Savia Viegas, Let Me Tell You About Quinta: Booktalk 20th @ 6.00 pm (Bookworm)

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Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا‎

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Date: 19 June 2012 11:55
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 Dear Friends,

In our continuous, determined and focused effort to keep reading
alive, we schedule 20th of every month as booktalk day at Bookworm,
for grown ups and young readers.
We plan to have two separate sessions with the luxury that space now
affords us, and we start with Savia Viegas' book Let Me Tell you About
Quinta for the adults.

I know many of you emailed saying you could not find the book and I
still urge you to come! We will booktalk. We will have Savia at
Bookworm and we can  booktalk with her !

We will also choose our book for the month of July at this meeting and
I urge you to come and partner with us.

Booktalk - Wednesday 20th June @ 6.00 pm @ bookworm.

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Ben Antao

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Hi Folks:
 
See my review of Quinta, attached.
 
Best, Ben
Quinta.docx

B MENEZES

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Jun 19, 2012, 7:21:45 AM6/19/12
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Thanks Ben, I must have missed this Review first time around. Do you know if copies of Savia's book are available in Toronto. Alternatively if some from Goa Book Club is coming over, please can you bring me a copy, and expect to be well rewarded(within reason!).
cheers


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Ben Antao

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Jun 19, 2012, 8:45:34 AM6/19/12
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Hi Braz:
 
No, you didn’t miss it. Savia sent me a review copy last January and my review appeared in the Goan Observer in February.
But I didn’t post it on this forum right away. Today I got a chance to post it as Sujata of the Bookworm will discuss the novel tomorrow.
 
If you email Savia, she would be glad to airmail you a copy, and I’ll be glad that my review generated a sale. This is all about Goans promoting Goan books and authors.  But you already know that.Smile 
 
I don’t have her email ID with me, but Sujata or FN may oblige you.
 
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saxtti viegas

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Jun 19, 2012, 7:13:51 PM6/19/12
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Hi Ben,
Thanks for posting a review of my book Let me tell you about Quinta.  I loved your review Ben and am looking forward to posting you two more books in December.  After that I shall take a holiday from writing and maybe concentrate only on my school.
I always wondered even as the writer and creator of Robby if he was the child  of Piedade and Bammon or was it Ramon and Piedade.  I loved to leave it as a grey area.  In fact though the Quinta is the central character of the book as Dale, Jason-Keith and other reviewers have have very correctly highlighted, the story and the struggle for succession is the central theme of the book. It is best explained though the character of Robby. You will recall that Robby is born with a birthmark a little pouch in his thigh.  Doctors notice it, it hurts him, his mother constantly touches it etc., From the pouch in his adult life is dissected his twin kept growing by the blood flows of Robby's  body. Remember Fetus in fetu chapter.  He is an ordinary character abused as a child in Peats house, later on the ship, he is a troubled man but has a clean heart and loves the land and vows to protect it.
Again  I did not deliberately shoot off a steamy sex scene between California and Timms because it was not central to the plot.
Thanks for remembering the bougainvillea in my garden.  With the rain all the colour has washed out .  But it will bloom again in December  and be at its fullest and very best.
Warmly
Savia
Warmly Savia

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Ben Antao

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Jun 20, 2012, 8:41:24 AM6/20/12
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Hi Savia:
 
Thanks for your message. Yes, I agree that a sex scene is not central to the plot. It would have been gratuitous.
In my novels, however, sex is integral to the plot and character; hence it flows naturally.
 
After you’ve finished writing, you could indulge in your passion for painting. The bougainvillea tree, as it blooms in December and January, could stand as a still life model, which you could paint from the balcony in watercolour, oil or even in ink on paper, a la moda de Tagore. What a work of art that would be coming from Carmona!
 
Wish you a stimulating discussion at the Bookworm today. Perhaps Sujata will send us a report.
 
Warmly,
Ben

Alda Figueiredo

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Jun 20, 2012, 9:34:56 AM6/20/12
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Dear Savia
 
I spoke to you when I was in Carmona, but did not have the time to get your book. 
It sounds very interesting.  Where can I buy?  Is it available in the UK?
Kind regards
Alda
 

Warmly Savia

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Jason Keith Fernandes

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Jun 20, 2012, 7:52:42 AM6/20/12
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Ben,

I enjoyed your review too, especially for the perspective on Goan politics that it offered.

A question. You suggest that Bandodkar was seeking to destroy the Catholic landlords. You then use this position to mark him out as communal.

