus, support categorizing Portugues Urbano as a Minor Civil Division. It should not be categorized as a Locality, that might be OK for a feature such as "Ponce Pueblo." Neighborhoods, such as Belgica, Nueva Vida, La Rambla, Jurutungo, Calzada, Real Anon, Villa del Carmen, Punto Oro, Residencial Rosaly, and Residencial Gandara, etc, could then be categorized as "sub-locality/neighboorhood". Regards, Roca."

In response to your question Roca: Let's get back to the simple stuff, the reason why I classified it as Locality. 

Locality and Sub-Locality are Map Maker's way of organizing districts and sub-districts. It is simply the way this product was developed. These are not political divisions, they are just divisions of a city. The same way, in PR we use "barrios" as another word for a district. 

A few definitions

District: http://goo.gl/eAUrW

Locality: http://goo.gl/jsSB4

Municipality: http://goo.gl/18JyA

In the United States, "municipality" is usually understood as a city, town, village or other local government unit, formed by municipal charter from the state as a municipal corporation.[8] In a state law context, some U.S. state codes define "municipality" wider, from the state itself to any political subdivisions.

Also, why am I so hesitant to classify this as a Minor Civil Division? Because when one is entering buildings, parks, churches, schools into MapMaker, we are asked to include Locality and Sub-Locality, but not Minor Civil Division. Using Locality to classify the Barrios of Puerto Rico will integrate information that Minor Civil Division would not permit.