The thinking behind new overview HRV metric

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Serban Mestecaneanu

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Mar 10, 2017, 9:11:11 AM3/10/17
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Hi,

I would really like to know what is the scope of having a graph with the HRV trend as it appears in the new Overview. I mean I know what RMSSD means, but how can this graph helps an athlete.

Many thanks,

Serban

Mike

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Mar 12, 2017, 8:27:12 PM3/12/17
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Sorry to hijack, but is it possible for GC to sync with Elite HRV ? I've been using that to measure HRV, it would be awesome if that could sync with GC. Not sure if Elite HRV have an api. Does anyone else use Elite HRV ?

I guess the scope of having the chart is to see how your HRV changes according to training stress? Perhaps it's useless.. 

Mike

Luther Gulseth

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Mar 13, 2017, 12:31:43 AM3/13/17
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I just started using Ellie HRV....getting back into serious training soon and wanted to start my baseline. I'd be interested in an Elite import feature and can help test.

Luther

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Serban Mestecaneanu

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Mar 13, 2017, 2:50:29 AM3/13/17
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I am using Elite HRV for quite a while, very useful app indeed, also started to use, and probably I will switch to using it, HRV4Training. It has better integration, including Strava or TrainingPeaks and Apple Health if you are on IOS.

But your point remains valid, it would be great to sync or import into GC from any of these.

Serban


On Monday, 13 March 2017 06:31:43 UTC+2, Luther Gulseth wrote:
I just started using Ellie HRV....getting back into serious training soon and wanted to start my baseline. I'd be interested in an Elite import feature and can help test.

Luther
On Mar 12, 2017 7:27 PM, "Mike" <drift...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry to hijack, but is it possible for GC to sync with Elite HRV ? I've been using that to measure HRV, it would be awesome if that could sync with GC. Not sure if Elite HRV have an api. Does anyone else use Elite HRV ?

I guess the scope of having the chart is to see how your HRV changes according to training stress? Perhaps it's useless.. 

Mike


On Friday, 10 March 2017 22:11:11 UTC+8, Serban Mestecaneanu wrote:
Hi,

I would really like to know what is the scope of having a graph with the HRV trend as it appears in the new Overview. I mean I know what RMSSD means, but how can this graph helps an athlete.

Many thanks,

Serban

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Karl-Axel Zander

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Mar 13, 2017, 11:01:22 AM3/13/17
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I'm have used Omegawave (Readiness calculator including HRV-measurments, and more) for some time and have been thinking of how to include it into my traning diary (which is GC) to have everything nicely viewable at one place. Did throw above setup together the other day as a test. Thought it would be nice in a single graph to see the relation between the functional measured traning load, cardiac readiness (from HRV) and metabolism (estimated from amplitude frequency analysis on the ECG). I'm manually adding the data as custom created fields in the activites' details, and then plotting them to the default Coggan Stress PMC chart

Thought it might be a useful approach/idea/thinking to share, when on the HRV-subject!

PS: Have had problems with my Omegawave sensor until recently, thus why there is lots of gaps in the Omegawave data in the plot, and not sure if it's full of bad values/mesaurments. = unusable at the moment for me, but thinking it in the future with more regular data can be a good addition to a PMC

Mike

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Mar 13, 2017, 7:07:07 PM3/13/17
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Very interesting, do you find that Coggan ATL CTL track fairly closely to cardiac readiness? It looks to track quite well. 

I only have about 2 weeks of HRV data recently, and about 2 weeks from later last year. I might try graph the same and see what's up.. 

Mark Liversedge

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Mar 14, 2017, 4:58:39 AM3/14/17
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On Monday, 13 March 2017 23:07:07 UTC, Mike wrote:
Very interesting, do you find that Coggan ATL CTL track fairly closely to cardiac readiness? It looks to track quite well. 

The correlation that counts would be readiness and TSB since they both attempt to predict the same thing.

Mark 

Oriol Garrote

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Mar 14, 2017, 5:29:38 AM3/14/17
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Hi, I'm using Elite HRV and I would be pleased integrating its data into GC, but I think they have no api and no intention to build one. You can't even backup your data outside their system, just export it and you receive by mail your history with raw data (a txt file for every entry). Then you can use other software like Kubios HRV to analyze it.
Jason from Elite HRV is a very kind and helpful guy (every time I've contacted for issues regarding the Android app) so you can try to contact him to see any possibility of integration.

Oriol


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Karl-Axel Zander

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Mar 14, 2017, 2:09:31 PM3/14/17
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Yes, TSB & and Cardiac Readiness is of interest to compare. Can't say anything today with the little unregular data I got unfortunately, but I'm very interested too of how this relation behaves over time

Also see CTL compared with MRI/Aerobic Readiness/Anaerobic Readiness. They ought over time go up and down-ish together - depending much on how the athlete trains and rest etc, naturally. If interested in what those metrics are more specifically, see explanation in Omegawave's user guide here, page 23-24: https://issuu.com/omegawave/docs/ow_quick_start_guide_v2
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