However, why do we see his actions as aimed at only the Catholic landlords? Were there not Hindu landlords too who would be impacted by his legislation?

Looking forward to a reply,

and with thanks,

J

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Ben Antao

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Jason asks: However, why do we see his actions as aimed at only the Catholic landlords? Were there not Hindu landlords too who would be impacted by his legislation?
Glad you also liked my review. Glad you asked that question.
 
The big Hindu landlords of north Goa, namely the Deshprabhu family of Pernem and the Rane family (ex CM) of Sattari
were exempted from the Land Tenancy Act. Every native Goan of 50 years old and older knows about this in Goa. And any objective reporter or journalist in
Goa knows this for a fact that Bandodkar was a communalist. I covered the first general elections in Goa in 1963, and the first assembly session thereafter.
In June of 1964 Bandodkar and I nearly came to blows. My Christian upbringing saved me. I’ve written this story on Colaco.net website (Bandodkar, Goa`s Machiavelli). Check it out.   
 
When you visit Goa next time, ask around and see for yourself.
 
I want to stop here; else the old anger will come back.
 
Keep well.
 
Ben
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Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا‎

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Jun 20, 2012, 2:51:16 PM6/20/12
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On 20 June 2012 18:11, Ben Antao <ben....@rogers.com> wrote:
> Yes, I agree that a sex scene is not central to the plot. It would have been
> gratuitous.
> In my novels, however, sex is integral to the plot and character; hence it
> flows naturally.

Both just sound like excuses to me :-)

Which makes me wonder: does one have to try real hard to 'win' the
bad-sex award? Or does it just come effortlessly :-)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/badsexaward

FN

Margaret Mascarenhas

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Jun 20, 2012, 2:51:47 PM6/20/12
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Dear Savia,

Why was this at the precise time I have to troll though tax things with an accountant in Mapusa? I'm sorry I missed it and I hope the discussion was lively.
Best,
m

Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا‎

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Jun 20, 2012, 8:18:38 PM6/20/12
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Savia's on this list and reading you at "Savia Viegas" <savia...@hotmail.com>, mostly in read-only format (not read-write) I'd think :-) FN
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Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا‎

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Jun 20, 2012, 8:21:39 PM6/20/12
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On 20 June 2012 18:11, Ben Antao <ben....@rogers.com> wrote:
> Wish you a stimulating discussion at the Bookworm today. Perhaps Sujata will
> send us a report.

Ben, You are a perennial optimist :-) You'll note that our friend
Sujata doesn't have the time or thought to post even announcements of
Bookworm programmes to lists she's on, like the Goa Book Club. So is
it realistic to expect a report?

I do hope someone proves me wrong... FN

saxtti viegas

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Dear Braz,
Thanks for your interest in my book Quinta.
I would urge you to inquire from other India book store.  They have some copies in stock.  Failing which I can mail you , if you are really interested.  Quinta is part of a trilogy.  Tales from the Attic is self published in 2007 Quinta in 2011 by Penguin India. Both the books cost Rs 500/ total/  I could charge you this plus postage.
I think I did offer to sell you the book at Goa Chitra but I remember you declining. 
The book is selling well. Only Goan book shops don't stock it for some sinister reason best known to them. Plans are on to have a  translation in Finnish and one other.
We have book reviews coming up in Biblio, The book Review and the Hindu.
Here's wishing you all the success with your writing.
Warmly
Savia


saxtti viegas

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Jun 20, 2012, 10:23:06 PM6/20/12
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Dear Alda,
I remember you coming home.  I will have to post it to you and charge for postage and book cost.  It is not available in UK.  It is publishied by Penguin India and I have sold them only India and South Asia rights.
Hoping you are well.
Warmly 
Savia


saxtti viegas

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Jun 20, 2012, 10:25:07 PM6/20/12
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Ha Jason old friend.  Never lose an opportunity to debate Goa Ha.


saxtti viegas

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Jun 20, 2012, 10:30:51 PM6/20/12
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Interesting  Frederick
Which both.
Both just sound like excuses to me 


I see sex as integral  to the whole flow of life and that is how it will appear in my books.
All best
Savia

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saxtti viegas

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Jun 20, 2012, 10:39:15 PM6/20/12
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You are naughty Frederick.
The node is read only I admit.
Some of the time there is no electricity or something else is happening.  And most of all I  am computer illiterate.
Warmly
Savia

Alda Figueiredo

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Dear Savia
 
Thanks.  Do let me know the cost of the booik and the postage and I will send you the cheque
Kind regrds
Alda

