Anyway to make a Direction Name always show on a road, instead of the initial

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Thomas Gill

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Aug 4, 2011, 4:54:43 PM8/4/11
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I have a couple of roads in my area that have directions in their proper names, then directions for addresses.  For example, East Harbor Road, which is along the East side of the harbor.  The official name is South East Harbor Road.  I'm wondering if there was some way to make sure that the minimum name "East Harbor Road" appears on the map, and the road doesn't show as SE Harbor Road.

Any ideas?

TEG

djboge

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Aug 4, 2011, 5:04:20 PM8/4/11
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Good question. Not sure if there's anything you can do about it. There is a street here called "South Meadows" (that's the whole street name) and it always shows up on Maps as "S Meadows."

Mxx

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Aug 4, 2011, 8:00:27 PM8/4/11
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It might be inapproriate, but perhaps write it as "East-Harbor Road" or "South-East Harbor Road"? Hopefully that will break GM's detection of "East" and it won't abbreviate it?

Thomas Gill

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Aug 5, 2011, 3:03:01 AM8/5/11
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I will attempt that on another road (as East Harbor Road is up for review after I adjusted the geometry).  Thanks.

Jeff

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Aug 5, 2011, 5:40:52 PM8/5/11
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I think this is actually a bug, but if you make any edits to the name or type of an existing road name, the full name of the road will appear on the map afterward.

I MAP

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Aug 6, 2011, 1:58:30 AM8/6/11
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I have observed in many roads, that even if the full name is given, the abbreviated form appears.
It looks like a typical too behavior instead of a bug.

IndianaRed

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Aug 6, 2011, 7:43:56 AM8/6/11
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If you use the segment selection tool to edit the name, it will abbreviate.

If you don't, and edit it like a normal feature, it doesn't abbreviate.

At least in my experience...

I MAP

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Aug 6, 2011, 9:40:29 AM8/6/11
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Great. I will try that and see if it works for me as well

Jeff

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Aug 6, 2011, 5:53:57 PM8/6/11
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That's exactly what I was referring to in my post. I personally consider this to be a bug, and this thread discusses it in more detail.

Note that if you do use the second method, the road's suffix (like "Road", "Drive", etc.) will no longer be abbreviated either.

Ramu

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Aug 11, 2011, 12:07:18 AM8/11/11
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Hi all,

Frequently used terms and commonly known terminology is abbreviated by the tool itself (i.e. SE for South East). This is mainly done to avoid congestion in the display of the map and to reduce redundant information.

Thanks,
Ram Mohan 

djboge

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Aug 11, 2011, 1:33:39 AM8/11/11
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Makes sense to me - there's your answer. :)

Eraqu22

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Feb 23, 2012, 4:31:53 PM2/23/12
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Ram,
   What would the best way to name streets like, South Street and North Street, without them showing up as S St and N St?  Because they are not S and N Streets, which is a distinct possibility.  They are South Street and North Street.  Thanks for your help.

Eric

Nuclear Moose

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Feb 23, 2012, 5:13:23 PM2/23/12
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Eraque22 is exactly right. In the city of Saskatoon SK, Canada, an entire set of avenues go from Avenue A through to Avenue P and so on.

eastwest

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Feb 23, 2012, 5:29:25 PM2/23/12
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But that policy doesn't always make sense. I ran across a road near one of my edits named "West Point" displayed as "W. Point" -- but I'm pretty sure the road is named after the US Military Academy and not as the western half of Point Rd.

Dendros

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Feb 23, 2012, 6:41:47 PM2/23/12
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I've only found one to fix it, but it changes the name subtly.   It was an irritation of my own when I lived in New Hampshire. So I've tinkered a bit.  If you the road is named 'West' Road instead of West Road, it shows the entire name, but, then you have quotation marks in the name.

I agree though, it is a bug.  The coding should look at the words up to Boulevard, Road, Lane, Circle, etc, as one entity, not truncating them.   But if you were to enter the names that way in a program, you would almost certainly have to have a separate field for the type of road (Boulevard, Road, Lane, etc..)
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Dendros

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Feb 23, 2012, 6:48:16 PM2/23/12
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Hi Ramu,
  That's understandable, but in cases like shown here (http://g.co/maps/bqfdm).  The roads "name" is South Road.  But Google Maps shows it as "S Road". That is incorrect.   In this area, you will commonly see "North Road" and "East Road" show up as N Road and E Road.  (which is incorrect!)

(had to correct my post)

Flash

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Feb 23, 2012, 9:25:35 PM2/23/12
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It is the same in my city; the main road down the middle of the city is named South Fraser Way.  The "South" does not refer to portion of it, there is no "North Fraser Way" or "Fraser Way"; but rather we are south of the Fraser River and on the south side of the Fraser Valley.  The full name of the road is "South Fraser".  It appears like that in drop downs for POIs, but displays as S. Fraser Way on the map.  Some people see that and purposely write "S. Fraser Way" in as the street for new POIs, rather than choosing from the dropdown (or perhaps they are from Places), and when I review them I have to ask them to put the proper name in for the street.

Thomas Gill

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Feb 23, 2012, 10:00:28 PM2/23/12
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I've also noticed this with South Rd. in the Detroit Suburbs, which
currently renders as S Rd. One would hope that there is some override
than can be put into place when there are issues like this.

On a side note, this actually reminded me of a RL issue I had when
living in Lake Orion, MI. I lived on N. Shore Ave. but everyone
including the Post Office always called it Northshore Ave., even
though all the street signs said N Shore Ave. It was not on the North
shore of a lake, but the West shore, and Shore Ave had a Southern
section signed S Shore Ave, but the Post Office called it S Northshore
Ave. So even in real life there are errors like this.

TEG

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Geoffrey Perez

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Feb 23, 2012, 10:08:55 PM2/23/12
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Don't forget South Park Avenue in San Francisco. http://goo.gl/XT8b6 It's named after the eponymous South Park located in the middle of the street, not some extension of some mythical Park Avenue.

Willy Hrachovina

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Feb 25, 2012, 8:31:03 PM2/25/12
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I have a few other examples for you, that are really tricky. First, in Petersburg, Virginia: South Boulevard, with a West part and an East part. Fortunately they are rendered properly on the map, but it could be a real mess if not done right.

There's also a street in Richmond, Virginia called "The Boulevard", with a North and South section. The North part only renders as "N Blvd", while the South part renders "S Boulevard" which is correct.

There is another street in nearby Colonial Heights also called "The Boulevard", and it renders properly.

eastwest

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Feb 26, 2012, 1:03:04 PM2/26/12
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Not directions, but here's another example of abbreviations gone wrong -- http://goo.gl/P9flZ -- in the map view, it shows N. St. Phillips Ln, but the "full" name shows N. Street Phillips Lane. Never mind that "N" doesn't get expanded to "north" (which is unusual), but I'm pretty sure "St." here means "Saint," not "Street."

Thomas Gill

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Feb 26, 2012, 1:07:37 PM2/26/12
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Actually, I just looked at that entry, and whoever labeled it
originally put in "N Street Philips Lane". I verified with another
source and adjusted it to be "North Saint Philips Lane", we'll see how
it adjusts.

TEG

Chaitanya Sri

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Mar 2, 2012, 1:46:58 AM3/2/12
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Hi all,

Valid points here. Please vote for this issue here & do mention your concerns with the links for a better investigation.

Thanks for the great discussion :-)
Chaitanya Sri
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