Will Go be discontinued?

[Starfish]

Hello!

Every Google service I use and like seems to get pulled.

Recently Google announced the retirement of Reader, iGoogle, Talk and Latitude.

What guaranties can you give about Go?

Will Rob, Andrew and the others be funded to continue this project?

Go is open source of course, but without Google I think it will die. 

A statement of intent from Google would be in order.

[Archos]

It Go becomes discontinued, then it means that it is was not powerful or useful enough to be used in Google.

[Kevin D]

Someone can elaborate more than I can, but Go will never be killed off by Google. Go is an open source project, worked on by many many people outside of Google.

[adnaan badr]

Ok ,How do you go about killing Go at Google?

1. You find the 5-6 people inside google currently working on Go and tell them: Get a real job!

2. Shutter down the Go website and take back all the gbees of server Go is eating up.

3. Then you round up rest of more than a thousand Go committers and threaten them to stop working on Go.

Even Google wont go to such ridiculous lengths to save money. In fact Google must be saving 10x  the money just from the dl.google.com project  written in Go.

In summary. Not likely to be killed off

[Andrew Gerrand]

Google has already made a significant investment in Go, and the rate of Go adoption inside Google is increasing. We have graphs and everything!

I'm not worried about Google losing interest in Go. But even so, I think that as an open source project Go would continue to flourish even without Google's help.

Andrew

[Alexandre Fiori]

Assumptions...

[Alonso Harn]

The problem with this thread is that it assumes that Go will simply die without Google.

While it is true that Go wouldn't have gotten to where it is now without Google's visionaries moving it along, it has certainly picked up enough momentum to continue to thrive on its own.

(Can you even "discontinue" an open source programming language?)

Another problem with this thread is that it's comparing apples to oranges. Go isn't actually a service. Go wouldn't need to drain server resources the way those discontinued services would have done. Most importantly, Go can never become a failed project or a blemish on the company such that it would need to be "pulled" in the first place. Why? Because Go is just too awesome. (That's an opinion, but it's also a fact.)

Besides, Go isn't going anywhere anytime soon. It's not going to just randomly disappear one day. It works. If it ever stops working, we'll fix it, as a community.

Because it's worth it.

[tomwilde]

This article might give you a hint on how valuable Go and its team are to Google:

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/07/gopher/

[Sebastien Douche]

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Andrew Gerrand <a...@golang.org> wrote:
> Google has already made a significant investment in Go, and the rate of Go
> adoption inside Google is increasing. We have graphs and everything!

It might be cool to share the graphs.



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[Aram Hăvărneanu]

> Will Go be discontinued?

No.

[al...@lx.lc]

Go is not a service, it's an open source programming language.  While there is little doubt that Go would not exist if not for Google's sponsorship, you can't just 'kill' an open source project - especially one with so many people involved.  Some of the greatest minds in programming came together to hash out Go, which in part is what drew other great minds to the language.  If, tomorrow, Google pulled the plug on its sponsorship - rest assured the language would survive.  From there, it may fragment into nonexistence, lose interest, etc... but that's speculation. 
After all, C and C++ are doing just fine with or without Bell Labs/ATT.

On Sunday, July 28, 2013 1:25:11 PM UTC-4, Starfish wrote:

[Andrew Gerrand]

On 29 July 2013 23:47, Sebastien Douche <sdo...@gmail.com> wrote:

It might be cool to share the graphs.

It would be very cool, but I can't.

Andrew

[Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan]

Hi,

Can someone tell me which project this is? Any links?

Thanks

dharani

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[Michael Jones]

http://golang.org

[Jim Robinson]

On Sunday, July 28, 2013 4:39:40 PM UTC-7, Andrew Gerrand wrote:

Google has already made a significant investment in Go, and the rate of Go adoption inside Google is increasing. We have graphs and everything!

I'm not worried about Google losing interest in Go. But even so, I think that as an open source project Go would continue to flourish even without Google's help.

 My fear would be fragmentation of the language as people spin off to implement support for concepts like generics.  I think that without a strong competent core of developers to steer the ship you end up designing things by committee and deciding on things based on who yells the loudest.

[Paul]

In all honesty I think thats the wrong question. 

I've been thinking exactly the opposite: when is another major Software Vendor going to jump on and invest.  

I am sure Go would be a very good fit for at least one other major software vendor.  I just don't know what it would take to make it happen.  It will usually take some open minded talks and partnering on the SVP level. 

Recently Go has been really growing up, its getting mature enough so that it may garner serious interest in other quarters. I especially like the work that has been gong on in the performance department. You can have the best concepts in the world, but they will be no good without a high-quality performance implementation. I think Go recently is showing to be getting there. 

Up to about  2005 SAP invested heavily into Java. Many influential oldtimers inside of SAP (guys who grew up programming assembler and later C++) thought that was a huge mistake and got seriously discusted...   

On Sunday, July 28, 2013 7:25:11 PM UTC+2, Starfish wrote:

[Francesc Campoy Flores]

We can't share internal data, but this can show a little bit the rate of adoption of Go outside of Google.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=golang#q=golang&cmpt=q

It doesn't look like people are losing interest :-)

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[John C.]

The regional map and especially list of cities provide food for thought.

[quarnster]

Go Sweden Go! ;)

/f

[Carlos Jimenez]

I think it will be discontinued soon

The average lifespan of a discontinued Google product is 4 years and 1 month. so should be a matter of months maybe 2.0 will be the last one before shutdown

[Amnon]

On Monday, 25 July 2022 at 19:48:24 UTC+1 Carlos Jimenez wrote:

I think it will be discontinued soon

The average lifespan of a discontinued Google product is 4 years and 1 month. so should be a matter of months maybe 2.0 will be the last one before shutdown

The average lifespan may be 4 years 1 month. But there is a massive standard deviation. Some google products (such as Search) seem to have a very much longer lifespan.
The mean lifespan of a product is massively skewed by the many experimental products which fail fast.

This thread was started in 2013.  has been dormant for 9 years. But Go has been anything but....
Will Go be discontinued in a matter of months? As Neils Bohr once said, "Predictions are difficult, especially concerning the future".
And never more so than it today's turbulent world. But if I was a betting man, I would not put money on Go being discontinued any times soon,
(though perhaps I should, as a hedge against my career being disrupted).

Anyway let's check back in a few months time and see if we are still here...

[Ehioje Henry Erabor]

This should be a big joke right?

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[Richard Haven]

Yeah, and GMail and Google Search: their days are numbered

[Kamil Ziemian]

If Google stop developing Go, I think we just need to fork main repo and start United Gophers Foundation. :D

[Axel Wagner]

This thread has been resurrected after 9 years of inactivity. From what I can tell, there is no reason to do so now.

In particular, the quoted 4 years have passed three times over since the original open sourcing of Go, so they are clearly irrelevant.

Let dead threads rest in peace.

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[Victor Giordano]

This is first quality human material! Thanks for reviving it!!!