What's Wrong With Google Finance?

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Hurricane

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Oct 25, 2009, 9:02:22 PM10/25/09
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What happened to the Google Finance, the most recent top 3 discussion
board topics would show up when you select a specific stock and now
they don't?? What's up Google???

Agrajag

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Oct 26, 2009, 12:16:48 PM10/26/09
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Agree - really annoying to try to keep track / keep current now. If anything, I would prefer to increase it to the last 5 threads discussed.

micro

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Oct 26, 2009, 6:19:46 PM10/26/09
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I am having the exact same issue.

mehoss

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Oct 27, 2009, 9:04:06 AM10/27/09
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I hope it gets fixxed, I like the old way. Now the discussions are
worthless.

MrAlarming

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Oct 27, 2009, 9:31:04 AM10/27/09
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I though it was my computer, glad to see it's not. BUT!! Very
displeased with this change. Google, please go back!!!

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mehoss

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Oct 27, 2009, 11:27:17 AM10/27/09
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I changed the subject so Google might get the idea from the title.
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mehoss

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Oct 27, 2009, 2:40:38 PM10/27/09
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Another thread states that Googel is appending a "NDA" to the end of
some symbols. Perhaps this means "No Discussions Allowed"?? Perhaps
they had complaints from people about what was said in some
discussions. I know that the DJI discussions were always anti-Obama.
For some strange reason 17 percent of america was hangin out on that
discussion board. Perhaps that is what happened. Anyway...BRING IT
BACK TO LIFE OH GREAT GOOG!!!!
Only reason that I hang out here instead on YAHOO is because of the
discussions.

On Oct 27, 9:31 am, MrAlarming <mralarm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Google Finance Guide

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Oct 27, 2009, 6:14:20 PM10/27/09
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Hi Finance Users,

We made a slight change to the 'discussions' section that disables the
'preview' ability on the company pages.
The discussion boards can still be accessed from the 'View all
discussions >>' link in the same place. Nothing else has changed.

This gives users the option to visit discussions or not.

Thanks for the feedback,
Laura
Google Finance Guide

Henry

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Oct 27, 2009, 6:38:11 PM10/27/09
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OK, I can handle that (i dont like it but..) BUT please please please SORT them so that when someone adds to an existing thread, it is put on top.  If that is not done the spammers win...cuz they keep a'spamin.  Please .
I wish we could set it up in our profile to turn them back on, then you could hide them from the frail people.


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jach...@aol.com

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Oct 27, 2009, 10:44:49 PM10/27/09
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The new format sucks, I wont use google until it is fixed
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Agrajag

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Oct 27, 2009, 6:46:38 PM10/27/09
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Clearly you do not use those boards yourself - this makes it very difficult to follow flow of conversation, particularly when the subjects can be changed.

What would made sense would be the ability to toggle the 3 or 5 most recently updated threads, and have it toggled off by default on the main stock page if you're so against people discussing stocks - THAT would give users the option to visit discussions or not.

You still have no way of blocking spammers, nor have any form of moderation or responsibility, and now this!

Man, Google are getting worse and worse at this sort of thing. They got rich on selling an idea of transparency and freedom, now they're capitalizing on it while doing the opposite.

Guess I'm off to Yahoo again.

jach...@aol.com

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Oct 27, 2009, 10:46:47 PM10/27/09
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if people dont want to view the discussion all they have to do is not
look at it or move it to the bottom of the screen. You guys are trying
to fix something that isnt broke

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RoryTate

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Oct 27, 2009, 10:49:01 PM10/27/09
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It is a huge change! One loses access to the bulk of the data while
fiddling about to see if there are discussions worth joining. Since
when is the disruption of information Google's purpose.
If some were offended by preview content, couldn't they report obscene
material.
I'm inclined to agree that slowing down member communication seems to
be the intention here.
I cannot imagine why Google would do this.
Users could just have easily minimized the discussion feature if it
bothered them.

