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On Jun 14, 2020, at 4:43 PM, 'Axel Wagner' via golang-nuts <golan...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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Equating not supporting this and supporting marginalized groups is not correct. You can support marginalized groups all day and disagree on how best to do so. It doesn’t have to be political at all.
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All I pointed out was that someone objecting to this may not be doing based on political party affiliations.
Hi,
I have a non-profit I'd like to support. Who do I ask to put a banner
on golang.org for me?
(reductio ad absurdum)
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I'm sorry, I think this trivializes real concerns that impact a significant number of people. It is not hard to imagine a setting in many major cities around a world where a banner like this appearing during a presentation or training session could cause problems. I am not the source or enforcer of such rules -- but I am responsible for ensuring I comply with them.I don't know where you live or work or travel but is in insensitive to dismiss this as a non-issue for everyone that uses go. To the extent it is an issue it's a local legal issue. In that way the go code of conduct isn't the primary concern.
It's not difficult to imagine banners like "free (some geographic place)" or "remember (someone or some date)" causing severe problems.
This banner differs only in degree of risk.
It increases the risk of a problem by some non-0 amount.
This isn't about agreeing or disagreeing with the sentiments. It's about not wanting to think about it when consulting technical documentation.
As an aside it is not nice to be told my concerns are trivial. I'm concerned. I'm not the only person on this list that has expressed concerns. That should be enough for the issue to be taken seriously (regardless of outcome).
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 17:23 Axel Wagner <axel.wa...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Can you be more specific about how this is a real issue? Like, do you have precedent, where a banner-ad was the reason someone who linked to a page for unrelated reasons was prosecuted? Would be interesting to have some real cases so we get a clear picture of the threat here.
Because to be clear, the reason I am trivializing this, is because I believe it to be trivial. I can make up all kinds of laws and speculate around how what you may say is violating them. NBut just because it's laws I make wild claims about doesn't actually make the problems I talk about real.
Please keep posts limited to things about go.
Ok. I live in Singapore. Here is a statement from the Singapore Police Force directly telling foreigners not to advocate for political causes or risk being deported:Is that concrete enough?
I would not want any banners that could appear to be political to appear on my screen while giving a public talk.
I do not want any such banners anywhere near any documentation I might send to a colleague or client. I want 0 risk of these things happening. I do not think it is fair to equate this to orcs and wizards.