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Alex Zuzin

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Sep 27, 2011, 1:09:06 PM9/27/11
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David, 

  no worries, all good - thanks for starting it in the first place!

  I'm doing something of the nature of a social network. Stambecco is a shoe-in, and I would prefer it over Akka for features, compactness and design style. I'd gladly use it provided I won't end up stuck with a custom build of an EOL library :).

  I'd contribute as well if that'd help the project carry on. So far I've updated the code base for Lift 2.4-M4 with SBT 0.11. I was also going to add Record-Squeryl support, and use Redis PubSub instead of RabbitMQ.

  Please let me know your stance. If you'd rather people use Akka, that'd be good to know too (your latest public opinion on this that I could track down is over a year old.)

Thank you,
- z

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    Alexz <carn...@gmail.com> Sep 26 06:05PM -0700 ^
     
    Hi,
     
    wondering the status of support for Stambecco now and going
    forward? It seems to have been quite for over a year.
     
    Thank you and kind regards,
    - alexz

     

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David Pollak

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Sep 27, 2011, 1:36:35 PM9/27/11
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Alex Zuzin <carn...@gmail.com> wrote:
David, 

  no worries, all good - thanks for starting it in the first place!

  I'm doing something of the nature of a social network. Stambecco is a shoe-in, and I would prefer it over Akka for features, compactness and design style. I'd gladly use it provided I won't end up stuck with a custom build of an EOL library :).

Heh... I can't promise that Stambecco isn't already EOL, but if you inject some energy into the project, I think it could pick up some users.
 

  I'd contribute as well if that'd help the project carry on. So far I've updated the code base for Lift 2.4-M4 with SBT 0.11. I was also going to add Record-Squeryl support, and use Redis PubSub instead of RabbitMQ.

Sounds like useful additions.  Do you want commit rights?
 

  Please let me know your stance. If you'd rather people use Akka, that'd be good to know too (your latest public opinion on this that I could track down is over a year old.)

I came out publicly that people should use Akka over Stambecco at last year's Scala Lift Off.  This was part of an agreement that Jonas and I had about starting a Lift/Akka company together.  That, well, didn't turn out the way I had expected it to. ;-)

I think that Stambecco has a lot of interesting ideas in it and the remoting work I did for Stambecco (it's in a private repo and the code is horribly ugly) proved, at least to me, that Stambecco's core concepts work well in a distributed environment.  And the last time I spent material time with Akka (circa 1.1 days), Akka struck me as a hodge-podge of concepts that didn't lend themselves to distributed stuff very easily.

With all that being said, I do not have a lot of time to contribute code to Stambecco.  I'll gladly dig out the private repo and publish it.  I'll also be happy to participate in Stambecco-related discussions.  But I don't have the time or inclination to "own" the project.  If, however, you want to become the lead sled dog for the project, I'll happily be a cheerleader.

What do you think?

Thanks,

David

Alexz

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Sep 27, 2011, 4:48:43 PM9/27/11
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On Sep 27, 10:36 am, David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> With all that being said, I do not have a lot of time to contribute code to
> Stambecco.  I'll gladly dig out the private repo and publish it.  I'll also
> be happy to participate in Stambecco-related discussions.  But I don't have
> the time or inclination to "own" the project.  If, however, you want to
> become the lead sled dog for the project, I'll happily be a cheerleader.
>
> What do you think?

If you provide advice and a cheer like you say, I'm going to take it
on.
Stambecco deserves to live long and prosper ;)
Please do dig out that private repo when you have an opportunity.
What are the legal concerns, if any?
Would you mind if the project was moved to Github, it now being sort
of the open source default?

Thanks,
- alexz

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> Thanks,
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> David
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> > Thank you,
> > - z
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> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:56 AM, <goat-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> >>   Today's Topic Summary
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> >> Group:http://groups.google.com/group/goat-rodeo/topics
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> >>    - Is the project alive?<#132abea60ecc4089_132ab9a4ae1fd7b7_group_thread_0>[2 Updates]
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> >>   Topic: Is the project alive?<http://groups.google.com/group/goat-rodeo/t/4ec8edf4f08fdeaa>
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> >>    Alexz <carna...@gmail.com> Sep 26 06:05PM -0700 ^<#132abea60ecc4089_132ab9a4ae1fd7b7_digest_top>
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> >>    Hi,
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> >>    wondering the status of support for Stambecco now and going
> >>    forward? It seems to have been quite for over a year.
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> >>    Thank you and kind regards,
> >>    - alexz
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> >>    David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com> Sep 26 07:37PM -0700 ^<#132abea60ecc4089_132ab9a4ae1fd7b7_digest_top>
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> >>    > Hi,
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> >>    > wondering the status of support for Stambecco now and going
> >>    > forward? It seems to have been quite for over a year.
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> >>    There's be no use of Stambecco, so we haven't done work on the
> >>    project.
> >>    Sorry.
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David Pollak

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Sep 27, 2011, 5:10:18 PM9/27/11
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Alexz <carn...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 27, 10:36 am, David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> With all that being said, I do not have a lot of time to contribute code to
> Stambecco.  I'll gladly dig out the private repo and publish it.  I'll also
> be happy to participate in Stambecco-related discussions.  But I don't have
> the time or inclination to "own" the project.  If, however, you want to
> become the lead sled dog for the project, I'll happily be a cheerleader.
>
> What do you think?