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saxtti viegas

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Dear Margaret,
Ah so sorry.  Didn't think you would be interested.  Otherwise I would have changed the date.
I thought you considered Jerry Pinto, Aurora Couto, Margaret Mascarenhas and Braz as Goan writers.
The rest of us are also ran types.
But the discussion was good and I sure think you could have enriched it.
Warmly
Savia


George Menezes

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Jun 21, 2012, 8:37:26 AM6/21/12
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Dear Savia
 
Hearty congratulations.
I am very keen to read your book
I visted every single bookstore in Bandra  and drew a blank
 
Crosswords
Danai
Title Waves (huge book store)
Happy Book Stall
St Pauls
Pauline Sisters
Suburbia
Navjivan
Bandra Book Centre
VL Nayak at Khar, a friend
 
What shocks me is  that it is no less than  a Penguin Books Publication.
 
Can you please  send  a copy for me at the address of  my daughter Anjali Menezes Kelling at 26 Verem Villas, Po Reis Magos Bardez Goa 400014
 
She will pay you for it. I am marking a copy of this to her
 Will pick it up from her when I come next to Goa between 4th and 9th July. Not finalized
Keep writing and God bless you
George Menezes
 
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Nazareth, Peter

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Jun 21, 2012, 8:44:21 AM6/21/12
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Dear Savia,

The following is from Milton Berle's Private Joke File:

A patient goes to a psychiatrist for the first time and is given some tests.  The psychiatrist draws a circle and says, "What does this make you think of?"

      "Sex."

      The psychiatrist draws a tree and repeats the question.

      "Sex," the patient answers again.

      The psychiatrist proceeds to draw figures of all sorts--a house, a car, an apple, and so on--each time getting the same response. Sex, sex, and sex.  Finally the psychiatrist says, "You have an obsession with sex."

      The patient says, "Me?  You're the one who's drawing all those dirty pictures!"

 

Peter.


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B MENEZES

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Dear Savia,
Yes I recall (now with some regret) my declining at the time. I had already loaded up on Goa/Indian books to bring back to Toronto. Please save a set of both books for me. I am sending to details directly to your private email for payment and a delivery address in Goa, from where the books will be hand-carried safely. As you probably know, postage costs to Toronto almost quadruple the price of a book printed in Goa.

Congratulations again, and best for your continued and growing success.


Braz Menezes
Author: Just Matata - Sin, Saints and Settlers
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B MENEZES

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Well said. However, there is a tendency these days for writers to practice Safe Text.


Braz Menezes
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Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا‎

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Hai saiba! Nobody is going to risk saying something good to another
writer in Goa now! FN
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Margaret Mascarenhas

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Jun 21, 2012, 9:59:20 AM6/21/12
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Dear Savia,

Of course I would be interested and also present were I not at this moment drowning in a sea of accounting for the jail writing/art project. I'm sorry I missed it.  I think you may be referencing my ongoing but companionable disagreement with Fred about "Goan" writers being side-lined by larger publishing houses based on their being "Goan". I gave some examples, off the top of my head, but you would be one such example. A different discussion altogether. I consider writers as writers first and then whatever else they might be, you included :)  

Also, I can't find the book. Who has it?

all best,
m

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Jun 21, 2012, 3:49:38 PM6/21/12
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Hi Savia,

Just to let you and the others know we do have your books in stock at Literati.

Diviya

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Dear Margaret,Ah so sorry.  Didnt think you would be interested.  Otherwise I would have changed the date.

saxtti viegas

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Jun 21, 2012, 8:00:21 PM6/21/12
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Dear Margaret,
Thanks for your reply.  No problem.
Diviya has stock.  I love that book store.
S

saxtti viegas

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Jun 21, 2012, 7:57:22 PM6/21/12
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Hi Diviya,
I know you do.  Thanks for the reminder.
I remember too that very memorable book-club meeting at Literati where we spoke at length about darkness and writing.  I loved every moment and cherish it.
All best.
S

saxtti viegas

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Jun 21, 2012, 8:26:23 PM6/21/12
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Dear Peter,
That was good.
Reminds me of another.
DH Lawrence
took the manuscript of  Lady Chatterly's lover
to a small printing press in Italy
after Victorian England raised its heckles.
The small time publisher asked
' What is so sensitive that it is banned?'
Lawrence explained the synopsis of the novel and his own predicament.
The publisher scratched his head and said,
'that is so mundane Mama Mia,
we do it every night.'
All best as always
Savia

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Divya is Queen. Viva Literati
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saxtti viegas

