confusion reading GAE logs - minor request for clarity.

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doright

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Sep 8, 2012, 5:00:22 AM9/8/12
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anyone else ever had to use the logs to track down a bug?

It's a great feature, but could be improved with better wording.  It certainly doesn't help a tricky job of hunting down a bug through logs (especially when you have a multi-tenancy app) when the dates and times are confusing.

Problem (to my mind) is the use of the word "since" in the Options for log searching.  Since implies from a given point in time going forward.  Indeed the dictionary.com definition of since is:
"between a particular past time and the present;"

Therefore the setting "since->now" is really an oxymoron and should always return 0 results.
What's more confusing is that when you set a specific date and then search "since" then.  ie "since->22/08/12 @09:34"  It actually gets all logs occurring marginally AFTER that point in time, going BACK further in time.
That is definitely not SINCE in my mind.

I know I'm being pedantic, but this type of usability all helps to create great software...






Takashi Matsuo

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Sep 8, 2012, 12:00:31 PM9/8/12
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Hi doright,

I agree. How about replacing 'since' with 'until' then?

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doright

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Sep 10, 2012, 2:26:44 AM9/10/12
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Hi Takashi,

(I sent a reply yesterday but didn't show up - try again)

thanks for your reply.

I still don't think 'until' is right.  How about 'before'.

With an optional 'and after' as another field.

ie you can select a time period,
before XYZ and after ZZZ
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