Re: [GOABOOKCLUB] Books Wanted-- for attn of Leroy Veloso

[Trophy DSouza]

I too went looking for 'rare' and 'special' books on Goa [e.g. social history] and besides Broadway Publishing I found some at Literati [Calangute] and Other India Bookstore [Mapsa]. [[books@literati-goacom, ad...@otherindiabookstore.com]

On 25 January 2015 at 06:57, 'Leroy Veloso' via The Goa Book Club <goa-bo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I am looking out to source books like Goa Indica by Arun Sinha and from Beirut to Jerusalem by Thomas Friedman, used condition will do also.

I will offer a good price and am also willing to exchange for other books including rare books.

Reply on my personal email Id, all correspondence/transaction will be kept confidential/

Thanking you,
leroy


Leroy Mario Veloso
Assistant Professor, Social Work.
Acting Programme Coordinator
P.G Dept. of Social Work

Don Bosco Institute for Post Graduate Studies and Research
Panaji, Goa - 403001
Mob. :-  9881333927/9768800666
Email:- leroy...@yahoo.com

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On Sun, 1/25/15, Jose <col...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [GOABOOKCLUB] The Gawda & The Church: A Grievance narrative?
 To: "goa-bo...@googlegroups.com" <goa-bo...@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Sunday, January 25, 2015, 10:30 AM

 On
 Jan 24, 2015, at 9:29 PM, Frederick FN Noronha
  wrote:

 "JC, Are you sure it wasn't
 1929..."

 RESPONSE:
 Dear FN.... Thank you for taking
 note of the term allegedly....in my post. The year
  could even been been 1919....or in
 the ?1930s (as Thalmann speculated)....as
 long as it was antes 1947.
 My point being:
  ....Even when Goa was a colony ( province ..whatever)
 and even while the rest of the subcontinent was a colony,
 those who were not happy with the Catholic Church, left it
 or  went back to their original faith  / to another
 one.
 Why NOT
 today? I see No (say) Salazar or Agente Monteiro
 preventing anybody from doing that. Do you?
 Thank you for enabling me to
 re-stress the points I have made on numerous occasions that
 : 
 1: Those who are
 unhappy with a relationship .....should walk away from that
 relationship. 2: Enough of casteism or further
 entrenchment of Casteism in the Church with terms like Bamon
 Catholics and Gavda Catholics. Those terms are
 oxymorons.
 jcWill respond to Augusto
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[augusto pinto]

For a book exchange scheme to become operatioal, 

[augusto pinto]

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 11:04 PM, augusto pinto <pint...@gmail.com> wrote:

WARNING:

For a book exchange scheme to be fair, then one must should be ready to be open to what books one wants to acquire and also the books one desires to part with or how much money one is ready to part with to acquire the book.

For instance if one wants Goa: vol II:  Gaunkari The Old Village Associations by Rui Gomes Pereira  which is the second part of Goa vol I: Hindu Temples and Deities by Rui Gomes Pereira and one is prepared to give in exchange Goa Indica by Arun Sinha then I think one should be open about saying this. 

If one merely expresses one''s desire for some book with the offer of "a good price: or "some 'rare' books" or some such  vague incentive then I personally think that a book collector shark is operating his con.

Goa Book Club welcomes book exchanges but I as a Moderator of this forum would like to warn you to be cautious about entering into transactions where one may subsequently feel cheated and also warn that Goa Book Club does not accept any responsibility for what may happen on account of this.

Augusto

[Cecil Pinto]

I have always found Leroy to be decent and fair in his book dealings. We have to have some element of trust and not try to quantify everything.

The midnight hour approaches, here in Goa.

Cheers!

Cecil

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[Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا‎]

Augusto, I disagree. I don't think it's possible to be "open" about the books one wants to exchange, specially since (i) we don't know what extra copies are floating around with interested others (ii) there's a question of negotiating to get the best deal we can.

This is a normal part of bargaining. Since Goa-related books are often scarce and hard-to-find, to expect a cut-and-dry price for every one is being unrealistic.

In fact, I would be happy to see a flourishing trade in rare and hard-to-find Goa books, where those with the ability to source the same are rewarded for their efforts, just as those in the antiquarian book trade (specially in the West) do likewise!

