The power curve for JetFluid CycleOps Pro.

[Leszek Prozorowicz]

I have a trainer CycleOps JetFluid Pro and PowerTap power measurement. I verified the power curve provided by the manufacturer and form my equipment is reliable. Based on the data collected I enumerated equation for power curve (by approximation).

Is it possible to put the power curve for the trainer in the program?

[Mark Liversedge]

Just raise a feature request on github for this and we'll look to add it in v3.1.

We are also looking to allow users to provide their own coefficients in future so we don't need to code them up for every future eventuality!

[Leszek Prozorowicz]

Thank you for your response. When it will be available approximately?  Before winter?
A lot of my friends would be glad to use the virtual power in training!

[Mark Liversedge]

Can't make any promises, but ping a reminder nearer the time and we'll hopefully push it into one of the developer builds, its not a big change.

[Bert Berla]

If it's not available by then, I've been really satisfied with the virtual power in trainerroad over this past off-season. I'm not affiliated with the company in any way, just a satisfied user. It's $10 US/month and there's no commitment so you can just use it for the winter if you want - worth checking out.

[Nenad Jevtovic]

Hello I do not see power curve for CycleOps JetFluid Pro in v3.2. There is only for CycleOps Fluid2 and CycleOps Magneto.

[Nenad]

Hello Mark,

Once again :), Is there some possibility to add power curve for CycleOps JetFluid Pro? It is one of the most popular and frequently used trainer.

Winter is coming :).

Regards,
Nenad

[Jean Div]

Ney Nenad

Speaking under correction, but as someone that has only had both of those trainers.. I think that the resistance units are so similar that you could probably just ride a JetFluid on Fluid2 setting. Most important thing is consistency, rather than absolute accuracy. I find that my watts indoors with my power meter are so different from outdoor rides, that it's not apples and apples anyways.

Not very helpful, but I hope that helps :-)

[Nenad]

 

Hello Jean,

Look these two resistance curves. I think there is huge difference between these trainers. JetFluid Pro resistance is more progressive than Fluid2. With this difference it that can be difficult to train in desired training zone.

Regards

[Jean Div]

Hey Nenad

Good Googling! Never seen those graphs before. I did a ramp test on a calibrated Computrainer last week, and this is what the curve looked like..

'Looks' a bit more like a Jetfluid curve. May be real, may also be a bit of marketing to say 'our new JetFluid pro is more progressive with a higher top end, so you should spend a few more bucks'. That curve is not really compatible with the real world anyways.. no weight, no position so its just illustrative - perhaps you need to ride the Fluid2 in the drops and the Jetfluid up on the hoods :-)

All I can really say is that the trainers feel identical to me, but suppose I'm in a different boat to you with power in the crank, so don't really mind how quickly my back wheel is spinning.

ITO zones, I'd go by speed-based RPE zones if I were you for now, or HR, or just plain RPE. Consistency is whats important here, and speed will be consistent.. just need to take a few sets to get it dialled.

[Nick Burrett]

I would find it difficult to model my CycleOps JetFluid trainer, which is positioned in the garden shed.  The power requirement for a given speed changes according to the temperature of the fluid.  I experience a 50W increase (220W - 270W) @32kmh/h after 10 minutes of operation, increasing by a further 50W @32km/h (270W - 320W) after another 5 minutes.  The power-output for a given speed appears steady after the fluid has reached a certain temperature at around 20mins.

Regards,

Nick.

[Jan de Visser]

On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:10:52 PM EDT Nick Burrett wrote:
> I would find it difficult to model my CycleOps JetFluid trainer, which is
> positioned in the garden shed. The power requirement for a given speed
> changes according to the temperature of the fluid. I experience a 50W
> increase (220W - 270W) @32kmh/h after 10 minutes of operation, increasing
> by a further 50W @32km/h (270W - 320W) after another 5 minutes. The
> power-output for a given speed appears steady after the fluid has reached a
> certain temperature at around 20mins.

This is in line with my observations.

>
> Regards,
>
> Nick.
>

jan

[Nenad]

Mark, Is there possibility someone to add his own power curve?