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Carvalho

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Jan 8, 2025, 3:56:36 PM1/8/25
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Dear members,

Please do give me your best interpretations of this phrase from a late-19th century document. It relates to someone accused of running away from Bombay moneylenders, with just his pants on, but what does judia (Jew??) mean in this instance? It's obviously a derisive phrase.

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selma

JOHN DE FIGUEIREDO

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Jan 8, 2025, 4:28:23 PM1/8/25
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It is probably "judi" which in Konkani means "jacket.'
John

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cristiana bastos

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Jan 8, 2025, 5:02:54 PM1/8/25
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"tipo de capa curta e com enfeites, em voga no século XIX" dicionario Porto Editora 
"Tipo de capa mourisca, mais curta e mais enfeitada, usada no séc. XIX." Houaiss & priberam 
It is a piece of clothing: a short cape with some decoration which was fashionable in the 19th century. 
So your character was on the run with just his pants and a short cape 

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Tensing Rodrigues

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Jan 9, 2025, 12:43:48 AM1/9/25
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judia means coat.

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John de Figueiredo

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Jan 9, 2025, 12:43:58 AM1/9/25
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Even less dressed than I thought!
John
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António Colaço

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Jan 9, 2025, 12:44:21 AM1/9/25
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Jews were known to be moneylenders. As such it would be advisable to send the whole phrase where the term 'judia' is exposed in order to detect its real meaning.
ABColaço   



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Tensing Rodrigues

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Jan 9, 2025, 3:13:58 AM1/9/25
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Yes, it could be a cape; need not be a coat. In common parlance, 'judi' is still used in Salcete to mean a coat of a suit - 'kalsanv ani judi'.

Carvalho

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Jan 9, 2025, 3:14:10 AM1/9/25
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Dear all,

Thank you very much indeed. Cape, it is, then.

warmest wishes,
selma


Sonia Gomes

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Jan 9, 2025, 3:49:48 AM1/9/25
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Absolutely used in Salcete, my Father said it often


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