GDPR with AdMob

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Michal Bukáček

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May 17, 2018, 5:29:54 PM5/17/18
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Please help me.
I have an application that is free and in which I have one admob banner.
I do not know nothing about the users who use the application at all, only Firebase Analytic framework data is known. I know they are from this city and some approximate breakdown by gender and by age. I do not know anything else. I'm still studying GDPR and everything about, especially about Admob ... It's mainly people from Europe :)

1) What should I do? until May 25, 2018 :)
2) Did I read that I should ask for agreement with the processing of personified ads if they disagree, ads are not so personified?
3) Where do I save this data? On my server and under what ID? Should I want to use some information about a user who would identify it when I do not even need it for running the application?
4) How do I find out they are EU users? Is there a guide? Is that stupid, according to some location? Why ? Such permission should only be for this finding, I do not need it at all for the essence of my simple application.
5) Should I give these users an information window with a lot of provisions and what do they all know about using the application? There will be "Yes, I agree" and "No, I do not agree". Click "Yes, I agree", the app will turn on and have personified ads (default settings) Click "No, I disagree" and the application shuts down. :)
5) What data does AdMob collect about users?
6) Why should it bother me? I'm just doing Android and Google apps, and in Android Settings / Google / Ads / switch personified ads it's all that everyone can turn off personified ads globally.
7) Could you please send me a sample link or a tutorial about the function "ConsentDialog" I found on https://developers.google.com/admob/android/eu-consent#forward_consent_to_the_google_mobile_ads_sdk? I did not find anything on Github.com.

Thanks a lot Michal

Moribito MT

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May 18, 2018, 3:24:06 AM5/18/18
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1. You must add consent page of your own or wait for Google Consent SDK
2. Personalised ads required consent, Personalised ads also require consent ( since they use cookies )
3. Still unknown, We will wait for google how they handle this
4. You cannot find, without consent you cannot access location, without location you cannot know if user EU ( It seems stupid and paradoxic I know )
5. Yes, users should any time able to change their consent, you also should provide all privacy links and opt-out settings links for third parties.
6. See admob privacy pages
7. This seems like first step in EU, however it looks like GDPR will be efftive for whole world in future, you have to adapt this eventually
8. I cannot, because no-one know any %100 compliant Consent Dialog yet, we are still waiting for google approach, they will be our best bet.
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9. I just gave the information I know, none of them %100 reliable information, beacuse GDPR is still very confusing, no-one %100 knows anything, Things will settle down in 1-2 months after 25th May.

Tihomir RAdeff

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May 18, 2018, 8:40:37 AM5/18/18
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Is it a problem if I show the consent dialog to all of my users, even outside EU?

Also I'm not sure that the AdMob SDK will have a system to save the consent data. I think it will only remember the choice on the device. Can someone help with that?

Bevor

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May 20, 2018, 1:02:44 AM5/20/18
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On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 2:40:37 PM UTC+2, Tihomir RAdeff wrote:
Is it a problem if I show the consent dialog to all of my users, even outside EU?
 
I'm not sure about this, but as far as I know, if your company is inside EU, then you have to ask for consent regardless where your users coming from.
 

Also I'm not sure that the AdMob SDK will have a system to save the consent data. I think it will  only remember the choice on the device. Can someone help with that?

No, it doesn't save the data. You have to care about this. See last Q&A here: https://www.google.com/about/company/consenthelpstaging.html

What records do I need to keep?

Our policy requires that customers retain records of consent. At a minimum, these should include the text and choices presented to users as part of a consent mechanism and a record of the date and time of the user’s affirmative consent.


I can't give you advice, if it is enough to just save it on the device, because first of all, there is Article 7(1): https://gdpr-info.eu/art-7-gdpr/:


Where processing is based on consent, the controller shall be able to demonstrate that the data subject has consented to processing of his or her personal data.


Someone could intepret that you have to prove your consents an authority, but it could also mean that you have to prove the authority that your consent dialog is safe enough so that users cannot proceed if they didn't give consent (or decline consent). So this is something you have to decide by yourself.
I save my consents on a backend server, to be on the safe side.

Michal

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May 20, 2018, 12:17:44 PM5/20/18
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On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 7:02:44 AM UTC+2, Bevor wrote:

I save my consents on a backend server, to be on the safe side.


What data do you save in your backend?  How you identify user? By advertisement id?

