new native ant+ supported on Mac?

[Sean Langford]

Have a garmin ant+ usb stick and intel MacBook Pro + SRM wireless. Is
this configuration supported yet with any of the development builds?
Would love to try it out.

Thanks

Sean

[Mark Liversedge]

It is most certainly supported and working, will need the latest
drivers by installing Garmin ANT agent (and then disabling ANT agent
since it gets in the way). We don't have any pre-built binaries yet
tho.

[Gareth]

On Apr 6, 2:16 am, Mark Liversedge <liverse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We don't have any pre-built binaries yet tho

Well Mark didn't know that I've had a build but not yet posted it up.

It is now up: http://goldencheetah.stand2surf.net/?p=429

Most likely 10.5 and above only. If you are on 10.4 your most likely
out of luck.

Consider it still an alpha release.

Shouldn't overwrite any of your 2.x data.

You will need to copy your data across or reload it.

See http://goldencheetah.stand2surf.net/?p=425 for some hints.

[Jamie Kimberley]

Also note that similar functionality is available in the current
release (2.0) but you need to install and run quarqd. instructions
are on the wiki.

That said, the new native implementation is very clean and works
really well. As mark said, add the drivers, and then you're pretty
much good to go.

Jamie

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[Brendan]

This is great to test on.  good job getting a build, I couldnt get it to build, so just seeing a V3 is exciting.  I can report that it will not run on my 10.4.11 ppc machine.

It *IS* running on my 10.6.6 intel mac - Imported data just fine, so great job there.  however, I'm not able to add the ANT+ functionality in the DEVICES.  My old GSC-10 profile is there, complete with profile ids and virtual channel.  It keeps giving me an error (which I can't make go away and I have to restart GC), that the port spec for a serial device is /dev/XXXX - which I am not sure what is going on .  When I just try to start it up with the ANT device is says that it cant open the ANT device.  I use this machine for the ANT agent, and it is disabled as I can plug in my stick without it starting up.  I used this machine extensively to run GCv2 via quarqd.

when i go to the hidden dev/ folder on the machine, it has a linked folder in the home directory, but when I click on it, it says its not there.  so... not sure what is going on with the native ANT on my machine.

I can say that everything else seems to be working pretty well for an alpha, but the one big thing that isnt working is the metrics and treemap.  they are all gone or hidden until you start to fiddle. I'm sure this will get cleaned up with some default settings.

I am going to keep trying to get the native ANT+ working, but any help until then would be much appreciated.  again, great work on getting this out the door.  Cant wait to experience Native ANT+

[Mark Liversedge]

On 06/04/11 22:12, Brendan wrote:
> This is great to test on. good job getting a build, I couldnt get it
> to build, so just seeing a V3 is exciting. I can report that it will
> not run on my 10.4.11 ppc machine.
>
> It *IS* running on my 10.6.6 intel mac - Imported data just fine, so
> great job there. however, I'm not able to add the ANT+ functionality
> in the DEVICES. My old GSC-10 profile is there, complete with profile
> ids and virtual channel. It keeps giving me an error (which I can't
> make go away and I have to restart GC), that the port spec for a
> serial device is /dev/XXXX - which I am not sure what is going on .
> When I just try to start it up with the ANT device is says that it
> cant open the ANT device. I use this machine for the ANT agent, and
> it is disabled as I can plug in my stick without it starting up. I
> used this machine extensively to run GCv2 via quarqd.
>
> when i go to the hidden dev/ folder on the machine, it has a linked
> folder in the home directory, but when I click on it, it says its not
> there. so... not sure what is going on with the native ANT on my machine.

You need to specify the /dev/xxxx device file for the usb stick. Make
sure the latest ANT stuff is sorted.