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Jun 21, 2012, 8:30:09 PM6/21/12
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Hi Braz and  Alda
Please send me details privately.
Some might think us money-changers in the temple of God.

saxtti viegas

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Jun 21, 2012, 8:31:31 PM6/21/12
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George
Do you want both the books or one.
I will send it right away.
Savia

Niju Mohan

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Jun 22, 2012, 4:43:46 AM6/22/12
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Hello all,

Updates from Booktalk happened at Bookworm with Savia Viegas



Thanks
Niju Mohan




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saxtti viegas

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Jun 22, 2012, 8:00:45 AM6/22/12
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Dear Fellowwriters.
This is my website.
All reviews are posted here for your perusal/
So also websites that I selling the book

All best 
As always.
Savia



Nazareth, Peter

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Jun 22, 2012, 8:48:04 AM6/22/12
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Dear Savia,

When I read the joke from the Milton Berle book, I was reminded of a Goan friend of mine from university days, a year behind me, from Zanzibar (Adolfo will know her well).  I met her a few years ago at the wedding of the son of a good friend of mine, Narendra Sood (again, Adolfo will know him well) here in the US.  This was over three decades after I had last met her.  She told me that George Fernandes (Adolfo will know him well) had loaned her my two novels but she found them too full of sex.  She said not a word about the politics in the novel: neocolonialism (as presented and explained, not used as a slogan to damn the British).  And I was thinking at the time, "She has six children and she says there is too much sex in my novels."

Incidentally, I loved the work of DH Lawrence and did an independent study on him at Makerere.  My essay "DH Lawrence and Sex" was published in two parts in Transition magazine and then, in a revised form in my book Literature and Society in Modern Africa Nairobi/Kampala/ Dar es Salaam: EALB, 1972 [published by Northwestern University Press, Evanston, Illinois, 1974 as An African View of Literature].  I found out two years ago from Hartman de Souza that Violet Dias Lannoy had read this essay when she was working in Kenya for UNESCO in the late 60s (and revising her novel Pears From the Willow Tree] and told him about the essay.  I did not know she even knew of my existence.  I did not know of her at the time: I only found out about her in 1977 when I first began working on the Goan anthology.

Best.

Peter


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Anne Ketteringham

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Jun 22, 2012, 9:18:00 AM6/22/12
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I concur with that Margaret!

George Menezes

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Jun 22, 2012, 10:42:04 AM6/22/12
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Dear Savia.
Both of course
Love
George
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augusto pinto

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Jun 22, 2012, 11:48:35 AM6/22/12
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While Tales from the Attic is out of print, I think the Quinta book is easily available on flipkart. See http://www.flipkart.com/let-me-tell-you-quinta-0143415220/p/itmd67g3dagryrcp?pid=9780143415220&ref=1c90f8a1-daad-446b-aded-13f8ff5476b5
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Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا‎

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Jun 22, 2012, 1:09:44 PM6/22/12
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Niju proved me wrong, and I'm glad. Thanks for that update...

However, as far as Sujata goes, Goa-Book-Club is still a read-only
medium :-) On that I'm not wrong. FN
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saxtti viegas

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Jun 22, 2012, 11:32:40 PM6/22/12
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The advantage with Flipkart, and Frederick will surely agree with me on this, is that it delivers at your door step.  While it is a pleasure in browsing in bookshops like literati, in those that are crammed with rejected pulp novels from America and elsewhere, it is nothing short of a nightmare. Some bookshops are thoughtlessly crammed.
Savia

saxtti viegas

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Jun 22, 2012, 11:33:40 PM6/22/12
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Thanks Augusto
Knew I could count on you to set the score right.
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saxtti viegas

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Jun 22, 2012, 11:34:50 PM6/22/12
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Agree with you 100 per cent
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Frederick Noronha

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Jun 23, 2012, 6:01:46 AM6/23/12
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The Flipkarts and Amazons of the world are leading us to finish the
small-time and local bookshops that we know them. When the last local
bookshop dies, then it will be too late to say -- where is all the
diversity that we wanted and so-took-for-granted?

I've dealt with the biggies (and still do), and know how much they
squeeze the publisher/author so as to be able to deliver those
discounts that send the buyer in a tizzy! Leonard has looked at the
kind of terms being offered for e-books by the big players! Talk to
him too if you don't believe me...

This trend could lead to a situation where the small players, not
having the margins, will be unable to work, while the biggies will
dominate the field from centres like Seattle, or Bangalore or Mumbai
and maybe two or three Goa-related books get published in a year
(which sell lakhs of copies each, of course).

