I have done my first training with a powermeter on 2 october so i restarted from scratch logging workouts from that date.
It seems to me that first workout is not considered in PMC, see pmc.png .
So i thought "maybe i did not have correctly set my CP on 2 october" but this does not seems the case, see CP.png.
El sábado, 8 de octubre de 2016, 20:44:43 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:I have done my first training with a powermeter on 2 october so i restarted from scratch logging workouts from that date.
It seems to me that first workout is not considered in PMC, see pmc.png .
So i thought "maybe i did not have correctly set my CP on 2 october" but this does not seems the case, see CP.png.You can see which CP/CV is set for any activity in the activity summary at the top of Time in Power/Pace Zones table, if there is no such table is because that activity doesn't have a valid CP/CV.
I see you have your system configured for 2 digits year, regrettably this is a no go with GC, I suggest to change your system year format to long format (4 digits), restart GC and check your Power/Pace zones start dates again.
Il giorno domenica 9 ottobre 2016 03:07:59 UTC+2, Ale Martinez ha scritto:El sábado, 8 de octubre de 2016, 20:44:43 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:I have done my first training with a powermeter on 2 october so i restarted from scratch logging workouts from that date.
It seems to me that first workout is not considered in PMC, see pmc.png .
So i thought "maybe i did not have correctly set my CP on 2 october" but this does not seems the case, see CP.png.You can see which CP/CV is set for any activity in the activity summary at the top of Time in Power/Pace Zones table, if there is no such table is because that activity doesn't have a valid CP/CV.
I thought you cannot have a bikescore without CP, i checked and it seems that CP was right, see 20161002bike.png .
I see you have your system configured for 2 digits year, regrettably this is a no go with GC, I suggest to change your system year format to long format (4 digits), restart GC and check your Power/Pace zones start dates again.
I don't understand exactly what you mean, the only windows where i get two digit years are in GC-tools-options-athlete so i thought it was GC and not my Linux Mint 18 (Ubuntu 16.04).
I enclose a terminal screenshot with some date related commands, seems ok to me.
Thank you.
El domingo, 9 de octubre de 2016, 3:19:35 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:Il giorno domenica 9 ottobre 2016 03:07:59 UTC+2, Ale Martinez ha scritto:El sábado, 8 de octubre de 2016, 20:44:43 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:I have done my first training with a powermeter on 2 october so i restarted from scratch logging workouts from that date.
It seems to me that first workout is not considered in PMC, see pmc.png .
So i thought "maybe i did not have correctly set my CP on 2 october" but this does not seems the case, see CP.png.You can see which CP/CV is set for any activity in the activity summary at the top of Time in Power/Pace Zones table, if there is no such table is because that activity doesn't have a valid CP/CV.
I thought you cannot have a bikescore without CP, i checked and it seems that CP was right, see 20161002bike.png .Yes, it is, see TriScore 150 on Metrics column
I see you have your system configured for 2 digits year, regrettably this is a no go with GC, I suggest to change your system year format to long format (4 digits), restart GC and check your Power/Pace zones start dates again.
I don't understand exactly what you mean, the only windows where i get two digit years are in GC-tools-options-athlete so i thought it was GC and not my Linux Mint 18 (Ubuntu 16.04).
I enclose a terminal screenshot with some date related commands, seems ok to me.
Thank you.On Ubuntu 16.04 date format is configured in System Settings->Language Support->Regional Formats
El domingo, 9 de octubre de 2016, 10:18:15 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:Il giorno domenica 9 ottobre 2016 14:14:33 UTC+2, Ale Martinez ha scritto:El domingo, 9 de octubre de 2016, 3:19:35 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:Il giorno domenica 9 ottobre 2016 03:07:59 UTC+2, Ale Martinez ha scritto:El sábado, 8 de octubre de 2016, 20:44:43 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:I have done my first training with a powermeter on 2 october so i restarted from scratch logging workouts from that date.
It seems to me that first workout is not considered in PMC, see pmc.png .
So i thought "maybe i did not have correctly set my CP on 2 october" but this does not seems the case, see CP.png.You can see which CP/CV is set for any activity in the activity summary at the top of Time in Power/Pace Zones table, if there is no such table is because that activity doesn't have a valid CP/CV.
