Adding 5GB of Blobstore data to App Engine over 3 three days costs $61 by end of year?

[Jens Stoltenberg]

I tried posting this question on StackOverflow but it was immediately
closed as "not programming related".

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7295826/am-i-correct-that-adding-5-gb-of-blobstore-data-to-app-engine-over-3-three-days-w

Would someone be able to verify whether my calculations are in the
ballpark?

I'm just trying to make some estimations of the eventual cost of my
Blobstore data after 1 year and I'm not sure I am understanding the
pricing correctly.

Thanks,
Jens

[Strom]

You add 5GB over 3 days? Or do you mean for 3 days?
I'll calculate both for you:

5GB blobstore/year storage = $0
15GB blobstore/year storage = 10 * $0.0057 * 365 = $20.8

On Sep 5, 3:45 pm, Jens Stoltenberg <jstolt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I tried posting this question on StackOverflow but it was immediately
> closed as "not programming related".
>

> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7295826/am-i-correct-that-adding-5...

[Jens Stoltenberg]

What I meant was: 5GB saved on day 1, 5GB on day 2, and another 5GB on day 3.

$20.8 for the year is not bad. What made me also count the Blobstore data as Datastore Storage is this line:

http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html#Blobstore

Data stored in the blobstore counts toward the Stored Data (billable) quota, described above.

So I thought I also needed to consider the Blobstore data as being charged as "Datastore Data".

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[Strom]

Datastore and blobstore used to be billed under the same price. This
is about to change this month and I calculated with the new pricing.

On Sep 5, 9:46 pm, Jens Stoltenberg <jstolt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What I meant was: 5GB saved on day 1, 5GB on day 2, and another 5GB on day
> 3.
>
> $20.8 for the year is not bad. What made me also count the Blobstore data as
> Datastore Storage is this line:
>
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html#Blobstore
>

> *Data stored in the blobstore counts toward the Stored Data (billable) quota,
>
> > described above.
> > *

[Vinuth Madinur]

It wouldn't be $20.8. 

It will be minimum $9 per month * 12 = $108/year

[N. Rosencrantz]

In fact the new pricing makes one of my apps even more cost-efficient: It used to cost 1 cent a day and with the new pricing it won't cost anything since it's less than 5 GB and blobstore. 
So the new pricing doesn't make everything more expensive while on average it might.

Cheers,
Niklas

[Chris Collins]

Jens,

Your original calculation is correct - $61/year for 15 GB of blobstore data.

The reason is, as you pointed out, that the data is counted both as blobstore data and "stored data/datastore data".

HTH,

Chris

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[Strom]

No it is not correct. Blobstore is not counted as datastore data. Have
a quick look at your billing history page for confirmation.

On Sep 11, 8:35 pm, Chris Collins <xop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jens,
>
> Your original calculation is correct - $61/year for 15 GB of blobstore data.
>
> The reason is, as you pointed out, that the data is counted both as
> blobstore data and "stored data/datastore data".
>
> HTH,
> Chris
>

[N. Rosencrantz]

I shut down a 10 GB virtual server I used to pay godaddy.com that
hosted my Java, python and PHP projects and of course I won't go back
to Linux/Apache/Mysql...It's a technical challenge if not for the
money I can take a number of measures to adapt to appspot pricing:

- Instances (find what forces a new instance and make it with fewer)
- Storage (move whats not needed i.e. clean and move data from 2008
..Only keep last 60 or 90 days in datastore / blobstore or other
solution to let object "expire" while still being accessible from
other locations if it must)
- Read /writes (cache with 304 not-modified, memcache or instance variables)

My billing page says 0 billable for one app and 0.13 for another where
usage report says 0.01 billable today. $0.01 to $0.13 is factor 13. A
factor 13 change is large but only relative since my alternative is a
virtual server which costs about $30 monthly
(http://www.godaddy.com/hosting/virtual-dedicated-servers.aspx)

I'm happy with appspot and I don't want a virtual server and Amazon
seems to have a similar solution like virtual servers with an RDBMS
and OS and RAM and harddrive configurations.
If my apps get popular I can't expect to host them that cheap anyway.
Regards,
Niklas

[Jens Stoltenberg]

Niklas,

I can see from your "app2" image that your Blobstore data is not getting double charged as "stored data".

So Strom's estimate of $20 for the year sounds correct.

Thanks for showing your estimated bills (they look quite reasonable by the way).

Regards,

Jens