The price we pay currently is chaotic bookshops, poor parking,
difficulty to get books, and smaller or no discounts. What we get in
return in more diversity in the market place and a larger number of
smaller (or local) businesses.

We already have the examples of the US, UK and French markets and what
Amazon et al have done there.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fighting+to+save+the+small+bookshop&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a

Am surprised that nobody is raising these issues here, but we're
getting dazzled by the discounts and ease of shopping alone. I don't
agree one bit with this on Savia. It's a question of whether we're
raising the right issues or not. FN

PS: Each bookshop has its own character. We may or may not like it.
One of my favourite bookshops was Select in Bangalore, run by a
retired aeronautical engineer who loved books. So what if it's crammed
with old books probably from the times the Brits left Bangalore after
Independence?

Brian desouza

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Jun 23, 2012, 6:16:16 AM6/23/12
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There's nothing like spending time browsing in a bookshop. Strand in Mumbai is small, cramped but the enthusiam of its staff is quite commedable.
 
Most bookshops today function as entraianment locales....landmark at the Palladium is one- and no one knew where the books were or cared.
 
Brian

saxtti viegas

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Jun 24, 2012, 5:24:21 AM6/24/12
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The Flipkarts and Amazons of the world are leading us to finish the
small-time and local bookshops that we know them. When the last local
bookshop dies, then it will be too late to say -- where is all the
diversity that we wanted and so-took-for-granted? 

 

At one level you cannot embrace internet technology and become a cyber guru- proponent of new age communication because it suits you and at another level castigate the book trade on the Net because it hurts you (or hurts the mom-and-pop book stores).  Mind you, even the brick and mortar book trade has undergone serious transformation with many biggies dominating these chains. It’s no more one-person book stores anymore. So, let’s precisely call it the Literati model, big-chain stores (Tata, Swaraj Pauls, et al) model and the Internet model.

 

My heart is all for the Literati model and I have patronized these all long – Strand Book Store (it really offered great discounts and that’s why it was a favourite place for all us, including you perhaps. So, giving discounts per se is not a crime) Coming to Literati, browsing is a pleasure and I totally agree with you on that and these kind of niche bookshops will surely survive, even if Flipkarts and Amazons become vicious in their marketing strategies. In other words, I will use Literati, Flipkart and Oxford Book Store and I think this choice is great!

I've dealt with the biggies (and still do), and know how much they
squeeze the publisher/author so as to be able to deliver those
discounts that send the buyer in a tizzy! Leonard has looked at the
kind of terms being offered for e-books by the big players! Talk to
him too if you don't believe me...

Probably true! I can’t comment on this because both you and Leonard are part of the trade. But I know for a fact that the Internet model works on mass sales and lower prices for consumers. Travel industry is a classic case in this regard where travel agents (the middle men) have all but disappeared and consumers are getting the benefits. So, if a bookseller gets 40-50% commission and shares part of it with the buyers, is there anything wrong or unethical about this? Once again, Strand comes to mind where Shanbag built his business and fan-following on discounts. I have no clue as to whether he was squeezing anyone… I also know that Flipkart is making huge losses by offering these discounts and there are speculation that the site may shut down its books business eventually to cut losses. So that’s it. It’s a new business model and we are all learning from it. There is no need to jump to conclusions as to what will eventually pass the test of technology.


This trend could lead to a situation where the small players, not
having the margins, will be unable to work, while the biggies will
dominate the field from centres like Seattle, or Bangalore or Mumbai
and maybe two or three Goa-related books get published in a year
(which sell lakhs of copies each, of course).


I have already dealt with this earlier. But one thing to add. Flipkarts and Amazons make it possible for us to get the books that you would not find normally on the shelves of either the mom-and-pop shops or even the big chain book store. Haven’t you felt it like this at any time? To give you an example, I was dying to get three volumes of Fernand Braudel epic history of the world. You know what, I got these on eBay and at a throw-away price. Similarly, I have procured several books on the art history from Amazon while researching on Fonseca. A small difference here. Earlier I was patronizing the imperialist and multinational Amazon and eBay; now I am championing the nationalist and home grown Flipkart!

 

The price we pay currently is chaotic bookshops, poor parking,
difficulty to get books, and smaller or no discounts. What we get in
return in more diversity in the market place and a larger number of
smaller (or local) businesses. We already have the examples of the US, UK and French markets and what Amazon et al have done there.