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Kevin Miller

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Oct 28, 2009, 1:59:50 AM10/28/09
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Laura,
 
I am sure I speak many users of google finance when I say that while we appreciate your intent, the change has crippled us. 
 
We use the "top three" format to quickly monitor the age of the last post and to "bump" a topic to the top when it is important to us.
 
With only three threads showing, we can easily follow the threads we want and let the "spam" posts move to the combined page.  (There is so much spam hitting these pages that the desired threads easily get lost in the mess.)
 
If we only have three threads showing, we don't have to try and remember the name of the thread we are following because they stay on the page, while the single posts, spam, or "pump posts" quickly move on to the "thread cemetery" page.
 
Besides making it easier to follow desired threads, the "top three" format allows us to have access to stock information simultaneously.  Any news or other stock information is on the same page and is easily accessed with only one "click" or page change if we need it.
 
But the best reason for returning the "top three" format is that nearly everyone follows multiple stocks.  If we are following threads on multiple stocks,  the "top three" format allows us to click on a ticker under "recent quotes", check to see if anyone has updated a thread, and quickly move on the the next stock if there are no new posts.  In your new format, we have to select the ticker, the select all threads, and attempt to find the thread we have been following.  If there are very many spam posts during the day, the thread we are following my be way down the list somewhere......... that is if you can remember the name of the thread or if no one has changed the name of the thread.  In either of those cases, the thread is lost.   Under the "top three" format, we can bump the desired threads and keep them current.
 
You may think I am exaggerating, or that we will "get used to it".  If so, I urge you to reconsider.  I haven't posted since Friday, and when I have been able to find the threads I had been following, no one is posting to them.  In fact, mostly what I see is spammer after spammer.  Granted, most of the threads I was following were social, but there were a couple that were financially important; a group of us have been sharing information in order to make better investment decisions.  The new format had severely damaged that capacity. 
 
If you won't return the "top three" format, would you please consider making "top three" an option?  Right now your format looks like this:
 
 

Evolution Fuels, Inc. discussions  View all discussions

Could you set the page like this:

Evolution Fuels, Inc. discussions  View all discussions/ View "Top Three" Format. 

In any, case we need some help, Laura.  The new format has seriously hampered our interaction on Google Finance.  There are people I trade posts with everyday that I haven't seen post since Friday.  For that matter, I haven't posted since Friday.  Sadly, I can't even ind the threads that we were sharing.  All I see is more spam and more stock pumpers.  I am sure that you guys had good intentions when you made the change, but the unintended consequences have been devastating.  Before, Google was much more user friendly that Yahoo, and the clientele was much better.  As it stand ccurrently, Yahoo is easier to work with.....though the users remain undesirable.

Bottom line, I am positive I speak for all of the people I usually interact with, and many - if not the majority - of everyone else  when I request that Google either change the format back or give us the option to return our individual pages with a toggle.

Kindest Regards,

Kevin Miller

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E. Pinto

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Oct 28, 2009, 2:48:38 PM10/28/09
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BRAVO!

--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Kevin Miller <jkmill...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kevin Miller <jkmill...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: What's Wrong With Google Finance?

Chad

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Oct 28, 2009, 2:30:11 PM10/28/09
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I completely agree with Kevin. The normal discussions I follow have
dried up. This really needs to be corrected.
> <http://www.google.com/groups/finance?cid=703006&hl=en>
>
> Could you set the page like this:
> Evolution Fuels, Inc. discussions  View all discussions/ View "Top Three"
> Format.  <http://www.google.com/groups/finance?cid=703006&hl=en>
>
> In any, case we need some help, Laura.  The new format has seriously
> hampered our interaction on Google Finance.  There are people I trade posts
> with everyday that I haven't seen post since Friday.  For that matter, I
> haven't posted since Friday.  Sadly, I can't even ind the threads that we
> were sharing.  All I see is more spam and more stock pumpers.  I am sure
> that you guys had good intentions when you made the change, but the
> unintended consequences have been devastating.  Before, Google was much more
> user friendly that Yahoo, and the clientele was much better.  As it stand
> ccurrently, Yahoo is easier to work with.....though the users remain
> undesirable.
>
> Bottom line, I am positive I speak for all of the people I usually interact
> with, and many - if not the majority - of everyone else  when I request that
> Google either change the format back or give us the option to return our
> individual pages with a toggle.
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Kevin Miller

