Once again democracy prevailed in India.

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Pedro Mascarenhas

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Jun 5, 2024, 11:00:36 AMJun 5
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Once again democracy prevailed in India. 

Around 642 million people, more than 10% of the world's population, were able to vote after the polls opened in mid-April, with an average turnout of around 66% across the seven phases. Lok Sabha election India set a world record.

The entire counting process was described as "absolutely robust," and all issues raised by multi-party delegations were addressed.

Over 68,000 monitoring teams and 1.5 crore polling and security personnel were involved and over 90% of 495 complaints of Model Code of Conduct violations disposed during elections. 
Some 642 million people cast their vote in the world’s largest election, as swathes of the country was blanketed in searing heat, making people sick and killing dozens.

India, the country of 1.4 billion people has become the world’s fastest-growing major economy and a modern global power, making strides in technology and space. Yet, despite these successes, poverty and youth unemployment persist – particularly in rural areas – and the wealth gap has widened.

Goa: Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader Shripad Naik won the North Goa Lok Sabha seat for the sixth consecutive term on Tuesday, while Congress-led Indian National Developmental Inclusive Alliance (INDIA) candidate Viriato Fernandes succeeded in retaining the party’s South Goa parliamentary seat.

Many watchdogs have categorised India as a "hybrid regime" that is neither a full democracy nor a full autocracy.

 


Joao Paulo Cota

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Jun 5, 2024, 12:58:55 PMJun 5
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The only democratic process in India is the election process, where people vote.
Even that is probably rigged with fiddling of EVM's.
After the newly elected members take their place, then the system automatically switches from democracy to full autocracy, where the big man tells everyone what to do, with zero accountability given.
One can only guess how much money and power changed hands to get Chandrababu to support Modi, a person he completely hates. 
Good thing that a Dempo operative did not win against my ex-Engico class mate in South Goa, else it would had been another Adani type rise for the Goan business.
The world needs India for business but people do laugh behind their back, at the nonsense going on there - the sheer corruption at beyond astronomical levels, the airports springing up everywhere, the temples, the statues, etc. 
It is all about impressing, a game where the poor get poorer and the planets reached increase by the day.
Complete disparity on so much, that it is impossible to list.



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Pedro Mascarenhas

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Jun 6, 2024, 8:00:08 AMJun 6
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Are you saying that with the manipulation of EVMs, Modi -NDA- saw his power diminish? And Rahul and Viriato gain the MP seats? 

Do you, living abroad, know more than Rahul Gandhi and Parliament-elect Captain Viriato Fernandes (Goa)? So why didn't they protest?

I understand the desperation of some abroad. They do not present any evidence of cheating.

Your class mate Viriato fully believes in Indian democracy, which is why he ran for MP and served in the Indian armed forces with great pride. India: Fifth largest economy in the world, in addition to being a space and nuclear power.

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Nuno Cardoso da Silva

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Pedro, 
 
Since you seem to be under the impression that Portuguese people in general dislike and discriminate against people from India, I would like to remind you that there are almost 35,000 Indian citizens legally living in Portugal, as well as nearly 25,000 Nepalese, who are mostly Hindu. Not to mention the 20,000 Goans who are Portuguese citizens and live in Portugal. There may be occasional manifestations of racism from some idiotic Portuguese in respect of those people, but generally speaking we respect them, easily associate with them and respect their hard work and contribution to our country's prosperity. We know Indian civilization is about 5,000 years old, that it is highly developed, and most of us sincerely respect it. The Hindu temple in Lisbon is visited by many Portuguese people who would like to know more about the Indian culture and civilization. So, please be assured that our feelings about India, India's culture, Indian immigrants in Portugal, and Portuguese citizens of Indian descent, is most positive. We might have dealt better with Goa and Goans before 1961, but I doubt that would have made any difference to India's ambition to take over Goa.
 
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Nuno
 
 
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Frederick Noronha

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Jun 6, 2024, 7:04:26 PMJun 6
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As far as the EVMs go, they are still suspect, 'black boxes' and no one but a small clique knows how the machines work or who (technically) controls these machines.

Until the source code is made publicly auditable, and we know who has access to these machines and under what conditions (to load candidates' names, symbols etc), the EVMs will continue to be suspect.