 

This can be said about every business and Internet in general. Small-is-beautiful! But the reality is that younger generation wants to embrace the Internet for everything, including buying books, It is important to keep and encourage the reading habits without worrying too much about from where the books are bought.   So long my dear friend they reach the door step of the reader and are being read.

Read, Read and Read.

 

Am surprised that nobody is raising these issues here

 

Yes, I agree the dominance of some companies on the Net. You mention Amazon and its adverse impact. Suggesting strongly that we should shun these. I would mention even stronger monopoly and evil on the Net – Google. There are millions of cases and 100s of appeals in courts all over the world about its dominance on our lives and on the depository of human knowledge itself. What are we doing about this? Is there anyone out there who says that he or she is willing to give up googling?

 

 


PS: Each bookshop has its own character. We may or may not like it.
One of my favourite bookshops was Select in Bangalore, run by a
retired aeronautical engineer who loved books. So what if it's crammed
with old books probably from the times the Brits left Bangalore after
Independence?

 

I have never denied this.  My favourite is Literati and I think hats off to Diviya, she runs the show on professional terms. In Mumbai, it was Strand (for discounts only!)



NOW DEAR FRIENDS I REST MY CASE.

 

 

SAVIA

Ben Antao

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Jun 24, 2012, 8:39:35 AM6/24/12
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Hi friends: 
 
I find this discussion between Savia and FN both interesting and informative.
 
Here’s my POV on book publishing and book selling.
 
In this age of the Internet, everyone has a choice, to embrace it fully or partially. But none, I am afraid, can ignore it.
 
1. The books my company has published in Toronto (4 books) I sell them myself through my contacts and friends.
     Since the print order is only 200 copies of each book, I am happy if I recover my costs, which so far I haven’t.
 
2.  Unlike a majority of Canadian self-published authors, I haven’t placed these on the Amazon site because I don’t like their terms of business.
      Only my fifth novel The Priest and His Karma, is sold through Amazon. That`s because it has been published by PublishAmerica of Baltimore. I did`nt have
to pay anything for this, but I get 30% discount when I buy the book from them. PA works on POD (Print on demand basis), which works for them. They have been after me to convert the novel to ebook because of the growing trend in this direction. But I don`t like the ebook terms because of my copyright concerns, that is, I lose my copyright if I go the ebook way.
 
3.  In Goa four of my books were published by the Goan Observer weekly from 2004 to 2007. At the time the weekly came into existence (Oct. 2003), editor Rajan Narayan was desperately seeking business and I was glad to give him my business because of his stands taken on the political goondas and the rampant corruption in Goa.
     The 2000 copies of the travelogue Goa, a Rediscovery (2004) have been sold out. I used part of the proceeds to finance my first novel Blood & Nemesis (2005). Of the 1000 copies printed, 900 copies have sold. I used part of the proceeds to finance my next novel Penance (2006), again 1000 copies, of which 800 have been sold or distributed. I used part of the proceeds to finance my third novel The Tailor`s Daughter (2007), 500 hardcover and 500 softcover. The softcover is all sold out; about a 100 of the hard cover remaining. I have not received any proceeds from this novel. 
 
In 2010 I republished an anthology titled Goa Masala through FN`s 1556 for the total cost of Rs.80,000 for 500 copies. I have received 110 copies (the airmail costs for one copy is $5 CAD.) The rest are being sold in bookstores in Goa. FN has listed it on Amazon.
 
Now I like the POD model very much because you can print as few copies as you like. Such a service is offered by CinnamonTeal Publishing of Margao and last year I got my second edition of Images of Goa(2011) published through them. I am now working with them to publish my bilingual book of short stories (10 English and the same 10 in Konkani Roman script.)
 
I will stop here. If you wish to discuss self-publishing business in Toronto, I will be glad to do so. I have been the past president of the Canadian Authors
Association, Toronto Branch, and a current member of the Writers and Editors Network in Toronto. I have lots of experience and info in this area.
 
Once again, the Internet gives us, readers, writers and publishers, choices. You make your choice and be happy.
 
Cheers.
 
Ben   
 
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saxtti viegas

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Jun 24, 2012, 10:57:31 AM6/24/12
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Yes Peter many of us grew up on D H Lawrence.  BY the way I was reading Tar Bay- Toni Morrison.  Struck by the continuity of thougthts about black male identity between her work and  Zora Neale Hurston.  I would love to buy Zora's works.  Can you identify a source for me?
Also have you read Herta Muller?  Find her prose very dense and powerful.
Warmly
Savia

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