>
> I can say that everything else seems to be working pretty well for an
> alpha, but the one big thing that isnt working is the metrics and
> treemap. they are all gone or hidden until you start to fiddle. I'm
> sure this will get cleaned up with some default settings.
>

The chart properties are managed now. When you drag and drop a chart on
the home window and configure it the settings are saved and applied on
restart. The Analysis view doesn't use the drag/drop layout stuff yet
and so this 'bug' will disappear when it does. You just need to select a
date range for the chart to appear... I don't restore it coz it would
interfere with the layour manager, so if you have a bunch of
charts/treemaps you like then configure them on the home window for now
and remove them from the analysis view.

I am fixing up homewindow and will proly make all the views use it
soon... it just needs more work to make sure it is robust enough.

> I am going to keep trying to get the native ANT+ working, but any help
> until then would be much appreciated. again, great work on getting
> this out the door. Cant wait to experience Native ANT+

Install the latest garmin ant agent to get the latest drivers, then
disable garmin ant agent. Look for the device file in /dev or via dmesg
and you should be good to go. I run on Win7, Ubuntu, MBP 10.6 and an
iMac 10.6 with no issues.

Mark

[Brendan]

The problems I am having are eerily similar to the issues a few of us had once Garmin pushed an update to the ANT agent.  Garmin Update Kills Realtime on OSX

basically, I want to be able to USE the Garmin Ant agent to upload workouts from my watch, but I like to use GC for  realtime and analysis.  If I have to bail on Garmin connect, then so be it.  Its just nice to be able to set goals and add totals, etc.

[Brendan]

so, after trying unsuccessfully to build V3 for an entire weekend, and then using V3_alpha for OSX a few times, I'm going to provide as much feedback as I can in order to do my part.  GCV3 was tested on an intel macbook, osx 10.6.6 and I copied over all my V2 data.  I am using a Fluid2 and the power is right on (based on my own program using the formula) -- bottom line, internal ANT+ works well if your drivers are reporting the USB device port info that you have to enter into the ANT field.  Since Garmin connect no longer works for me, I now rely on GC to upload my data to training peaks (I dislike TP so far, or maybe I am not used to it).  I use a Garmin FR60 watch - non GPS) to collect ride data when outside, and I also have it running on the handlebars when doing indoor rides.  

I am personally sensitive to feature-creep myself, but that hasn't stopped me from making a few small suggestions  :)   to go along with the _BUG_ reporting here.  I know V3 is alpha and so I am trying to provide as much as I can here, but I think the fact that it works is very very cool.  Great job to all.

