Flexible Environment deployments are not supported in the apps region 'europe-west'.

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Giuseppe Ancona

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Mar 16, 2017, 10:16:30 AM3/16/17
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Why? Flexible Environment is GA from March 9th....

Alex (Cloud Platform Support)

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Mar 16, 2017, 2:31:08 PM3/16/17
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Hi Guiseppe,


As correctly pointed out in your post, the Google App Engine Flexible Environment is currently unavailable in Europe and more information about the main GAE Environment differences are listed on this Comparing high-level features section.


As to the topic of Google Cloud Platform Launch Stages, a General Availability stage indicates that  “GA features are open to all developers and are considered stable and fully qualified for production use.” (More info about the different GCP launch stages can be found on this Launch stages table).


Would you be looking for making a documentation change request or for any additional information?

Marcel Manz

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Mar 16, 2017, 4:14:38 PM3/16/17
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Hi Alex

So, effectively we're back at point zero. Our Datastore and App are hosted in Europe in order to serve users with low latency.

It seems wrong having Google announce new features GA, when they are not generally (globally in this case) available.

We Europeans unfortunately are still stuck to your standard environment, not supporting any of the new language versions such as PHP 7.

Is there any ETA as to when Flexible Environment will be available in Europe? It's obvious that we're not going to deploy anything in the USA for serving our EU users.

Regards
Marcel

Alex (Cloud Platform Support)

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Mar 17, 2017, 1:33:49 PM3/17/17
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Hi Marcel,


I understand your position and unfortunately, confirm you that there is currently no ETA regarding the App Engine Flexible Environment being available in Europe. Nevertheless, I would recommend keeping up with the different App Engine community support channels listed on this GAE community page. In particular, see this Keep up with the platform section for good sources to get the latest updates about GAE.


To you and anyone reading this post, as an alternative it would be possible to setup and configure a Compute Engine instance located in Europe to run an application with PHP 7. (See this Regions and Zones documentation for the available GCE locations)


Regards,

Alex

Attila-Mihaly Balazs

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Mar 27, 2017, 1:16:14 AM3/27/17
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This is BS. The software is clearly available and there should be no technical reason for not deploying it to the eu-west datacenters also. It upsets me because it means that I'm stuck on Python 2.7 and very soon I won't be able to update to the latest Django (which will drop support for legacy python) and I also have to use MySQL (while I would much rather prefer the new hosted PostgreSQL).

pdknsk

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Mar 27, 2017, 8:01:25 AM3/27/17
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It's a different reason that Google won't tell you.

JC Lanoë

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Mar 29, 2017, 9:11:03 AM3/29/17
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I've been asking my sales rep about FE for over a year now. They kept telling me that the "GA" was imminent and that I should be patient.
Now that it's in GA but still no availability in Europe, I'm wondering if GAE FE will ever happen.

I got some insight from a few Google Engineers at Google Cloud Next who clearly told me that there was NO technical reason to wait any longer for a release in Europe.
So I strongly suspect that some legal reasons are preventing Google from making GAE FE available here.

I keep hearing that I should use GCE instances in the meantime, but I'd have to rewrite most of my backend to talk to all the App Engine services.
And no ndb, no automatic caching, a lot of pain in general, which is what I tried to escape when I picked Google App Engine.

I can understand if it takes time to make FE available in Europe, but a little bit of communication wouldn't hurt.

pdknsk

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Mar 30, 2017, 8:26:05 AM3/30/17
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It's a similar reason as to why Google Cloud is not available to non-business users in Europe (with the exception of Ireland): financial engineering, or tax evasion. I don't understand the connection, but I'm sure Google does. I think once Google opens additional data centers in Europe, particularly in the Netherlands, it will become available.

pdknsk

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Mar 30, 2017, 8:28:30 AM3/30/17
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Just to be clear: I have no insight, and that's my own speculation.

Zachary Fewtrell

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Mar 30, 2017, 3:19:28 PM3/30/17
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pdknsk

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Mar 30, 2017, 5:17:05 PM3/30/17
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Well, I guess I was wrong. Good.
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