"America has nothing to fear from today’s immigrants." Barack Obama speech at National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials (NALEO) Jun 28, 2008

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Pros:

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Cons:

1. Perhaps some people have too much fear from illegal immigration, but saying their is nothing to fear is a vast oversimplification, and is actually a demonization of people with very real and legitimate fear. People who live in gated communities, that send their children to private schools, and are not concerned about the price of healthcare might not have any concerns about illegal immigration, but for low and middle class Americans it is a very real concern. Our public school teachers are overwhelmed with kids that don't speak English, and don't know our customers, they have to leave in communities with disaffected youth, and go to hospitals that are overwhelmed with people that don't pay their bills. 
2. Allowing millions of people to come to our nation without doing any paperworks poses a very real security issue.
3. Illegal immigrants are no better or worse than any other group of people on the planet. However if they do not speak English, and have a high school education they will have difficulty integrating into our society. 
4. America is going to have hard enough time taking care of our own high school drop outs without importing 70 million of them from our neighboring countries.
5. Illegal immigrants have a hard time integrating into our society.
6. Their are many Latin gangs in America including, Latin Kings, Mexican Mafia, Sureños, 38th Street gang, Clanton 14, Culver City Boys 13, Fresno Bulldogs, Jheri Curls, Maras (gangs), Nuestra Familia, Varrio Nuevo Estrada, Venice 13.
7. Hispanics have a 20% drop-out rate. (From the Institute of Education Sciences, IES, National Center for Education Statistics, US Department of Education).

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Interest of those who agree: 

1. The desire to see America grow in size to compete with China. 
2. The desire to make America look more like them, if they are Hispanic. 
3. The desire for America to be more diverse, if they have liberal guilt. 
4. The desire to see America more Catholic.
5. Financial interest if your company would have to move overseas if not for cheap illegal labor.
6. Financial interest if you just don't like paying your workers very much.

Interest of those who disagree: %

1. Rule of law (if some people have to come in the legal way, and wait in line, everyone should have to come in the legal way, and wait their turn in line).
2. The desire to not see America become more Catholic.
3. The desire to keep American culture less diverse, or with positive spin more "unified". 

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Values that agree:

1. Multiculturalism
2. Ethnic pride

Values that disagree:

1. Rule of Law
2. Ethnic pride

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The Idea Stock Exchange score for this idea is: +3-1=2

The percent that agree is: 92%

R2D(-): 0       R2AD(-): 0       R2DD(+): 0        Total Score: 1

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