1. ??_BUG_?? Garmin drivers versus ANT+ drivers and V3 : For me, the bottom line since the Garmin ANT agent update from Feb 4, is that realtime WILL NOT work if using the Garmin drivers.  Using the ANT+ mac drivers (downloaded from ThisIsAnt) makes this work.  However, I lose Garmin ANT agent functionality, which stinks because I only have my watch as a data recorder when I am outside (and the weather is improving here in the US).  I dont know what to say, but ever since the Garmin ANT update, it's been maddening.  If anyone has the previous rollback version of the Garmin ANT agent for Mac, please let me know where I can get it.
2. _BUG_when starting V3, it starts up off screen and I have to pull it to the top.  you need to actually grab the top bar area to move the app.
3. _BUG_ any time there is a pop up window, you can't close the alert, and you must shut down the entire program.
4. _BUG_after a ride, the analysis of the power curve returns an error "Maximum number of loops %d exceeded in cp modelextraction"
5. _BUG_many of the analysis windows look funky like the zones arent set up, and things are being graphed on one big ZONE 7, things like that.  All the metrics and analyses that were displayed on V2 suffer from this "disconnection" from HR zones.  its like the data points are floating out there, and the zones are crunched to one side of the other.
6. The ride summary and other screens have very small fonts and alot of white space between the chunks of text.  This space (and others) could be optimized, which would really help with the pull/drag/scroll/resize issues.
1. workout notes metric should add a spot for easily entering your weight.  I dont like to go into my settings every time I drop a few pounds (or gain them back).  It would help me feed good data into the program to track for me.  Bodyfat entry could be good here too.  Default value could be last value entered.
7. UI/UX - in terms of UX personas, I'm a mid-leel user who isnt training for big races or competitions, just personal improvement, love of cycling, and fitness.  I want to start GC, get into realtime, watch the metrics of interest while I ride, and then do some analysis and tracking afterward.  I use my non GPS watch on my bike when indoors, so that I can replicate efforts and performance when outside.  The advanced metrics are helpful, but I am primarily interested in tracking totals, summaries, etc.  I dont use a GPS service, but am very interested in riding routes I have ridden outside, as well as racing.  I usually tweet my rides afterward, and have begun using training peaks (was using Garmin connect and Polar Personal Trainer before).
1. the side drawer thing is very difficult to work with and incredibly confusing.  I realize it is supposed to be a contextual menu, but it just not intuitive.  sometimes it is WAY out there and I have to resize and drag it around.  plus, the realtime controls are in there, which makes it hard to start it, close the drawer, resize the window, get on the bike, and do the workout.  suggest having the drawer as a top-down drawer or move from LR instead of RL, or cut size by 50%+ using MM/DD/YY and better transport controls for realtime.  nice addition, but super frustrating as currently implemented.
2. _BUG_some of the things on top like ATHLETES and MEASURES dont respond, but its alpha.
3. in realtime, there is quite a bit of numerical data all over the place, and the window that plots realtime is still squeezed at the bottom.  I dont know about you all, but I want the realtime graph much BIGGER, and just need power, cadence, speed, HR, time.  I know this is being addressed in customized layouts.
1. possible realtime graph could put the average dashed lines to the right in a small gutter as opposed to cluttering up the entire realtime window.
2. Would it be possible for Realtime to have a 10-20 second countdown before starting?
4. some of the graph labels are very hard to read, for instance the top of the new HrPw display.  it looks cool, but I have no idea what I am looking at.
8. _BUG_The diary metadata should recognize "Bike" and "bike" as being the same thing.  I added this to the list, but it still is acting like it is two different categories.  This leads to funky looking treemaps.
9. _BUG_upload to training peaks sometimes works, sometimes doesnt.  file rejected, then it sometimes works after a restart of the program.
10. Tweet your ride is implemented in a contextual right click, where the training peaks is in the menu.
1. since twitter characters are precious, how about shortening "Average Heart Rate" to "avgHR", with similar shorthand being used for other data selected.  I think having the #goldencheetah tag is very good (does GC have a twitter feed?), but how about a bit.ly link to the website so more people will use/test it?  This will bring big benefits of populated lobbies once racing is up and running. (I'm super excited about racing) -- If no one is maintaining a GoldenCheetah twitter feed, I'm happy to maintain it.
11. In general, it seems like I have alot of data "benchmarks" that arent populating the fields.  Now, I have over 20 rides moved into V3, as well as about 6 V3 rides, and I still dont get my CP, STS, LTS, etc..  filled into some of the fields.  I must confess that I am not sure what alot of these advanced exer-science metrics are, but that doesnt mean Im not willing to track them and learn more about what they mean for my training.
12. summaries and totals.  if anyone ever used the garmin connect SaaS, they did have a pretty nice way to look at your totals for the week, etc.  I was a heavy user of the Polar software (not thePolar SaaS), and they had this simple display.  I like to see how many total calories I burned, and miles I have ridden, as well as time, maybe zones, right there on the edge of the calendar.  We already have a calendar, why not use it to place some pertinent info?
13. Would like the ability to generate power numbers based on my trainer when the ride isnt performed with GC running.  Basically creating a new Power column of data in Editor, based on my speed and the trainer formula.  Since I dont have a power unit, when I ride without GC, I will lose track of all power numbers and tracking.  Even if my data wont be perfect because I'll be out on the road, having some data should be better than no data at all.

Thanks to Gareth for posting this OSX V3 build (sorry I couldn't build it myself, but I tried for an entire weekend with no luck).