Alan Cushway

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May 20, 2018, 10:33:42 PM5/20/18
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Tomasz Kucza

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May 21, 2018, 1:35:28 PM5/21/18
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Is it a problem if I show the consent dialog to all of my users, even outside EU?

That method is actually preferred, since you never know if your users really are outside EU (can be VPN, can be EU member on vacations etc.).
 
Also I'm not sure that the AdMob SDK will have a system to save the consent data. I think it will  only remember the choice on the device. Can someone help with that?

Not sure, for now I am using SharedPreferences, will switch if Consent SDK has a better solution.

TK

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May 21, 2018, 2:21:29 PM5/21/18
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Hi Michal,

In response to your concerns:

1) What should I do? until May 25, 2018 :)
Please review https://developers.google.com/admob/android/eu-consent for guidance related to using the consent SDK, as well as our updated consent policy.
2) Did I read that I should ask for agreement with the processing of personified ads if they disagree, ads are not so personified?
Yes, you need consent for non-personalized ads as per this article
3) Where do I save this data? On my server and under what ID? Should I want to use some information about a user who would identify it when I do not even need it for running the application?
As this is the SDK technical support forum, we don't provide guidance on these matters. You can ask on the product support forum for policy-related questions.
4) How do I find out they are EU users? Is there a guide? Is that stupid, according to some location? Why ? Such permission should only be for this finding, I do not need it at all for the essence of my simple application.
Please review https://developers.google.com/admob/android/eu-consent#update_consent_status, once you update status you can check ConsentInformation.getInstance().isRequestLocationInEeaOrUnknown() to see if the user is located in the European Economic Area or the request location is unknown.
5) Should I give these users an information window with a lot of provisions and what do they all know about using the application? There will be "Yes, I agree" and "No, I do not agree". Click "Yes, I agree", the app will turn on and have personified ads (default settings) Click "No, I disagree" and the application shuts down. :)
As this is the SDK technical support forum, we don't provide guidance on matters such as app design. You can ask on the product support forum for policy-related questions.
5) What data does AdMob collect about users?
 Please review this article
6) Why should it bother me? I'm just doing Android and Google apps, and in Android Settings / Google / Ads / switch personified ads it's all that everyone can turn off personified ads globally.
As this is the SDK technical support forum, we don't provide guidance on these matters. You can ask on the product support forum for policy-related questions.
7) Could you please send me a sample link or a tutorial about the function "ConsentDialog" I found on https://developers.google.com/admob/android/eu-consent#forward_consent_to_the_google_mobile_ads_sdk? I did not find anything on Github.com.
The consent SDK is available on GitHub and integration instructions are available on the developer site guide now.

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Tihomir RAdeff

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May 29, 2018, 10:16:17 AM5/29/18
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I'm using SharedPreferences to save the consent too but now that the SDK is released I don't understand if they have a system to dave the consent. I know they keep the status between app launches but is the info shared online and can I see it?

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May 29, 2018, 12:29:40 PM5/29/18
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Hi Tihomir, please only post your questions on one thread at a time to save duplicate effort.

That said, as per the other thread:

The SDK will only store the consent value on device, not online.
If you wish to have further records, you will need to implement your own record-keeping methodology.  Please look at "What Records do I need to keep?" on this page for further guidance.

Regards

Sam



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Rahul Patil

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What if I exclude my App from European Countries in Play Developer Console, do I need to worry about GDPR consent anymore? Because I have very small amount of users from EU.

Vorun Kreal

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I have the same question about excluding European Countries in Play Developer Console and not worry about GDPR consent anymore?

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This forum is strictly for technical questions regarding the Google Mobile Ads SDK and Consent SDK. For policy questions, I would recommend you reach out on the Google Mobile Ads Product Forum.

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On 06/18/18 23:39:41 vkr...@gmail.com wrote:
I have the same question about excluding European Countries in Play Developer Console and not worry about GDPR consent anymore?

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 11:32 PM Rahul Patil <rahulp...@gmail.com> wrote:
What if I exclude my App from European Countries in Play Developer Console, do I need to worry about GDPR consent anymore? Because I have very small amount of users from EU.

On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 9:59:40 PM UTC+5:30, mobileadssdk-a...@google.com wrote:
Hi Tihomir, please only post your questions on one thread at a time to save duplicate effort.

That said, as per the other thread:

The SDK will only store the consent value on device, not online.
If you wish to have further records, you will need to implement your own record-keeping methodology.  Please look at "What Records do I need to keep?" on this page for further guidance.

Regards

Sam



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