Sorrowing Lies My land

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aliya abreo

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Nov 21, 2011, 7:59:28 AM11/21/11
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Hi people,

I need any, or rather all the information you've got on Sorrowing Lies
my Land, by Lambert Mascarenhas. It's for an assignment.

Thanks,
A.

Rafael Fernandes

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Nov 21, 2011, 1:07:09 PM11/21/11
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Have you read the text?

Rafael


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Frederick Noronha

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Nov 21, 2011, 1:16:45 PM11/21/11
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I don't know how much of Dr. Google's use is encouraged among students
and researchers now, while trying to grapple with literature and other
texts in today's world. At our time, there was no Internet, though the
libraries were something like cyberspace of today (only far less
resourceful!)

Talking about SLML, this is the most unusual comment I've come across
on it: http://pacetua.blogspot.com/2005/06/sorrowing-lies-my-land.html
Not just that, the blogger even identifies Lambert Mascarenhas as the
"late Goan author"! Mr Mascarenhas, actually now in his mid-90s, is
fairly fit, and a talk he gave just last week is recorded here:
http://www.archive.org/details/VeniVidi...Goa

I read SLMY many moons ago, and enjoyed it immensely. It's writing
style is certainly impressive (or, that is what I recall of it, when
reading it in my college days). My 1980s copy is still somewhere
around with me. FN

Ricardo Afonso

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Nov 21, 2011, 1:14:53 PM11/21/11
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HELLO ALIYA ABREO,

WOULD IT HELP IF YOU READ THE BOOK ?

I AM SURE LAMBERT MASCARENHAS WOULD NOT HEAR OTHERWISE....SPECIALLY AFTER SPENDING HALF HIS LIFE PLAYING HIDE AND SEEK WITH A COLONIAL POWER WHO HAD A BOUNTY ON HIS HEAD....

I LIKE TO THINK HE PROVED AN OLD SAYING... THAT THE PEN WAS MORE MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD.
I AM SURE MANY WILL CONTRIBUTE THEIR THOUGHTS HERE

DO WELL!

RICARDO.

Hi people,

Thanks,
A.

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Frederick Noronha

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Nov 21, 2011, 1:27:15 PM11/21/11
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Aliya, Your query pushed me into trying to recall what I know/knew
about SLMY:

Books by Goan authors -- like Lambert Mascarenhas' "Sorrowing Lies My
Land" -- has been translated even into languages like Telugu
http://www.goa-world.com/goa/about_goa/ggoans.htm

Lambert Mascarenhas's *Sorrowing Lies My Land*, first published in
1955 when Goa was very much in the grip of the Portuguese, can be said
to be deeply rooted in the Goan soil, and to represent a stance that
was openly anti-imperialistic. The novel opens in the early 20th
century, and ends with the Portuguese expeditionary forces lording it
over Goa in the 1950s; in these few decades, the protagonist Tobias's
approval of the freedoms introduced by the Republic in 1910 turn to
deepening disaffection with each subsequent change of regime. When
Tobias himself dies, his crippled son continues the struggle,
prophesying eventual victory. Interestingly, Lambert Mascarenhas's
1988 satirical play, *The Greater Tragedy*, deals with the
post-Liberation disillusionment caused by the gap between aspirations
and achievements; it is an indictment of the moral bankruptcy of
politicians, and of the red tapism that afflicted Goa after
Liberation. -- Nina Caldeira, writing in *Goa: Aparanta -- Land Beyond
The End* [2008, Goa Publications, ISBN 978-81-9042-1]
http://www.mail-archive.com/goane...@lists.goanet.org/msg01990.html

As the force of the monsoons appears spent in Goa for this
year, it raining books here. A number of new titles are
readying for release in the coming weeks.
One of the first titles lined up for release is ex-editor
Lambert Mascarenhas' fiction work. Called 'Heartbreak
Passage', the front-cover reminds the reader that this comes
from the author of 'Sorrowing Lies My Land'. That pre-1961
novel was indeed a good read.
This book gets released on August 5, 2009 at the
International Centre, Dona Paula. The author, believe it or
not, is an amazing and busy 94. This time round, Mascarenhas'
novel is set in places like Hubli and Bombay, and one finds
references to places like Londa too.
An excerpt: "In his new novel Lambert Mascarenhas takes us to
Omduhalli -- a fictitious village in the Deccan -- to the
teeming metropolis of Bombay during the years of India's
Independence and the Partition."
The 200 page book is priced at Rs 300. ISBN 978-81-905716-1-6.
Published by Broadway.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goanet-news-backup/message/1727