[Mark Liversedge]

On Apr 10, 7:08 pm, Brendan <brendantca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since Garmin connect no
> longer works for me, I now rely on GC to upload my data to training peaks (I
> dislike TP so far, or maybe I am not used to it).  I use a Garmin FR60 watch
> - non GPS) to collect ride data when outside, and I also have it running on
> the handlebars when doing indoor rides.  

Keep the faith with TP.com - it has lots of cool features.

>    1. ??_BUG_?? Garmin drivers versus ANT+ drivers and V3 : For me, the

>    bottom line since the Garmin ANT agent update from Feb 4, is that realtime
>    WILL NOT work if using the Garmin drivers.  Using the ANT+ mac drivers
>    (downloaded from ThisIsAnt) makes this work.  However, I lose Garmin ANT
>    agent functionality, which stinks because I only have my watch as a data
>    recorder when I am outside (and the weather is improving here in the US).  I
>    dont know what to say, but ever since the Garmin ANT update, it's been
>    maddening.  If anyone has the previous rollback version of the Garmin ANT
>    agent for Mac, please let me know where I can get it.

I think the bug is with ANT agent, not GC (?). Do the Garmin ANT
compatible drivers present a /dev file ?

>    2. _BUG_when starting V3, it starts up off screen and I have to pull it

>    to the top.  you need to actually grab the top bar area to move the app.

I have never seen this before, seems strange. Can you post a
screenshot to describe this.

>    3. _BUG_ any time there is a pop up window, you can't close the alert,

>    and you must shut down the entire program.

Is this when the preferences dialog is open?

>    4. _BUG_after a ride, the analysis of the power curve returns an error

>    "Maximum number of loops %d exceeded in cp modelextraction"

I suspect that is a problem in v2 too and related to the ride file.
Can you post it so we can take a look?

>    5. _BUG_many of the analysis windows look funky like the zones arent set

>    up, and things are being graphed on one big ZONE 7, things like that.  All
>    the metrics and analyses that were displayed on V2 suffer from this
>    "disconnection" from HR zones.  its like the data points are floating out
>    there, and the zones are crunched to one side of the other.

Have you setup your HR and Power zones in preferences? If so a
screenshot would really help, since again, this is something I have
never seen.

>    6. The ride summary and other screens have very small fonts and alot of

>    white space between the chunks of text.  This space (and others) could be
>    optimized, which would really help with the pull/drag/scroll/resize issues.

You can choose the fonts to use in preferences - appearance. The
summary is certainly the same as v2. I have looked at making the
summary text configurable, maybe soon :)

>       1. workout notes metric should add a spot for easily entering your

>       weight.  I dont like to go into my settings every time I drop a few pounds
>       (or gain them back).  It would help me feed good data into the program to
>       track for me.  Bodyfat entry could be good here too.  Default value could be
>       last value entered.

Measures are not implemented yet, there is some code in there but I
need to think more carefully about how the whole thing should work.

>    7. UI/UX - in terms of UX personas, I'm a mid-leel user who isnt training

>    for big races or competitions, just personal improvement, love of cycling,
>    and fitness.  I want to start GC, get into realtime, watch the metrics of
>    interest while I ride, and then do some analysis and tracking afterward.  I
>    use my non GPS watch on my bike when indoors, so that I can replicate
>    efforts and performance when outside.  The advanced metrics are helpful, but
>    I am primarily interested in tracking totals, summaries, etc.  I dont use a
>    GPS service, but am very interested in riding routes I have ridden outside,
>    as well as racing.  I usually tweet my rides afterward, and have begun using
>    training peaks (was using Garmin connect and Polar Personal Trainer before).

The configurable 'home' window will be used for all toolbar options,
so you should be able to decide what charts etc you want to see
yourself. This will appear just as soon as the 'home' page works well.