I thought you cannot have a bikescore without CP, i checked and it seems that CP was right, see 20161002bike.png .Yes, it is, see TriScore 150 on Metrics column
So the question is: is it right that PCM chart ignore that 150 Triscore?
I see you have your system configured for 2 digits year, regrettably this is a no go with GC, I suggest to change your system year format to long format (4 digits), restart GC and check your Power/Pace zones start dates again.
I don't understand exactly what you mean, the only windows where i get two digit years are in GC-tools-options-athlete so i thought it was GC and not my Linux Mint 18 (Ubuntu 16.04).
I enclose a terminal screenshot with some date related commands, seems ok to me.
Thank you.On Ubuntu 16.04 date format is configured in System Settings->Language Support->Regional Formats
I have Mate desktop, just to check that it was not a desktop issue i installed KDE too,
Mate show me just the installed locales, while kde show me regional date options too - see enclosed png. It turns out that it_IT locale has a long format with four digits and a short format with two digit. I changed my locale, only for date and time, to ga_IE which seems to have four digit for the year in short format too and voilà, i have athlete tabs with four digits.
So, would it be possible to make GC read date from long format so it get the four digits he wants? it_IT is not the only locale which have two digits for short date formate, spanish and other have two digits.
I could somehow hack my locale to have four digits in short format too but i think that this cannot be asked to all linux users whit two digit short format date, do you agree?Not really but, anyway another related question is if any developer is willing to dedicate his time to avoid this usability problem, and the answer seems to be negative for now (see https://github.com/GoldenCheetah/GoldenCheetah/issues/2123), until this change those concerned about the issue could help documenting it and explaining how to avoid it in the wiki, which is open for contributions from the community of users.
Il giorno domenica 9 ottobre 2016 21:14:33 UTC+2, Ale Martinez ha scritto:El domingo, 9 de octubre de 2016, 10:18:15 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:Il giorno domenica 9 ottobre 2016 14:14:33 UTC+2, Ale Martinez ha scritto:El domingo, 9 de octubre de 2016, 3:19:35 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:Il giorno domenica 9 ottobre 2016 03:07:59 UTC+2, Ale Martinez ha scritto:El sábado, 8 de octubre de 2016, 20:44:43 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:I have done my first training with a powermeter on 2 october so i restarted from scratch logging workouts from that date.
It seems to me that first workout is not considered in PMC, see pmc.png .
So i thought "maybe i did not have correctly set my CP on 2 october" but this does not seems the case, see CP.png.You can see which CP/CV is set for any activity in the activity summary at the top of Time in Power/Pace Zones table, if there is no such table is because that activity doesn't have a valid CP/CV.
I thought you cannot have a bikescore without CP, i checked and it seems that CP was right, see 20161002bike.png .Yes, it is, see TriScore 150 on Metrics column
So the question is: is it right that PCM chart ignore that 150 Triscore?
I still don't understand why this happens and if it's ok
I see you have your system configured for 2 digits year, regrettably this is a no go with GC, I suggest to change your system year format to long format (4 digits), restart GC and check your Power/Pace zones start dates again.
I don't understand exactly what you mean, the only windows where i get two digit years are in GC-tools-options-athlete so i thought it was GC and not my Linux Mint 18 (Ubuntu 16.04).
I enclose a terminal screenshot with some date related commands, seems ok to me.
Thank you.On Ubuntu 16.04 date format is configured in System Settings->Language Support->Regional Formats
I have Mate desktop, just to check that it was not a desktop issue i installed KDE too,
Mate show me just the installed locales, while kde show me regional date options too - see enclosed png. It turns out that it_IT locale has a long format with four digits and a short format with two digit. I changed my locale, only for date and time, to ga_IE which seems to have four digit for the year in short format too and voilà, i have athlete tabs with four digits.
So, would it be possible to make GC read date from long format so it get the four digits he wants? it_IT is not the only locale which have two digits for short date formate, spanish and other have two digits.
I could somehow hack my locale to have four digits in short format too but i think that this cannot be asked to all linux users whit two digit short format date, do you agree?Not really but, anyway another related question is if any developer is willing to dedicate his time to avoid this usability problem, and the answer seems to be negative for now (see https://github.com/GoldenCheetah/GoldenCheetah/issues/2123), until this change those concerned about the issue could help documenting it and explaining how to avoid it in the wiki, which is open for contributions from the community of users.