The Election Commission's obstinate reluctance to be transparent on this is incomprehensible. So is the Supreme Court's lack of understanding of how Open Source Software works, and the security and easy-correctability this offers.

The debate over the EVMs is far from over, even if political parties tend to have a very short term view over this.

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Joao Paulo Cota

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Jun 9, 2024, 10:19:00 PMJun 9
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Modi's power diminished as his corrupt party could not fiddle EVM's in 2024 as they did in 2019 elections.
The ECI chiefs who left, do you really think they just disappeared out of their own free will? Or were they told to leave?
Viriato, myself and the Engico class of 91 have a Facebook page. It is full of BJP and RSS guys, hence I have left as I can't stand these fundamentalists - they were not like that in 1991. Viriato stood and contested but as Congress.
He did contest and so did Rahul to try save the country from this almighty corruption and other scams that the ruling party lives on.
India was a nuclear power before the BJP came to power and the space programs too were initiated decades ago, they just did not happened because of the BJP. They would had happened if Congress would had been in power in 2019.
It is rather pathetic of people to vote for a party that favours the rich, gives them a free reign to loot in the name of progress. Then share the spoils with the ruling party, where electoral bonds are a way of blackmailing small businesses into financing the party, as well as cancelling investigations to those in the opposition who want to join in the club.
It is a bit of a copy-paste of the Putin-Oligarch setup that his mate from the north has cemented to stay on in power till he is 6' under.
The web of deceit, corruption, manipulation, etc. by the BJP is beyond anyone's imagination.
Hence they had lost a lot of votes this time because the opposition was awake and because the SC under the able Dr Justice Chandrachud was watching too and put right what was wrong. Possibly too because the youth make up about 25% of the population and many are unemployed - which is unacceptable as India has a high growth rate. 
Who benefits then?
Sadly we have shameful politicians like Chandrababu Naidu who will support an enemy, having left the opposition alliance.
The same man who came to London for a meeting when CM and his large entourage flew in a lady employee whose only job was to cut an apple into slices and serve him at the meeting. This is the sheer level of abuse of power who might prefer the BJP way of life than the disciplined Congress way.
Viriato has always been a man with his head on his shoulder and he does not tolerate nonsense. He won't defect like these other Congress clowns did at MLA level.
Hope the opposition puts this minority government into its tracks on policies for the next term.
Elections might be won, but the party is over for the BJP in the next five years.

Please read the articles below, Indians and Goans overseas rely on such unbiased, independent and ungagged news for information.
If you live in India, then you will be served doctored news, as per the directives of the dictator in Delhi.
They thought they could control the ECI but the SC put them in their tracks.
Ashoka University scholar Sabyasachi Das's paper, 'Democratic Backsliding in the World’s Largest Democracy,' has led to conversations in some circles and outrage in others. But the rot is deeper.

Just a few days before the announcement of the general elections, election commissioner Arun Goel resigned. Ashok Lavasa, who was appointed an EC in 2018, gave several dissenting notes on the issue of PM Modi and Amit Shah’s alleged infringement of the campaigning rules in the 2019 election. He resigned in August 2020.

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Pedro Mascarenhas

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Jun 9, 2024, 10:19:05 PMJun 9
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Anyway, in this election, all Indian parties have so far not complained and accepted the results. 
Can anyone point me to a utopian democracy without rumours?

Not India but USA, this is not rumor  :

Two days before the January 6 insurrection, the Trump campaign’s plan to use fake electors to block President-elect Joe Biden from taking office faced a potentially crippling hiccup: The fake elector certificates from two critical battleground states were stuck in the mail.

So, Trump campaign operatives scrambled to fly copies of the phony certificates from Michigan and Wisconsin to the nation’s capital, relying on a haphazard chain of couriers, as well as help from two Republicans in Congress, to try to get the documents to then-Vice President Mike Pence while he presided over the Electoral College certification.

The operatives even considered chartering a jet to ensure the files reached Washington, DC, in time for the January 6, 2021, proceeding, according to emails and recordings obtained by CNN.

 

 




 

albe...@sapo.pt

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Jun 9, 2024, 10:19:09 PMJun 9
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Once players accept the rules set for a game, they cannot complain later. If all political parties accepted the EVM, then they cannot complain. Therefore, the elections were fair and clean. Cheating can also occur in traditional ballot-boxes, as years ago on Madeira Island (Portugal) where even "dead" people voted.
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