>       1. the side drawer thing is very difficult to work with and incredibly

>       confusing.  I realize it is supposed to be a contextual menu, but it just
>       not intuitive.  sometimes it is WAY out there and I have to resize and drag
>       it around.  plus, the realtime controls are in there, which makes it hard to
>       start it, close the drawer, resize the window, get on the bike, and do the
>       workout.  suggest having the drawer as a top-down drawer or move from LR
>       instead of RL, or cut size by 50%+ using MM/DD/YY and better transport
>       controls for realtime.  nice addition, but super frustrating as currently
>       implemented.

The drawer seemed like a good idea at the time but I agree it is
tedious after a while. I think it should be a side pane and the
controls should be context sensitive toolbars. Open to ideas on this.

>       2. _BUG_some of the things on top like ATHLETES and MEASURES dont
>       respond, but its alpha.

They aren't implemented yet.

>       3. in realtime, there is quite a bit of numerical data all over the

>       place, and the window that plots realtime is still squeezed at the bottom.
>        I dont know about you all, but I want the realtime graph much BIGGER, and
>       just need power, cadence, speed, HR, time.  I know this is being addressed
>       in customized layouts.

I've been working on that this weekend and I think you'll be happier
when that gets committed.

>          1. possible realtime graph could put the average dashed lines to

>          the right in a small gutter as opposed to cluttering up the entire realtime
>          window.

Configurable UI should address this.

>          2. Would it be possible for Realtime to have a 10-20 second
>          countdown before starting?

So you can clip in and get ready. Sure. It won't be implemented any
time soon tho. Calibration is higher up the list.

>       4. some of the graph labels are very hard to read, for instance the

>       top of the new HrPw display.  it looks cool, but I have no idea what I am
>       looking at.

You can customise the font. I don't really understand this plot
either, but its an SRMwin thing that some folks understand well.

>    8. _BUG_The diary metadata should recognize "Bike" and "bike" as being

>    the same thing.  I added this to the list, but it still is acting like it is
>    two different categories.  This leads to funky looking treemaps.

Mmmm. Case-insensitive metadata... seems like a good idea, but not
sure. Wonder what other folks think?


>    9. _BUG_upload to training peaks sometimes works, sometimes doesnt.  file

>    rejected, then it sometimes works after a restart of the program.

This must be related to the ride file, TP.com is a bit sensitive to
gaps in recording, would be interested to see a ridefile that fails.

>    10. Tweet your ride is implemented in a contextual right click, where the

>    training peaks is in the menu.

Yes. Why is this an issue?

>       1. since twitter characters are precious, how about shortening

>       "Average Heart Rate" to "avgHR", with similar shorthand being used for other
>       data selected.  I think having the #goldencheetah tag is very good (does GC
>       have a twitter feed?), but how about a bit.ly link to the website so more
>       people will use/test it?  This will bring big benefits of populated lobbies
>       once racing is up and running. (I'm super excited about racing) -- If no one
>       is maintaining a GoldenCheetah twitter feed, I'm happy to maintain it.

Noted about the shortened text. I think it should be possible to edit
the full text before it is posted.

>    11. In general, it seems like I have alot of data "benchmarks" that arent

>    populating the fields.  Now, I have over 20 rides moved into V3, as well as
>    about 6 V3 rides, and I still dont get my CP, STS, LTS, etc..  filled into
>    some of the fields.

I don't understand 'benchmarks' are these metadata fields you filled
in on V2 or are they metrics that are not getting calculated?

> I must confess that I am not sure what alot of these
>    advanced exer-science metrics are, but that doesnt mean Im not willing to
>    track them and learn more about what they mean for my training.

We need contextual help!

>    12. summaries and totals.  if anyone ever used the garmin connect SaaS,

>    they did have a pretty nice way to look at your totals for the week, etc.  I
>    was a heavy user of the Polar software (not thePolar SaaS), and they had
>    this simple display.  I like to see how many total calories I burned, and
>    miles I have ridden, as well as time, maybe zones, right there on the edge
>    of the calendar.  We already have a calendar, why not use it to place some
>    pertinent info?