When a friend from the Goa Book Club visit the US recently, she got back a book from a former journalist colleague there, as a gift for me. It was a lovely title about the antiquarian bookshops in the US, and how a young couple into collecting rare books worked their way through many of these... I forget its name, and it's buried somewhere under my pile currently :-)

Agreed that most Goa books are not "antiquarian" in the real sense of the term. But the difficulty it takes to find them, in most cases, definitely places them close to such a category! Those collecting and digging out difficult-to-find titles need to have a viable business so that this work out for them, and such efforts overall. FN

On 2 February 2015 at 23:02, augusto pinto <pint...@gmail.com> wrote

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On 2 February 2015 at 23:02, augusto pinto <pint...@gmail.com> wrote:

warn that Goa Book Club does not accept any responsibility for what may happen on account of this.

This reminded me of something that happened not too long back! Maybe 10-15 years ago.

I was encouraging some friends to set up a village website for some place in Bardez, which will go unnamed for now. I ran into someone who offered tech support. On the other hand, I caught hold of a young lady who was willing to write...

Guess what happened?

They got married!!!

Am I responsible? I guess not.... :-) FN

[Teotonio R. de Souza]

And they lived happily thereafter?

I congratulate FN for his enthusiasm in developing a rare book trade / exchange to promote Goa related bibliography! Congratulations too to Leroy for raising this topic in the first place.

I would not mind joining in partnership,more to sell than to buy! But the money I spent on rare books here over past two decades will hardly be recovered with the Indian prices, not forgetting the cost of mailing! I fear I may enter into a bad business!

Teotonio R. de Souza

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[Teotonio R. de Souza]

I am glad Augusto has sounded a note of caution. I would suggest that GBC members who may have access to any interesting recent catalogues of books for sale could make them available on this forum so as to give an idea to any prospective buyer / exchanger the relative value of some books. Here is for instance one Catalogue with current prices in Portugal.

[Eddie Fernandes]

Re:  access to any interesting recent catalogues of books for sale could make them available on this forum so as to give an idea to any prospective buyer / exchanger the relative value of some books.

 

The most relevant catalogue  I can think of is online at http://livrariaultramarina.com/  Sent India (Portuguesa)  from the list of subjects.

 

There are many online database sites for antiquarian books.  Some of the better known ones are Alibris, Abebooks, Antiqbook, Biblio, Bibliophile,  find-a-book.com,  Livre-rare-book.com, Powell's Books,  World Book Market   etc.

You can search them all (and  more) by going to http://used.addall.com/  Enter Goa as the keyword produces 1103 titles currently with prices up to $345,000

 

Asking prices can be rather ambitious! Want to find out the selling prices of a particular rare book?  Try our old friend Google but preface the book details with Auction.  So a search for “Auction Burton Goa and the Blue Mountains” will provide info on the price the book realised at recent auctions.

 

Eddie Fernandes

[augusto pinto]

Dear Cecil
Why personalize the issue? I dare say I know Leroy better than you which is why I lend him books when he wants.

But I felt that the precedent he was setting wasn't good because it could be misused by someone less scrupulous.

I still think so although some of the interventions that followed by TRS and Eddie may have made some of us on the forum wiser.
Anyway hope no misunderstandings remain.

Best
Augusto

[Leroy Veloso]

Thanks Cecil, Augusto is right in that he freely lends me his books as he himself says I always return them back.

Through email i have manged to sell, exchange many Goa books and it has been a win - win at least ( i assume ) for all.

It just that i prefer to keep the transactions discrete, and deal with hard copy books then to start an endless thread on different aspects of books et all.

If some enjoy it it's their choice. Power to them.

Warm Regards,

leroy



Leroy Mario Veloso
Assistant Professor, Social Work.
Acting Programme Coordinator
P.G Dept. of Social Work

Don Bosco Institute for Post Graduate Studies and Research
Panaji, Goa - 403001
Mob. :- 9881333927/9768800666
Email:- leroy...@yahoo.com

“The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires.”------- William Arthur Ward

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On Mon, 2/2/15, Cecil Pinto <cecil...@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [GOABOOKCLUB] Books Wanted-- for attn of Leroy Veloso

To: "goa-bo...@googlegroups.com" <goa-bo...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 2, 2015, 11:57 PM

[Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا‎]

Leroyji,

(1) Haven't you heard the saying: Only a fool lends his books... and only a greater fool returns them. (No offence meant to anyone in the land of the wise fools; I have lost my books too.)

(2) I am greatly indebted for all the books you have shared and exchanged with me, that helped build my collection.

(3) I think you're missing your calling by not opening an antiquarian/rare bookshop in Goa. So what if Literati has beaten us to our dreams? FN