Well, i just need to learn the day of the week in Irish :-)
...Neither am I and it is not Ok but I can't reproduce it. I would try a full cache refresh: close GC, wipe athlete's cache folder content, restart GC.......
Il giorno lunedì 10 ottobre 2016 01:14:29 UTC+2, Ale Martinez ha scritto:...Neither am I and it is not Ok but I can't reproduce it. I would try a full cache refresh: close GC, wipe athlete's cache folder content, restart GC.......I restarted from scratch removing everything GC related i found (~/.goldencheetah and ~/.config/goldencheetah.org) and i can reproduce everytime, even starting from scratch with ga_IE locale only for date settings ( export LC_TIME="ga_IE.UTF-8" in a terminal then launchin GC from there) so if you want i could send you my fits files to try in a new athlete.
Does tools-options-athlete-measures-PMC stress today balance affect PMC chart?
Is your OS Windows or Linux?
I'll put up a Windows 7 virtual machine to test if this problem is linux related too.
El lunes, 10 de octubre de 2016, 1:24:19 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:
Il giorno lunedì 10 ottobre 2016 01:14:29 UTC+2, Ale Martinez ha scritto:...Neither am I and it is not Ok but I can't reproduce it. I would try a full cache refresh: close GC, wipe athlete's cache folder content, restart GC.......I restarted from scratch removing everything GC related i found (~/.goldencheetah and ~/.config/goldencheetah.org) and i can reproduce everytime, even starting from scratch with ga_IE locale only for date settings ( export LC_TIME="ga_IE.UTF-8" in a terminal then launchin GC from there) so if you want i could send you my fits files to try in a new athlete.
Does tools-options-athlete-measures-PMC stress today balance affect PMC chart?Only WRT to TSB
Is your OS Windows or Linux?Linux
I'll put up a Windows 7 virtual machine to test if this problem is linux related too.I've never seen something like this reported, on any platform...Does the problem happen also selecting other Date Ranges and/or other PMC charts?
About locales trouble under linux, could it be related to this bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982
?
It does not seems to affect english based locales.
El martes, 11 de octubre de 2016, 13:03:16 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:
Il giorno lunedì 10 ottobre 2016 19:46:49 UTC+2, Ale Martinez ha scritto:El lunes, 10 de octubre de 2016, 1:24:19 (UTC-3), Fa Bio escribió:
Il giorno lunedì 10 ottobre 2016 01:14:29 UTC+2, Ale Martinez ha scritto:...Neither am I and it is not Ok but I can't reproduce it. I would try a full cache refresh: close GC, wipe athlete's cache folder content, restart GC.......I restarted from scratch removing everything GC related i found (~/.goldencheetah and ~/.config/goldencheetah.org) and i can reproduce everytime, even starting from scratch with ga_IE locale only for date settings ( export LC_TIME="ga_IE.UTF-8" in a terminal then launchin GC from there) so if you want i could send you my fits files to try in a new athlete.
Does tools-options-athlete-measures-PMC stress today balance affect PMC chart?Only WRT to TSBIs your OS Windows or Linux?LinuxI'll put up a Windows 7 virtual machine to test if this problem is linux related too.I've never seen something like this reported, on any platform...Does the problem happen also selecting other Date Ranges and/or other PMC charts?
Manually inserting a fake bike workout on 01/10/16 with bikescore 1 makes ctl atl tsb and rr calculated for my first training on 02/10/2016, and PMC triscore graph consider it (and not the fake one).
If you check 5th post images you can see that these values where 0 before. I think that these values are not calculated for first workout.
So if you want to try to reproduce it (if you think it's worthwhile, i'm ok with it) i think you could try to add a new athlete, import there some of yours rides and check pmc triscore graph.Good finding, now I can reproduce it!The first activity for the athlete seems to be ignored by the PMC calculator and this behavior seems to be independent of the base metric (TriScore, TSS, etc) and the chart and date range used.
Yes the click works well, i would like popup to show me bikescore while on green bars (bike) swimscore while on light blue bars (swim) and GOVSS while on red bars (run).
It shows me always run triscore, i don't know how to change it.