You are not the first to bring this up. The ride list in the diary
view is good at grouping by different ride metrics/values, but a
tabular data view would be soooo easy to write -- you should add that
as a feature request!

>    13. Would like the ability to generate power numbers based on my trainer

>    when the ride isnt performed with GC running.  Basically creating a new
>    Power column of data in Editor, based on my speed and the trainer formula.

Mmmm.

>     Since I dont have a power unit, when I ride without GC, I will lose track
>    of all power numbers and tracking.  Even if my data wont be perfect because
>    I'll be out on the road, having some data should be better than no data at
>    all.

Mmmm.

> Thanks to Gareth for posting this OSX V3 build (sorry I couldn't build it
> myself, but I tried for an entire weekend with no luck).

Thanks for the feedback. I think the wiki could do with a detailed
'building GC on Win / Linux / Mac' its getting to be quite difficult.

Cheers,
Mark

[Brendan]

>    1. ??_BUG_?? Garmin drivers versus ANT+ drivers and V3 : For me, the
>    bottom line since the Garmin ANT agent update from Feb 4, is that realtime
>    WILL NOT work if using the Garmin drivers.  Using the ANT+ mac drivers
>    (downloaded from ThisIsAnt) makes this work.  However, I lose Garmin ANT
>    agent functionality, which stinks because I only have my watch as a data
>    recorder when I am outside (and the weather is improving here in the US).  I
>    dont know what to say, but ever since the Garmin ANT update, it's been
>    maddening.  If anyone has the previous rollback version of the Garmin ANT
>    agent for Mac, please let me know where I can get it.

I think the bug is with ANT agent, not GC (?). Do the Garmin ANT
compatible drivers present a /dev file ?

garmin drivers dont put anything in /dev  but the ant drivers do 

>    2. _BUG_when starting V3, it starts up off screen and I have to pull it
>    to the top.  you need to actually grab the top bar area to move the app.

I have never seen this before, seems strange. Can you post a
screenshot to describe this.

up left corner is not in up left corner of screen, its in middle. 

>    3. _BUG_ any time there is a pop up window, you can't close the alert,
>    and you must shut down the entire program.

Is this when the preferences dialog is open?

mostly.  happened elsewhere, but cant reproduce right now 

>    4. _BUG_after a ride, the analysis of the power curve returns an error
>    "Maximum number of loops %d exceeded in cp modelextraction"

I suspect that is a problem in v2 too and related to the ride file.
Can you post it so we can take a look?

attached 

>    5. _BUG_many of the analysis windows look funky like the zones arent set
>    up, and things are being graphed on one big ZONE 7, things like that.  All
>    the metrics and analyses that were displayed on V2 suffer from this
>    "disconnection" from HR zones.  its like the data points are floating out
>    there, and the zones are crunched to one side of the other.

Have you setup your HR and Power zones in preferences? If so a
screenshot would really help, since again, this is something I have
never seen.

attached 

I might take a stab with OmniGraffle, but my use cases are: Do a ride, Import/Export a ride, Analyze stuff

>       2. _BUG_some of the things on top like ATHLETES and MEASURES dont
>       respond, but its alpha.

They aren't implemented yet.

>       3. in realtime, there is quite a bit of numerical data all over the
>       place, and the window that plots realtime is still squeezed at the bottom.
>        I dont know about you all, but I want the realtime graph much BIGGER, and
>       just need power, cadence, speed, HR, time.  I know this is being addressed
>       in customized layouts.

I've been working on that this weekend and I think you'll be happier
when that gets committed.

>          1. possible realtime graph could put the average dashed lines to
>          the right in a small gutter as opposed to cluttering up the entire realtime
>          window.

Configurable UI should address this.

>          2. Would it be possible for Realtime to have a 10-20 second
>          countdown before starting?

So you can clip in and get ready. Sure. It won't be implemented any
time soon tho. Calibration is higher up the list.

you mean we will be able to enter our wheel size in prefs. or power calibration?   Isn't the wheel size still hard coded somewhere?  I thought I saw it in the code.