If you provide advice and a cheer like you say, I'm going to take it
on.

Awesome!
 
Stambecco deserves to live long and prosper ;)

Yay!
 
Please do dig out that private repo when you have an opportunity.
What are the legal concerns, if any?

The code is Apache 2.0.  I'm not going to get all lawyer-y on the code.  I'll just add you as a repository owner and you can do whatever you want.
 
Would you mind if the project was moved to Github, it now being sort
of the open source default?

Just created https://github.com/stambecco/stambecco  I even added my private goat repository so you can see the full distributed stuff in action.

Just give me your github ID and you'll be a co-owner of the project.

Rock on!

David



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Alexz

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Sep 27, 2011, 6:17:22 PM9/27/11
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On Sep 27, 2:10 pm, David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Alexz <carna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 27, 10:36 am, David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> The code is Apache 2.0.  I'm not going to get all lawyer-y on the code.
>  I'll just add you as a repository owner and you can do whatever you want.

Awesome!

> Just createdhttps://github.com/stambecco/stambecco I even added my private
> goat repository so you can see the full distributed stuff in action.
>
> Just give me your github ID and you'll be a co-owner of the project.

I'm zvozin - thanks!
Any time you have time to read and/or critique the code - by all
means, I love me some advice from a more experienced man.
Ditto for any other project-related advice.

> Rock on!

Will do. :)

> David

- z

David Pollak

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Sep 27, 2011, 6:27:16 PM9/27/11
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Alexz <carn...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sep 27, 2:10 pm, David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Alexz <carna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 27, 10:36 am, David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> The code is Apache 2.0.  I'm not going to get all lawyer-y on the code.
>  I'll just add you as a repository owner and you can do whatever you want.

Awesome!

> Just createdhttps://github.com/stambecco/stambecco I even added my private
> goat repository so you can see the full distributed stuff in action.
>
> Just give me your github ID and you'll be a co-owner of the project.

I'm zvozin - thanks!

You're added as an owner!
 
Any time you have time to read and/or critique the code - by all
means, I love me some advice from a more experienced man.
Ditto for any other project-related advice.

Sure thing.
 

> Rock on!

Will do. :)

Are you San Francisco based?

Thanks,

David
 

> David

- z


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Viktor Hedefalk

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Sep 28, 2011, 3:09:17 AM9/28/11
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Cool stuff!

While your at it, can't you name it back to Goat Rodeo? I frickin'
loved that name :D

Cheers,
Viktor

David Pollak

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Sep 28, 2011, 8:47:33 AM9/28/11
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I have a fondness for Goat Rodeo as well... Alex... what do you think?

Tyler Weir

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Sep 28, 2011, 9:27:33 AM9/28/11
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I think GoatRodeo is a *great* name.  

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Alexz

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Sep 28, 2011, 1:14:15 PM9/28/11
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Gentleman, pleasure to hear from the all - feels good to know David
and myself aren't the only ones still hanging around :)).

I don't mind Goat Rodeo at all - as a Russian, it's a mouthful, but
with attitude, and attitude trumps convenience. If anyone else is
listening, speak your peace now, or as of tomorrow morning Goat Rodeo
rides again.

Also, I'd like to put out a call for inputs into a probable 6 - 9
month roadmap.

Personally I prefer to skimp on the features and go large on short
learning curve and production readiness - clean APIs, solid tutorials,
good examples, minimal deployment costs. My immediate work will be for
my current project, which will entail (to recap):

- update to Lift 2.4 and SBT 0.11
- migrate from Mapper to Squeryl-Record
- introduce Redis PubSub for distributed - thanks again David for
sharing your distributed work!

Virtual beer for your thoughts, everyone.

Thank you,
- alexz

P.S. David, I am SF-based indeed. Can I buy you a beer and pick your
brain whenever you have time?


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> I think GoatRodeo is a *great* name.  
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> On 2011-09-28, at 8:47 AM, David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I have a fondness for Goat Rodeo as well... Alex... what do you think?
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> > On Sep 28, 2011 5:20 AM, "Viktor Hedefalk" <hedef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Cool stuff!
>
> > > While your at it, can't you name it back to Goat Rodeo? I frickin'
> > > loved that name :D
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> > > Cheers,
> > > Viktor
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James L. Cain IV

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Sep 28, 2011, 1:24:16 PM9/28/11
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I like the sound of that!

Jay Cain

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