Sorrowing Lies My Land
By Lambert Mascarenhas
Pp 213. Rs 175. (1999)
Former journalist and writer Ben Antao describes this novel
thus: ``Sorrowing... covers the time-span from roughly 1910
to about 1950. It is a political novel whose message is that
the people of Goa under Portuguese rule were denied basic
civil rights such as freedom of speech and assembly, and
those who protested were quickly punished or imprisoned.''
Antao notes that the first part of the action covers the
period when Portugal was a republic before Salazar came into
power and life in Goa was reasonably tolerable.
``The story revolves around Tobias, a bhatkar (landlord), and
his family of nine. Tobias is unlike other bhatkars in that
he loves to work in his fields. The story is narrated from
the point of view of his youngest son Babush, who is six at
the beginning of the story. The setting is not specifically
stated but is close to Margao....''
One also comes across Colva, village life, post-1926 Goa
(after the Colonial Act and Salazar), the campaign for civil
rights, 1946 and the campaign by Indian socialist Rammanohar
Lohia. His later work includes the play, The Greater Tragedy.
In his 90s, Mascarenhas has also authored another novel in
2009, Heartbreak Passage.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.indian.goa/browse_thread/thread/db8612e9cc3d5d33/1c1750a2d18a20b2?show_docid=1c1750a2d18a20b2&fwc=1

[SASIALIT] Brazilian scholars studying Goan writing....
Octavio Carillo is doing a comparative study between *O Signo da Ira*
and Lambert Mascarenhas' *Sorrowing Lies my Land* (at the
undergraduate level).
https://mailman.rice.edu/pipermail/sasialit/2011-August/025571.html

A Selection of Fictional Books and Literature on Goa
http://www.goacom.com/culture/books/fiction.htm

PS: Please tell your lecturer that s/he owes me 10 marks for doing
this Googling for you! FN

Ben Antao

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Nov 21, 2011, 1:27:44 PM11/21/11
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Aliya:

First of all, read my review of that novel (Google my name and you'll come
across that review.)

Read the novel carefully and write down your questions and email them to me
privately. I'll try to answer them as best as I can.

Are you in Goa? If so, you can actually meet the author, now 97, in Dona
Paula, Panjim, Goa.

Best wishes.

Ben Antao
Toronto, Canada

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Ricardo Afonso

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Nov 21, 2011, 2:02:10 PM11/21/11
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HELLO FREDERICK NOROHNA

YOU CERTAINLY HAVE SPOILT ME BY ORGANISING SO MUCH INFORMATION.....MAY I GIVE YOU A FULL MARK ?
SERIOUSLY THANK YOU FOR THE RECOLLECTION ON THE THREE BOOKS

IN HEART BREAK PASSAGE....I AM NOT SURE IF I UNDERSTOOD THE RIGHT SENSE OF THE SENTENCE/PARAGRAPH MENTIONING M K GANDHI.

DID ANYONE EVER COMMENT YOU THE SAME ?

I DO NOT HAVE THE BOOK WITH ME AT THE MOMENT... BUT I HOPE SOMEONE ON THIS EMAIL LIST WILL KINDLY WRITE/REFER/COMMENT/DISCUS/COMMENT/REFUTE ....ETC THE PARAGRAPH I REFER TO - PERHAPS A HINT FOR ALIYA TO REGAIN HER TEN MARKS YOU TOOK AWAY!!!!

GOOD WORK ALL!

RICARDO


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Ricardo Afonso

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Nov 21, 2011, 3:14:58 PM11/21/11
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HELLO ALIYA....

MAY I SUGGEST WRITING A LETTER TO THE AUTHOR WITH YOUR QUESTIONS....
IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME THAT AT 97 HE MIGHT OUTRUN MANY OF US ON THIS EMAIL LIST.

IN THIS AGE OF QUICK FIXES AND EVERYTHING FAST ....I THINK ONE SHOULD TAKE TIME TO ENJOY A COFFEE ?

I AM SURE THE AUTHOR'S ADDRESS IS OBVIOUS!