>       4. some of the graph labels are very hard to read, for instance the
>       top of the new HrPw display.  it looks cool, but I have no idea what I am
>       looking at.

You can customise the font. I don't really understand this plot
either, but its an SRMwin thing that some folks understand well.

>    8. _BUG_The diary metadata should recognize "Bike" and "bike" as being
>    the same thing.  I added this to the list, but it still is acting like it is
>    two different categories.  This leads to funky looking treemaps.

Mmmm. Case-insensitive metadata... seems like a good idea, but not
sure. Wonder what other folks think?

added bike to Bike but GC still wont collapse them 

>    9. _BUG_upload to training peaks sometimes works, sometimes doesnt.  file
>    rejected, then it sometimes works after a restart of the program.

This must be related to the ride file, TP.com is a bit sensitive to
gaps in recording, would be interested to see a ridefile that fails.

attached 

>    10. Tweet your ride is implemented in a contextual right click, where the
>    training peaks is in the menu.

Yes. Why is this an issue?

both things are taking GC ride data and sending them to an outside service, but they are in different places.  seems odd.   

>       1. since twitter characters are precious, how about shortening
>       "Average Heart Rate" to "avgHR", with similar shorthand being used for other
>       data selected.  I think having the #goldencheetah tag is very good (does GC
>       have a twitter feed?), but how about a bit.ly link to the website so more
>       people will use/test it?  This will bring big benefits of populated lobbies
>       once racing is up and running. (I'm super excited about racing) -- If no one
>       is maintaining a GoldenCheetah twitter feed, I'm happy to maintain it.

Noted about the shortened text. I think it should be possible to edit
the full text before it is posted.

>    11. In general, it seems like I have alot of data "benchmarks" that arent
>    populating the fields.  Now, I have over 20 rides moved into V3, as well as
>    about 6 V3 rides, and I still dont get my CP, STS, LTS, etc..  filled into
>    some of the fields.

I don't understand 'benchmarks' are these metadata fields you filled
in on V2 or are they metrics that are not getting calculated?

not being claculated 

> I must confess that I am not sure what alot of these
>    advanced exer-science metrics are, but that doesnt mean Im not willing to
>    track them and learn more about what they mean for my training.

We need contextual help!

>    12. summaries and totals.  if anyone ever used the garmin connect SaaS,
>    they did have a pretty nice way to look at your totals for the week, etc.  I
>    was a heavy user of the Polar software (not thePolar SaaS), and they had
>    this simple display.  I like to see how many total calories I burned, and
>    miles I have ridden, as well as time, maybe zones, right there on the edge
>    of the calendar.  We already have a calendar, why not use it to place some
>    pertinent info?

You are not the first to bring this up. The ride list in the diary
view is good at grouping by different ride metrics/values, but a
tabular data view would be soooo easy to write -- you should add that
as a feature request!

>    13. Would like the ability to generate power numbers based on my trainer
>    when the ride isnt performed with GC running.  Basically creating a new
>    Power column of data in Editor, based on my speed and the trainer formula.

Mmmm.

otherwise it might be : record to garmin FR60, import to TP,  export from TP as csv, inport into excel, calc power, import into GC, re-export to TP

WHEW!

>     Since I dont have a power unit, when I ride without GC, I will lose track
>    of all power numbers and tracking.  Even if my data wont be perfect because
>    I'll be out on the road, having some data should be better than no data at
>    all.

Mmmm.

> Thanks to Gareth for posting this OSX V3 build (sorry I couldn't build it
> myself, but I tried for an entire weekend with no luck).

Thanks for the feedback. I think the wiki could do with a detailed
'building GC on Win / Linux / Mac' its getting to be quite difficult.

Even with a weekend of email instructions and hand holding from Jamie, I could not build it.  Maddening. 

Cheers,
Mark

I'd like to try racing with someone.  anyone care to join me?