Group membership: is there a way to include non-delivery/suspended accounts in output?

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Dean Ransevycz

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Mar 15, 2017, 7:01:49 PM3/15/17
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Is there way of getting GAM to show suspended/non-delivery members in 'gam info group <group.name>' & 'gam print group-members group <group.name>'?  I can't see anything in the documentation & a similar question from 2015 is still unanswered. 

I have a situation at here where i have thousands of groups in domain_A with members from domain_B whose accounts may be suspended. There are corresponding groups in domain_B whose membership is up to date (suspended members removed). I need to be able to extract from the domain_A groups a list of suspended domain_B accounts still present, but the problems are that the gam reports for groups in domain_A don't print the suspended accounts & the user reports in domain_B don't contain the domain_A group memberships. Am i missing something here?

By way of example:
<jane.doe@domain_B> is suspended
When her account was suspended it was removed from <this.group@domain_B>
When her account was suspended it was marked "non-delivery" in <this.group@domain_A>, but not removed - these are the ones i'm trying to find so that i can implement a cleanup in our directory system.

Ross Scroggs

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Mar 16, 2017, 12:15:48 AM3/16/17
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Dean,

I need some clarification: you say "the gam reports for groups in domain_A don't print the suspended accounts"
Does that mean that when you say "gam print group-members group this.group@domain_A" jane.doe@domain_B is not listed?
Where do you observe this, in Gam or the admin console?: When her account was suspended it was marked "non-delivery" in <this.group@domain_A>

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Dean Ransevycz

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Thanks, Ross. I think you understand my problem well enough, but here's a more detailed example:
  1. Some time in the past these accounts were members of groups <scoobies@sunnydale> & <scoobies@hellmouth>: buffy@hellmouth, giles@hellmouth, willow@hellmouth, xander@hellmouth.
  2. Yesterday giles@hellmouth was suspended
  3. Today's group memberships for the <scoobies> groups is:
    1. <scoobies@hellmouth>: buffy@hellmouth (active), willow@hellmouth (active), xander@hellmouth (active)
    2. <scoobies@sunnydale>: buffy@hellmouth (active), giles@hellmouth (non-delivery), willow@hellmouth (active), xander@hellmouth (active)
  4. This is what i see in the groups service & admin console:
    1. <scoobies@hellmouth> membership: buffy@hellmouth, willow@hellmouth, xander@hellmouth
    2. <scoobies@sunnydale> membership: buffy@hellmouth, giles@hellmouth (non-delivery/suspended), willow@hellmouth, xander@hellmouth
  5. This is what i can get from either GAM query:
    1. <scoobies@hellmouth> membership: buffy@hellmouth, willow@hellmouth, xander@hellmouth
    2. <scoobies@sunnydale> membership: buffy@hellmouth, willow@hellmouth, xander@hellmouth
So what i'm trying to get GAM to report is all member of the group <scoobies@sunnydale>, the same as the groups service or admin console. 


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On 16 March 2017 at 15:15, Ross Scroggs <ross.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dean,

I need some clarification: you say "the gam reports for groups in domain_A don't print the suspended accounts"
Does that mean that when you say "gam print group-members group this.group@domain_A" jane.doe@domain_B is not listed?
Where do you observe this, in Gam or the admin console?: When her account was suspended it was marked "non-delivery" in <this.group@domain_A>

On Mar 15, 2017, at 4:01 PM, 'Dean Ransevycz' via GAM for G Suite <google-apps-manager@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Is there way of getting GAM to show suspended/non-delivery members in 'gam info group <group.name>' & 'gam print group-members group <group.name>'?  I can't see anything in the documentation & a similar question from 2015 is still unanswered. 

I have a situation at here where i have thousands of groups in domain_A with members from domain_B whose accounts may be suspended. There are corresponding groups in domain_B whose membership is up to date (suspended members removed). I need to be able to extract from the domain_A groups a list of suspended domain_B accounts still present, but the problems are that the gam reports for groups in domain_A don't print the suspended accounts & the user reports in domain_B don't contain the domain_A group memberships. Am i missing something here?

By way of example:
<jane.doe@domain_B> is suspended
When her account was suspended it was removed from <this.group@domain_B>
When her account was suspended it was marked "non-delivery" in <this.group@domain_A>, but not removed - these are the ones i'm trying to find so that i can implement a cleanup in our directory system.


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Dean Ransevycz

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Mar 21, 2017, 12:10:08 AM3/21/17
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Further clarification:
Is there a way of generating the report from <https://groups.google.com/a/[mydomain]/forum/?hl=en#!managemembers/[mygroup]/members/bouncing> in GAM?
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