Automatic Approval.

[Chrazini]

What does it take to get some automaticly approved edits. I have been mapping for some time now, and its going soooo slow, because I always have to wait days, sometimes weeks for an edit to be approved, and then I can continue.

All I want is to edit my own little city, and make it perfect by adding every single feature it has. This takes years. I've beleive I've made myself pretty trustworthy. Does anyone know a trick or something?

[Wthrwyz]

Auto-approval does eventually happen for road and trail features. It takes time and lots of approved edits, and you gain the ability to publish higher priority roads incrementally. Exactly when this will occur for you depends on how many edits you've made to each type of feature - the system categorizes the things being edited and will assign trust to each category individually.

For points, buildings, and boundaries, I do not believe that auto-approval is ever granted except to Google employees.

[Drix]

Gosh I have over 600 edits of almost the same type of linear features in the same geographic region but I left for a while for school, and now I come back after the new Review "overhaul" and seems every little changes on the object properties need a review. Really minimizing my motivation here..

[Wthrwyz]

You do lose trust over times of inactivity, but your trust should come back up pretty quickly. I took about an 8 month hiatus and ran into the same thing - I got hit with moderation even for terminal road edits. All it took was a couple approvals to put me back where I was.

[Flash]

That sounds quite reasonable; the guidelines are in a constant state of flux, this ensures that someone checks to make sure you are up to date on any changes before your let loose again.

HOWEVER, be aware that now GRs just push through edits and fix them after; they do not educate at all.  So take a look at your edits to see if there were changes made by the approvers, just to see if there is something new or something you forgot.  I give this warning to everyone, but especially if it's taking you a while to regain your trust, it could be that they are pushing them through but marking that they are not completely accurate.

[Drix]

Have to admit I am guilty of being like that when it come to reviewing...(so I don't do much of that). I find that objectively it's easier (ie quicker) to change it later if you can get it autoapproved than to wait for the mapper to undo and having to reapprove again. Kind of unethical sounding but I favor that way to get as much information as possible if I am the advanced mapper and can make it accurate more efficiently, while still give the newb some starting trust. I am kind of the opposite when mapping though; I take responsibility for my edit and don't really wait for reviewer to correct my edits. If I don't "think" I know what am I doing on one I'll just undo/skip and move on to other. Occasionally I do come back and check but considering most of the edit I've made are really small background maintenance sort of thing I am not expecting any disagreement. Hopefully I can move on to some bigger "meaningful edits" as I do see quite a few that need to do around where I'm mapping.

[Flash]

This is an actual process change by the GRs.  It means any new power mappers will be completely uneducated as to the guidelines, but will have massive amounts of trust because all the edits they did wrong will still be approved.

[Jables]

That sounds like a real problem Flash.  I assume that auto approval trust is not built equally when a GR has to follow up with corrections.

At what point does a new power mapper (600 edits), say "why don't I have automatic approval?" or "oops, I just realize I've been doing that wrong for XXX # of edits."   I think they should offer GR feedback to power users after they are advanced and invested in improving their neighborhood(s).  It would make better use of there time for feedback. 

New power mappers seem to come to forum for an advanced education in guidelines.  Has anyone noticed an increase in forum help and review requests since GR review help policy changed?  

[Flash]

They've actually been doing it as an experiment in certain regions, including mine, before it became an all encompassing policy.  I have several mappers in my area that constantly do bad edits, and have the trust that they hardly ever go into review.  When RERs occasionally catch a pending review from them and try to coach them, the results are poor.  It is understandable; we are trying to tell them they don't know what they are doing when the actual Google employees approve of all their edits.

[Leo Zhang]

Hoping I'm not actually one of those mapper...though I do have to admit I sometime reverse my own edit as I don't drive so don't really know what the Local rule for the road. Case in point is uncontrolled intersection and U-turn, for starter.  I don't want the map to have incorrect info as some people don't have much "common sense" and in the most extreme may lead to civil dispute like that Central America boundary dispute fiasco. But I also don't want to flood forum with many "dumb" question (not to mention having the time) so I try to think beforehand which ones I shouldn't bother with, though I will still take a look and if there's something that's just blatantly wrong I'll edit them into the system default option if I can't come to a conclusion myself; hopefully nobody relies on that too much. Bleh.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Flash via General Map Maker <google-mapmaker+noreply-APn2wQcd...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

They've actually been doing it as an experiment in certain regions, including mine, before it became an all encompassing policy.  I have several mappers in my area that constantly do bad edits, and have the trust that they hardly ever go into review.  When RERs occasionally catch a pending review from them and try to coach them, the results are poor.  It is understandable; we are trying to tell them they don't know what they are doing when the actual Google employees approve of all their edits.

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