"Redirect" Dead Apps?

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Brandon Wirtz

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Nov 16, 2011, 4:40:49 PM11/16/11
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Upgrades to the way some of my apps works have allowed me to do multi-tenant better than I used to, and so I am looking to consolidate Apps.   I can do this with 301’s but that requires that I leave the apps running/enabled.

 

I guess what I’m really asking is…. Should I just put up an app that 301’s all requests to the “new” app.  Or is there a way Google would prefer I end of life and forward Apps?

Brandon Wirtz

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Nov 18, 2011, 7:34:56 PM11/18/11
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The Guys at Google offered to Alias these for me, but I instead built an app that does 301’s   to a new URL.  I’ll test it for a while before I make the source public, but if you are in need of this app shoot me a note and I’ll share it.  After it has baked for a week, and I have done some calculations on how many redirects you can serve with a free app. 

 

Aliasing is nice and all, but I wanted to be able to turn things off and on when I needed or to bring back an App Name if I needed later.  If I had built my apps correctly a long while ago this wouldn’t have been an issue, but I wasn’t good about making sure that the Appspot.com url didn’t appear in search.

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WallyDD

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Nov 18, 2011, 10:12:20 PM11/18/11
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I get to read this at the same time as I am going through doing a
whole bunch of redirects.

Feel free to show me what you have (now or in a week) in case I need
to do some changes.

On Nov 18, 7:34 pm, "Brandon Wirtz" <drak...@digerat.com> wrote:
> The Guys at Google offered to Alias these for me, but I instead built an app
> that does 301's   to a new URL.  I'll test it for a while before I make the
> source public, but if you are in need of this app shoot me a note and I'll
> share it.  After it has baked for a week, and I have done some calculations
> on how many redirects you can serve with a free app.
>
> Aliasing is nice and all, but I wanted to be able to turn things off and on
> when I needed or to bring back an App Name if I needed later.  If I had
> built my apps correctly a long while ago this wouldn't have been an issue,
> but I wasn't good about making sure that the Appspot.com url didn't appear
> in search.
>
> From: google-a...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:google-a...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Wirtz
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:41 PM
> To: google-a...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [google-appengine] "Redirect" Dead Apps?
>
> Upgrades to the way some of my apps works have allowed me to do multi-tenant
> better than I used to, and so I am looking to consolidate Apps.   I can do
> this with 301's but that requires that I leave the apps running/enabled.
>

> I guess what I'm really asking is.. Should I just put up an app that 301's

N. Rosencrantz

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Nov 18, 2011, 10:39:46 PM11/18/11
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I'd like to know what the aforementioned multitenancy is. I try to achieve multtenancy with python with limited results since I learn that namespaces can only know one namespace at a time so I can't display "eveything" from a datastoreeven though it's the same app, I think. I use python and I think Brandon uses Java so details might not apply though practically you could change a name of an app just registering a new alias if you have a basic application setup. I think also Google wants us to make real apps rather than investing in clever app aliases that sells. I cared that there is no hyphen and no number in to name so my names got longer and still they are easy and I can use them (old app id is classifiedsmarket, new app id is montaoproject for my largest app and 2 other apps I have aliases to are alias cyberfaze (which used to be a M/S datastore now is an alias to the new app name webfaze) and similarly I have an alias blobsystem for my new app id wwwblob.

I'm glad the first choices weren't etched in stone and if my apps get large I'm going to use custom domains since that is what my project is multi-tentant for.

Best regards,
Nick Rosencrantz

Brandon Wirtz

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Nov 19, 2011, 12:10:31 AM11/19/11
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I’m on Python.  I tenant by domain. I don’t have logins, which makes my scenario easier.  I’ll get a link up to the redirector on or around Thanksgiving.

 

We adopted (late in the game) a naming convention of Product-Edition-OptionalClientName  

 

We still have clients running specific apps because there is no good way for usage based billing otherwise.  Jeff Probst’s website will have $300 days on the new billing and we’d rather Google Tracks that than us having to parse it out of the installs for people we charge a fixed fee for.

 

 

 

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