I AM SURE AN AUTHOR OF THE ERA WOULD LOVE TO READ IN INK....
I DO WONDER IF HIS PEN DID SPILL BLOOD - OR NOT ?
NOW THAT IS A THOUGHT.

IN THE END IT WAS THE END OF A HALF A MILENNIA RULE.

RICARDO.

Aliya:

Best wishes.

Ben Antao
Toronto, Canada

Hi people,

Thanks,
A.

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Melvyn Fernandes

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Nov 21, 2011, 4:13:02 PM11/21/11
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Aliya
Over 45 years ago I had the opportunity of Reading the book when I was
a teen in Nairobi kenya it inspired mr and pump primed my connection
with Goa. Best wishes

Melvyn A F Fernandes
65 windsor road Thornton Heath Planet Earth
Surrey England CR7 8HJ

Nazareth, Peter

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Nov 22, 2011, 7:49:53 AM11/22/11
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Dear Melvyn,
Since you read "Sorrowing Lies My Land" in Nairobi 45 years ago, you may be interested to know that I wrote an analysis of the novel in relation to the ideas of Ngugi wa Thiong'o (Kenya's leading novelist) in his first book of essays, "Homecoming", which was published in a journal called JOLISO edited by Chris Wanjala in Nairobi in 1973. I actually wrote it during the time of the Asian Expulsion from Uganda and I used a complicated title to disguise the fact that the essay was about, and against, the Asian Expulsion in Uganda. The essay was sent through the mail and the mail was being checked at the time. By the time the issue of JOLISO came out, the Expulsion deadline had passed. Two years later, I revised the essay to form a chapter in my second book of literary criticism. I was in Iowa at the time and did not need the same kind of mask for the chapter so I changed the title. I still needed to mask what I was saying, however, since Idi Amin was still in power and I was writing (and publishing) about him and the regime in many different ways. The post office lost the corrected proofs I sent in through the mail, and by the time they found out it was lost and gave me a refund of the postage, the East African Community and with it the East African Literature Bureau, my publisher, had broken up. The book was published by the Kenya Literature Bureau in 1978 under the title "The Third World Writer: His Social Responsibility."
So if anyone wants to read an analysis of "Sorrowing Lies My Land" with teeth in a neocolonial context, s/he should read my essay.
Incidentally, the novel was taught at the University of Dar es Salaam in the late sixties/early seventies by Grant Kamenju, who was a Kenyan (a Gikuyu) and who had been my fellow student at Makerere and at Leeds.
Peter

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aliya abreo

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Nov 22, 2011, 11:16:23 AM11/22/11
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Dear all,
 
Thanks for all the help. FN- Hehehe, yeah I agree, that dude had a funny take on the book :)
 
A.
 
P.S. Do you know Mario Coelho?
 
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:33 PM, aliya abreo <holl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, yeah, naturally I've read the text! Duh. Thanks for all the links. Me.

aliya abreo

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Nov 22, 2011, 10:03:44 AM11/22/11
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Well, yeah, naturally I've read the text! Duh. Thanks for all the links. Me.
 
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Frederick Noronha <frederic...@gmail.com> wrote:

Helga do Rosario Gomes

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Nov 22, 2011, 1:15:05 PM11/22/11
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Great! So now that the ASKING research is over, I look forward to your piece.
H
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Ricardo Afonso

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Nov 22, 2011, 1:06:25 PM11/22/11
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Hello all

What is …………………Duh ?

Where is my dictionary ?

1.    —used to express actual or feigned ignorance or stupidity.

2.        —used derisively to indicate that something just stated is all too obvious or self-evident.

 

SHOULD ONE KNOW THAT ? duh

 

Ha ha ha…All the best girl.

 

Ricardo.

 

 

 

 

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Francis Rodrigues

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Nov 22, 2011, 4:34:22 PM11/22/11
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Who was the real author of "Sorrowing Lies My Land"??
Therein lies a tale! 


Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:33:44 +0530

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Ricardo Afonso

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Nov 22, 2011, 1:35:57 PM11/22/11
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HELLO ALL

 

MAY I USE THIS NEW WORD I LEARNT …………………….. Duh

 

BUT OFCOURSE….

I CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO A FRESH NEW VIEW TO AN ERA OF COLONIAL RULE…..

OR WAS IT A TERRITORIAL RULE ?

RICARDO

 

 

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Great! So now that the ASKING research is over, I look forward to your piece.
H

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