mehoss

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Oct 29, 2009, 10:35:52 AM10/29/09
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Kevin stated it best!
Whatever issue you are "fixing", please do so with respect to the
people who take the discussions seriously.
Please don't just toss us out. We are probably your highest income
and biggest ticket purchasers demographic!
If you heed everything that Kevin suggests, we will all be happy.
If at the same time you could help the spam situation, that would be
icing on the cake, but us old timers have ways to deal with it
already.

Thanks for listening to us whine.
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RoryTate

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Oct 29, 2009, 11:14:59 AM10/29/09
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I guess, Chad, you missed the point. Obviously Google wants the
conversation to dry up. Yahoo page designers please read. Easy client
base up for grabs.

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The Car Guy

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Oct 29, 2009, 11:33:48 AM10/29/09
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Laura and Google team,
This small change you have made is terrible.

Please go back to the way you had it before.

I follow around 20 stocks and read/write to the posts quite
frequently.

Drilling down through 20 or so separate discussion groups looking for
your posts is so cumbersome it is hardly worth the effort.

This small change is a HUGE step backwards and doesn’t solve the spam
problem at all.

You are Google for God's sake; you have to have a better idea than
this.
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The Car Guy

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Oct 29, 2009, 11:36:33 AM10/29/09
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Laura and Google team,
This small change you have made is terrible.

Please go back to the way you had it before.

I follow around 20 stocks and read/write to the posts quite
frequently.

Drilling down through 20 or so separate discussion groups looking for
your posts is so cumbersome it is hardly worth the effort.

This small change is a HUGE step backwards and doesn’t solve the spam
problem at all.

You are Google for God's sake; you have to have a better idea than
this.


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Google Finance Guide

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Oct 29, 2009, 1:10:31 PM10/29/09
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We really appreciate all the feedback from you, and Kevin, for your
detailed response.
It's this kind of feedback that helps us take further steps to improve
the product. :]

We're currently taking many steps to improve the discussion boards-
It's a working progress while we focus on reducing spam and improving
the quality.

Thanks for your patience,
Laura

mehoss

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Nov 1, 2009, 10:41:49 AM11/1/09
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I would like to explain why I was a Yahoo to Google convert about a
year ago.
I like the recent quotes on the left instead of a Yahoo rolling ticker
on top.
I like that the recent quotes are actually real-time, Yahoo's are
delayed in the ticker.
I USED to like that discussions were easy to follow the real
conversations even though there was lots of spam, we knew how to get
around it.

While you guys are in there coding, it would be great if you could
add:
Additional recent quotes, if not too much load. Some of us like to
track more than 20 or so at a time.
Addtional recently updated discussions, instead of last 3, last 5
would be better,
One-Click spam "hide" link to "hide all postings from this user" for
my profile and during my session only. Perhaps use client-side
scripting for this.

The google individual stock pages look sparse now without the
discussions.

Thanks,
-

Kevin Miller

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Nov 2, 2009, 4:01:43 PM11/2/09
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Laura,

 

For all of those who have responded to you (for some reason they are coming to me as well), there are many more that have only complained on line.  We appreciate you guys trying to improve the board, but we humbly ask that you return our "top three" posts.  The use of Google boards has been diminished drastically as of late, and the only variable is Google removing our ability to monitor that threads we have been following.  If nothing else, could you please return that to the way it was as soon as you can?  I am certain that I speak of a large percentage of Google users when I ask that.  If you scan the boards, you will see comments like "I guess I'll go to Yahoo now".  I am sure that isn't what you intended.

 

Kindest regards,

Kevin Miller



Mazen Abboushi

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Nov 3, 2009, 5:24:00 PM11/3/09
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My recommendation is to switch to yahoo or AOL finance.
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