Creating a domain alias: Service settings / Web address / Add new URL

[Richard]

Hello:

Please forgive yet another post about this. Perhaps it will motivate
the Google folks to clarify or fix it!

With help from this group and a little luck, I've finally achieved
this simple arrangement:

clublabs.com --> accesses "clblbs" on GAE
www.clublabs.com --> accesses "clblbs" on GAE

My goal right now is to achieve the same with ".net" tlds, ie:

clublabs.net --> accesses "clblbs" on GAE
www.clublabs.net --> accesses "clblbs" on GAE

I've successfully created and verified the domain alias "clublabs.net"
on the Google Apps/Domain settings/Domain names page (Note1).

I'm having trouble with "Add new URL" on the Google Apps/Service
settings/clblbs (App Engine) page (Note2). When I enter
"clublabs.net", then click "Add", I receive this message:

Should either be domain itself or a subdomain

I've run throught this many times, checked and re-checked my DNS setup
(Notes 3 & 4), etc, to the point of exhaustion, but am getting
nowhere. Google, can you please clarify, fix, or set me straight about
this?

Thank You,
Richard

Notes:
(1) www.google.com/a/cpanel/clublabs.com/DomainSettingsDomains
(2) www.google.com/a/cpanel/clublabs.com/AppEngineServiceSettings?appId=clblbs
(3) DNS for clublabs.com:
Query
ResourceName1 Type ResourceName2
-------------------------------------------
clublabs.com. NS ns1.eoasys.com.
clublabs.com. NS ns2.eoasys.com.
googleffff*CENSORED* CNAME google.com.
clublabs.com CNAME ghs.google.com.
www CNAME ghs.google.com.
clublabs.com. A 216.239.32.21
clublabs.com. A 216.239.34.21
clublabs.com. A 216.239.36.21
clublabs.com. A 216.239.38.21

(4) DNS for clublabs.net:
Query
ResourceName1 Type ResourceName2
-------------------------------------------
clublabs.net. NS ns1.eoasys.com.
clublabs.net. NS ns2.eoasys.com.
googleffff*CENSORED* CNAME google.com.
clublabs.net CNAME ghs.google.com.
www CNAME ghs.google.com.
clublabs.net. A 216.239.32.21
clublabs.net. A 216.239.34.21
clublabs.net. A 216.239.36.21
clublabs.net. A 216.239.38.21

[Yaakov Sash]

Go to

https://www.google.com/a/cpanel/clublabs.com/DomainSettingsDomains

Click "Add domain alias"

Good luck!

On Aug 12, 2:10 am, Richard <Google....@eoasys.com> wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Please forgive yet another post about this. Perhaps it will motivate
> the Google folks to clarify or fix it!
>
> With help from this group and a little luck, I've finally achieved
> this simple arrangement:
>
>        clublabs.com --> accesses "clblbs" on GAE

>    www.clublabs.com--> accesses "clblbs" on GAE

>
> My goal right now is to achieve the same with ".net" tlds, ie:
>
>        clublabs.net --> accesses "clblbs" on GAE

>    www.clublabs.net--> accesses "clblbs" on GAE

>
> I've successfully created and verified the domain alias "clublabs.net"
> on the Google Apps/Domain settings/Domain names page (Note1).
>
> I'm having trouble with "Add new URL" on the Google Apps/Service
> settings/clblbs (App Engine) page (Note2). When I enter
> "clublabs.net", then click "Add", I receive this message:
>
>    Should either be domain itself or a subdomain
>
> I've run throught this many times, checked and re-checked my DNS setup
> (Notes 3 & 4), etc, to the point of exhaustion, but am getting
> nowhere. Google, can you please clarify, fix, or set me straight about
> this?
>
> Thank You,
> Richard
>
> Notes:
> (1)www.google.com/a/cpanel/clublabs.com/DomainSettingsDomains

> (2)www.google.com/a/cpanel/clublabs.com/AppEngineServiceSettings?appId=c...

