FYI: HN Comments on the present tool

[Miki Tebeka]

Greetings,

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5860191

From the comments:

The content of the slides is good/informative.. but the UI for the slides is terrible.

All the best,

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Miki

[Dave Cheney]

If I had a dollar for how much I care about random HN comments, I'd
have zero dollars.

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[minux]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Miki Tebeka <miki....@gmail.com> wrote:

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5860191

From the comments:

The content of the slides is good/informative.. but the UI for the slides is terrible.

Simply stating the UI is terrible won't make it better,

if you agree with that comment, please give some details on why it's terrible and

how do you think we can make it better.

Or better, just dive in and enhance it (please discuss your UI before sending CLs

though), this is how open source works.

[Nico]

On 11/06/13 14:55, Miki Tebeka wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5860191
>
> From the comments:
>
> The content of the slides is good/informative.. but the UI for the
> slides is terrible.

I got surprised when I first read this comment, because I thought it was
meant about the Go tour.

The comment is actually about the UI of the following slides:

http://bazil.org/talks/2013-06-10-la-gophers/#1

[Péter Szilágyi]

Actually, the comment (as the others from hn) referred to the present tool in general. They do have one point of not knowing how to advance the slides (I've been told by others the same for my slides that I've sent only in email), but imho it shouldn't be *that* hard for a computer engineer to figure it out. Additionally if you've already seen at least one such presentation (even if just presented by someone else), then it becomes almost obvious.

So, bottom line, yes it has a "learning curve", but I won't have sleepless nights over a few people who waste 3 full seconds until they figure out the solution. :P

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[Aram Hăvărneanu]

The present tool is a tool for people giving talks. They are the
users of the tool. It's analogous to Powerpoint and Keynote, except
it's easier to use, at least for a programmer. It's text, so it can
be versioned controlled, processed by Unix tools, etc. It's also
particularly useful for giving Go talks.

The people that see the slides are not the users of the tool. The
people writing talks and delivering them are. Because the tool
produces HTML slides, they are very easy to share with an audience,
but the audience is only a passive, secondary user. The presenter
is the the primary user of the tool.

Tools like this require an invisible interface when delivering the
talk. It is not a webpage, it is a special tool. The reasons should
be obvious, but it seems some people have a hard time understating
this. Every other tool like this has invisible controls and nobody
complains about that, but somehow they complain now, because it's
HTML.

The invisible interface used by the present tool is standard across
these types of tools, and very obvious in my opinion. If you can't
figure this out I doubt you are in the target audience of the talk,
so I will make no effort in explaining these things.

There are arguments to me made in making the output more tablet
friendly. I will never deliver a talk from a tablet so I don't care,
but I will support whatever effort being made by other people. I'm
talking about code here, talk is cheap.

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Aram Hăvărneanu

[Miki Tebeka]

On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 7:00:14 AM UTC-7, minux wrote:

Simply stating the UI is terrible won't make it better,

The complaints are not mine, I just pointed out that there is are some and though maybe the present authors will find them useful.

For some people the first information about Go comes from such presentations, and we can make their life easier.