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John Steele

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Feb 7, 2018, 9:16:06 AM2/7/18
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Hello,

I am trying to get away from Cloud print for all my Chromebooks and starting to setup printers using the direct printer setup method but I have over 150 Chromebooks, and I don't think giving out the parameters for a printer to be a good idea.  So my question is can I use GAM or GAMADV-X to install the printers on chromebooks or am I out of luck?  

Jay Lee

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Feb 7, 2018, 9:19:00 AM2/7/18
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There are no APIs for native printing this there's nothing for gam to do here. However you can push printers to users via the admin console:


On Wed, Feb 7, 2018, 9:16 AM John Steele <john....@ennis.k12.tx.us> wrote:
Hello,

I am trying to get away from Cloud print for all my Chromebooks and starting to setup printers using the direct printer setup method but I have over 150 Chromebooks, and I don't think giving out the parameters for a printer to be a good idea.  So my question is can I use GAM or GAMADV-X to install the printers on chromebooks or am I out of luck?  

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John Steele

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Feb 7, 2018, 12:44:14 PM2/7/18
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Excellent. Thanks.


On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 8:19:00 AM UTC-6, Jay Lee wrote:
There are no APIs for native printing this there's nothing for gam to do here. However you can push printers to users via the admin console:


On Wed, Feb 7, 2018, 9:16 AM John Steele <john....@ennis.k12.tx.us> wrote:
Hello,

I am trying to get away from Cloud print for all my Chromebooks and starting to setup printers using the direct printer setup method but I have over 150 Chromebooks, and I don't think giving out the parameters for a printer to be a good idea.  So my question is can I use GAM or GAMADV-X to install the printers on chromebooks or am I out of luck?  

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Sean McMahon

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Dec 13, 2019, 2:50:45 PM12/13/19
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Now that Cloud Printing's days are numbered, has anyone heard of any development on using GAM for managing native / network printers pushed on to an OU?
Thanks!
Sean

Jay Lee

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Dec 13, 2019, 2:54:00 PM12/13/19
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Managing them how? The admin console just pushes a small configuration to the Chrome OS client telling it printer IP and driver to use then the client talks directly to the printer. There's not much place for GAM to get involved.

Frankly that's a good thing, Naive Printing is a lot simpler path than Cloud Print which avoids a lot of the issues Cloud Print traditionally had.

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Jay Lee

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Dec 13, 2019, 2:56:24 PM12/13/19
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By the way, latest Chrome OS 79 release notes included this nugget which should make Native Printing work with most printers released in past few years now:

Remote configuration of driverless printers
Driverless printers are now supported from the Printer Management page in the Admin console. Administrators can now remotely assign printers that rely on auto discovery (using IPP to query the printer and set job attributes for the print job) to connect. Previously, only PPD based printers could be configured from the admin console.

McMahon, Sean

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Dec 13, 2019, 3:07:25 PM12/13/19
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Hi Jay, thanks for answering.

I totally agree that Cloud printing was a headache.  We only tried it for a short time and I hated rolling out something that was so unreliable and required nightly service restarts on our Windows print servers. It was "Forever in Beta".

The reason I was asking was that I saw that Gam could manage Cloud Printers, but I couldn't find any reference to it being able to manage native / network printers assigned to an OU.  -Was hoping Gam could quickly add a LIST of native printers to an OU.  In the meantime, I noticed that you can upload a csv of multiple printers to an OU, right in the Admin Console. Which might suffice for what we are looking for.

Thanks,

Sean McMahon   Boston Public Schools
 2300 Washington Street, Roxbury, 02119


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Ross Scroggs

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Dec 13, 2019, 3:32:41 PM12/13/19
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Sean,

Unfortunately, there is no Google API support for managing settings at the OU level, thus GAM can't help.
Uploading a CSV file of printers is your best bet.

Ross



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Unhappy Buckaroo

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Apr 1, 2020, 4:17:02 PM4/1/20
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Has anyone managed this yet? The admin console keeps telling my csv file (made from Google's template) is missing one or more required columns.

+KimNilsson

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Apr 3, 2020, 3:34:49 AM4/3/20
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Only way is telling Google Support about the problem, so they can fix the template, or tell you what's wrong with your file.

Penner, Andrew

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Apr 3, 2020, 10:28:18 AM4/3/20
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Ross and I did some experimenting with this, and if you're not specifying the driver exactly as it appears in Google's list when you manually add a printer, it won't work.

In this case, it was a Xerox D125 printer; I knew going in that they only had a driver for the D95, so my .csv file had "Xerox D95" in the driver field, and when that failed, "Xerox D95 Copier", which still failed. When you add the printer manually, the driver is listed as "Xerox D95 Copier/Printer".

You also need the "manufacturer" field, which in the printer details has an asterisk, so is a required field. The .csv template they provide does not include the header, and the instructions do not mention it. I'll be filing a case regarding that later today.
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Only way is telling Google Support about the problem, so they can fix the template, or tell you what's wrong with your file.

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Jay Lee

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Apr 3, 2020, 11:30:28 AM4/3/20
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I recommend using the Driverless config, it's WAAAY easier than matching up vendor models to printer drivers and should *Just Work* for most modern printers. Here's a CSV I just tested with and it worked well:

name [required],description,driverless [flag],model [required if not driverless],uri [required],allowed for user [flag],allowed for device [flag],allowed for managed guest session [flag]
b1,bee1,true,,ipp://192.168.86.1:631/ipp/print,true,true,true
b2,bee2,true,,ipp://192.168.86.2:631/ipp/print,true,true,true
b3,bee3,true,,ipp://192.168.86.3:631/ipp/print,true,true,true
b4,bee4,true,,ipp://192.168.86.4:631/ipp/print,true,true,true
b5,bee5,true,,ipp://192.168.86.5:631/ipp/print,true,true,true

Jay Lee


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Penner, Andrew

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Apr 3, 2020, 12:27:14 PM4/3/20
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Thanks Jay!
We may give that a try for some of our more common printers and see how it works.
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