[Paul Kinlan]

I had trouble adding an alias domain into to my google apps account and then getting it to associate with the app engine.  I ended up registering for a seperate google apps account.

Paul Kinlan.

2008/8/12 Y <yaako...@gmail.com>

[DocDay]

Thanks, Y, but I already did that. I quote:

"I've successfully created and verified
the domain alias "clublabs.net" on the
Google Apps/Domain settings/Domain names
page (Note1)."

Paul, I think you're saying that you have TWO
Google Apps accounts, each pointing to the same
Google App Engine application?

The ONLY reason I'm fooling with Google Apps
AT ALL is because GAE requires it. Now I have
to deal with it TWICE OVER to do a simple
domain alias? What IS the world coming to? =:o(
I anticipate aliasing a domain with as many
as eight others later in my GAE project, so
I hope the GAE Team will more easily
accommodate domain aliasing soon.

Richard, aka DocDay

On Aug 12, 9:08 am, "Paul Kinlan" <paul.kin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I had trouble adding an alias domain into to my google apps account and then
> getting it to associate with the app engine.  I ended up registering for a
> seperate google apps account.
>
> Paul Kinlan.
>

> 2008/8/12 Y <yaakovs...@gmail.com>

> > >    clublabs.net.        A      216.239.38.21- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Paul Kinlan]

Hi,

I have two Google App Accounts pointing to two different applications
under the same account.

I had the eweri.com Google App account point to my teweri application,
I then tried to add a domain alias of knowyourprivacy.com to point to
the same google apps account so that i could point it to my
knowyourprivacy application, however I just couldn't get it to work.
In the end I just created a separate Google App account for
knowyourprivacy and that sorted it.

It was because when I added a domain from the app engine console (via
the versions menu), it said that knowyourprivacy.com was not a valid
Google Apps account.

Paul.

[oli]

go to
https://www.google.com:443/a/cpanel/clublabs.com/DomainSettings

check that control panel is set to "current" and not to "next
generation"

[DocDay]

Paul, thanks, I hadn't been down that path. I just now tried it
and of course it failed as you described.

So, it appears to be Google's intention to disallow differing
domain names pointing to the same GAE app from a single Google
Apps account. They make this (somewhat) clear with error messages
in the dashboards of both Google App Engine and Google Apps:

GAE, when adding a domain (Note 1):

"Sorry, you've reached a login page for a domain that isn't
using Google Apps."

GA, when adding a new URL to a GAE app (Note 2):

"Should either be domain itself or a subdomain"

Aliasing multiple domains to the same website is common -- and simple
with an ordinary web host using cPanel WHM, which calls it "parking".
Perhaps it's more difficult on Google's platform. It appears that
the only way around this is to create one additional Google Apps
account for each domain alias desired. This is cumbersome! If you'd
like GAE to eliminate that prospect by supporting multiple domain
aliases, please visit and "star" this issue:

Issue 638: Google Apps domain alias won't work in Google App Engine
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=638

Thanks.
DocDay

Notes:
1) http://appengine.google.com/deployment/newdomain?app_id=clblbs
2) https://www.google.com/a/cpanel/clublabs.com/AppEngineServiceSettings?appId=clblbs

> > > > >        clublabs.com--> accesses "clblbs" on GAE

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

[DocDay]

Thanks, oli, I checked that and it is set to "current". I do remember
fooling with that to add "clublabs.com" as a so-called "naked domain".
Nothing doing in this particular situation.

DocDay


On Aug 14, 9:50 am, oli <oliver....@gmail.com> wrote:
> go tohttps://www.google.com:443/a/cpanel/clublabs.com/DomainSettings

> > > > >        clublabs.com--> accesses "clblbs" on GAE

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

[DocDay]

Some additional discussion on this topic:

http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/f9eee07d68fac0f6/4f6ed11b27b5dcde?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=domain+alias

http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/67e987adafd117d7/d6d2bb26f92b19cc?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=domain+alias

http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/8b7f1bd79f570468/abcc38895dd2eca2?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=domain+alias