Setting Wahoo Kickr up

[Clint Legg]

Hello all, I am new to Golden Cheetah and just got the Wahoo Kickr, looking to set it up.  I am on a Mac and have an Ant+ USB2 but also have BTLE.  I have had some success setting up via Ant+ but the BTLE seems more stable (as I get all the data on the iPhone) and on the mac the speed is erratic...  Can GC connect to the Kickr with BTLE?  There is no setting on add a device that is BT.  I have been searching the users guide and online, but no luck.  I would appreciate any suggestion / help.

I am running OSX 10.9.4 and the Kickr is firmware 1.2.2 and the Hardware is a mac air (confirmed BT 4.0)

Thank you.

[Mark Liversedge]

Kickr support will not be available till 3.11 is released.

We will only support via ANT+ since BTLE cross-platform is weak, notable Windows and to a lesser degree Linux.

I would recommend taking a look at TrainerRoad its excellent.

Mark

[Julian]

If you're looking for a free alternative to all the paid software (kinomap, TrainerRoad, etc) to bide your time until GC 3.11 is released take a look at veloreality. The software is free and they sell videos with sync'ed elevation profiles. Ride files are saved and can be imported to GC later...

[cycling penguin]

Count me in for KICKR support over BTLE. I'll be ordering mine soon and would love to be able to use a trainer on Linux. +WahooFitness did a good thing for the industry with BTLE and being quite open about support for as much as possible.  I haven't installed GC yet but would love to see free and paid videos with integrated resistance and would be happy to try and contribute a ride video or two or three or more! Adding a GoPro to my toy collection next year.

[Mark Liversedge]

We only support connectivity via ANT+, at least until Windows support for BTLE is reliable and robust.

The code is in the development releases but is also dependant on Wahoo firmware that is not released yet.

As soon as its out I will send a message to the list to let everyone know :)

Mark

[cycling penguin]

You just put "Windows, reliable, and robust" in the same sentence. I'll refrain ;-) But do look forward to the eventual support, even if 'beta'.

[Simon Brewer]

Hi Mark,

thanks for your work on GC.  It is really excellent software.

I have been curious about something.  Trainerroad can control the Kickr using ANT+ in Windows.  What is in the Kickr Beta firmware update that prevents GC from doing the same?

[Mark Liversedge]

On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 02:16:45 UTC+1, Simon Brewer wrote:

I have been curious about something.  Trainerroad can control the Kickr using ANT+ in Windows.  What is in the Kickr Beta firmware update that prevents GC from doing the same?

The original ANT+ support used ANT+ burst mode and they have changed it to use a separate command channel at higher rates (16hz). We opted to support the newer approach as burst mode isn't a good solution for us (our ANT stack will need a fixup for it).

We don't use ANY proprietary code; our ANT/ANT+ stack is our own, our Wahoo support is our own.

As an open source project this is kind of the way it is for us, where TrainerRoad are 'lucky' in that they can use the SDKs from Wahoo and Dynastream without worrying about licenses and tainted code.

We DO support the USBXPress libs on Windows, but that was a platform issue with the old USB1 stick. We could deprecate it to be a little more 'purist' but sometimes you just have to eat the porridge.

I like to think that Richard Stallman would be proud of us ;)

Mark 

[Christian Charette]

I hope they sort out the firmware issue that they currently have and that I can upgrade my firmware because so far all the new beta firmware are not playing nicely with my version of Kickr.. even 1.3.22 that was just released.

I was really hopping to be able to use GC for my training this coming season, but it looks like I will have to go back to TrainerRoad.

Christian

[Julian]

I'm eagerly awaiting KICKR implementation in GC but until that day comes I've had to look elsewhere.

I landed on VeloReality's software: veloreality.com

It's free and installs on Windows or Mac under a virtual machine or boot camp.  It can also be run off an external drive.  It interacts with the KICKR and essentially does everything that GC does.  The files are exported and can be imported to GC easily.

They sell HD erg videos that will control the KICKR's resistance in accordance with the video.  They're really high quality and very reasonably priced and certainly mix up the monotony of the trainer.  

-J