Alpe d´Huez climb

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argmac

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Oct 15, 2011, 4:36:12 PM10/15/11
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I have just downloaded the Alpe d´Huez climb and this is just awesome.
However we should devise a different way to handle files with this
purpose. The moment I import the ride as an activity it is affecting
most of my summary training data, when in reality I haven't yet even
done the ride.

I think GC should handle this as part of a library of courses than can
be ridden and infinite number of times, each time it is ridden
creating a new activity file. I will try to give dig into the details,
but I just wanted to drop my first thoughts. It would also be great to
have a public library of courses to be imported into GC hosted
somewhere.

Arturo

Fernando Maldonado

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Oct 15, 2011, 4:43:40 PM10/15/11
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Could you upload the file or supply a link please? I'm also curious as to how these files will be handled.
 
Thanks,
 
Fernando


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Gareth

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Oct 15, 2011, 10:02:32 PM10/15/11
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I was the one who made the file available.

It is at: http://goldencheetah.stand2surf.net/

Smeone asked for a sample so I did one.

I agree with Arturo, I think that we need to have a Training activites
file section.

Where you can drag/drop one of your own existing rides from Activities
and then obviously an Import ride section.

Guess I'll raise a Feature request on it in the next few days.



On Oct 15, 4:43 pm, Fernando Maldonado

Mark Liversedge

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Oct 16, 2011, 7:45:20 AM10/16/11
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We already have a 'workout files' config, but at present it looks for .erg, .mrs and .crs files (Computrainer load files). I think we could extend it to include .gpx/.tcx and update realtime to use the positional data (i.e. lat lon) as well as computing the gradient  to make that work.

Or put simply, use .gpx/.tcx in the same way we use .crs (gradients) AND use the geo-positioning.

Should be 'fairly' easy to do :)

Greg Lonnon

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Oct 16, 2011, 8:11:19 AM10/16/11
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how do we keep the "workout files" from being counted as actual rides???

Greg

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Fernando Maldonado

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Oct 16, 2011, 11:11:56 AM10/16/11
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I'm thinking out loud here... The problem I see is there is no power or speed data in the FIT file. I think a "trainer" file needs to have something to chase. For example, I can create this same course in bikeroutetoaster.com and declare an avg speed on the flats and a climbing speed in feet/min . The course time is roughly calculated based on the climbing. If I download this course to a Garmin unit, the virtual partner will slow on the hills. By increasing the climbing speed I can challenge myself more and more.

Of course this would work perfectly with a trainer that has controllable resistance. On my KK I would have to speed up in order to maintain a certain power level and there would have to be some kind of override to keep me from flying up a hill. That's why I thought linking to power not speed might work.

Unfortunately tcx files created as courses at bikeroutetoaster will crash GC to the point it won't even start again until you delete the file from the folder of rides. So I can't test any further.

So far, I've tested against rides I've completed so I just follow a ride I already have. I suppose I could add the FIT file, ride against it then delete the FIT file leaving only my actual ride. However, a separate workout section of rides is needed.

Luckily, living in SoCal I won't have to resort to the trainer very much. However, the prospect of doing my few trainer rides against rides I've never previously done is enticing.

Fernando

Mark Liversedge

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Oct 16, 2011, 12:17:07 PM10/16/11
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There is a config setting to define the "workout directory" ... if its in there its a workout :)

Guy Melville

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Jul 17, 2020, 8:38:01 AM7/17/20
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Hi G Coco, and all,

I've just found this Alpe 'dHuez climb thread.

Please, is this training workout still available in the GC workouts database.  If so, please could you tell me what it is called now?

An ancient post on the Golden Cheetah Development forum (t: http://goldencheetah.stand2surf.net/ ) gives it as id=141 file type - 4, but I think that system of workout access as long since been superseded.

Many thanks,

Guy

Ale Martinez (Please don't email or cc me)

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Jul 17, 2020, 10:15:22 AM7/17/20
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I don't know if that file is available anymore, but Street View/Train Map charts referenced there were deprecated in GC v3.5

OTOH you can ride in Train mode any GPX track (not route) s.t. the one available for download at https://ridewithgps.com/routes/2674753
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