Aloysius Soares

[sandra lobo]

Dears,
 
Can anyone help me geting in touch with any of Aloysius Soares children?
 
Thanks,
 
Sandra

[J. Colaco < jc>]

Sandra,

If you are referring to Aloysius Soares s/o Late Edward Soares (Aldona), I will pass on this message to the US based members of the family....along with your email address. Please confirm that it is OK for me to share your email address with Aloysius' younger brother.

Of course, I hope that they will make contact with you ..

best

jc

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[sandra lobo]

José,
 
I am referring to Professor Aloysius Soares who was activist in the Indian / Goan national cause. If they are related of course you would do me a favour.
 
Thanks,
 
Sandra


 

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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 15:07:58 -0400
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[Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا‎]

For those who might be interested:

Among the other memoirs, autobiographies and biographies are Aloysius Soares' two-volumed Down The Corridors of Time (published in the early 1970s in Bombay, ...

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[sandra lobo]

It were precisely those memoirs that made me want to know his writtings in his early stages. 

 

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 04:45:55 +0530

Subject: Re: [GOABOOKCLUB] Aloysius Soares

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[Alfred de Tavares]

Sandra, the Soares family have been my neighbours (maternal) in
Punola, Ucassaim & Prof Aloysius Soares's family, my sister, Claudine's
neighbours, & great friands, in Chembur, since 60s.

Claudinaäs nr: 0091 22 2520 9550.

Or, even better, as C., Like I, is getting on, ring her daughter, Joanne:
0091 98 207 58208.

Author of "Down the Corridors in Time" ha was a pioneer organizer of
the Chembur Catholoic Colony.

Alfred de Tavares,
 a friend of Jorge and an erstwhile admirer of yours.

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Subject: RE: [GOABOOKCLUB] Aloysius Soares
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 21:45:12 +0000

[Ilidio Borges]

Sandra,

The late Prof. Aloysius (Aloo) Soares had a bungalow in Chembur, Mumbai where his youngest son used to reside till his passed away a few years back. There is even a street near the Chembur golf course named after Prof. Aloysius Soares. I shall forward your mail to my relative from Chembur who perhaps may be able to help you in your quest. Incidentally the Prof. Aloo Soares you referred to is originally from Ucassaim, Bardez.

Ilidio

[augusto pinto]

There's a biographical essay on Prof Aloysius Soares in 

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=7DJLxYBYA-YC&printsec=frontcover&dq=eminent+Goans&hl=en&sa=X&ei=TRo0U5mPres MIeIrgfk4oCwBg&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=eminent%20Goans&f=false

I think that he was one of the many Goan Professors - of English in  particular but there were those who were scholars of other disciplines too - who would be prominently found in pre-Independence days in many colleges all over India and abroad. But the most prominent were those from Bombay and Dharwar.

Off-hand I can recall the names of Francisco Correia Afonso, Armando Menezes, John Correia Afonso, D. D. Kossambi, Lucio Rodrigues ... There were others and I think the memoirs of Soares wll reveal some of them. I think these Professors often had the ability to read several languages, and most were famous for deliverng erudite lectures but in great oratorical style and were in great demand for raising the toast at weddings.

Maybe some of you would care to list the ones you know along with some information about them, because when I went to google there weren't many I could find. Incidentally another generation of them went into copywriting and Advertising - people like Frank Simoes, Gerson da Cunha and others.

Regards

Augusto

Augusto Pinto
40, Novo Portugal
Moira, Bardez
Goa, India
E pint...@gmail.com
P 0832-2470336
M 9881126350

[sandra lobo]

Dear Alfred, Ilídio, Augusto
 
The constant generosity of the members of club towards my quests always overwhelms me. I do thank you all from my heart and will try my luck near the contacts you gave me. Alfred, I am very happy to learn that you were a friend of my father as I feel that to a certain degree he still lives through the friends that remember shared moments and feelings. Augusto, your observation hits the direction of my postdoc project (if it ever financed) as I would like to approach the thought/political intervention of several persons you mention.
 
Thanks very much,
 
Sandra
 
 

 

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 18:12:16 +0530

Subject: Re: [GOABOOKCLUB] Aloysius Soares

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[Ben Antao]

Hi folks

 

I knew Prof A Soares in Bombay during 1955-1963. He was the first editor of Goan Tribune, the fortnightly published in 1956 to espouse the cause of freedom of Goa from the Portuguese rule. After a couple of years, Lambert Mascarenhas took over the editorship until 1962, but Soares continued to contribute his commentaries on international politics as well as the Goan struggle for freedom from colonial rule. I got to know Soares better during the months of January and February, 1962 when Lambert went to Goa with his new wife Jolly, and left me in charge of Goan Tribune, which at age of 26 I brought out on my own. Prof Soares paid me handsome compliments after each of the four issues.

 

I wrote a long introduction about Goan Tribune when reviewing Lambert’s novel Sorrowing Lies My Land. The essay is archived at Colaco.net, the Goan Forum website created by Dr Jose Colaco of the Bahamas. Check it out if interested.

 

Sometime back, I wrote to the publisher Frederick Noronha about the Goan Tribune and the background to the freedom movement in Bombay in the 50s.

Lambert should have bound copies of Goan Tribune at his Dona Paula residence. Interested people should go to his place and check it out.

 

Keep well and be better informed about Goa, Goan books and writers.

 

Ben

 

 

From: augusto pinto

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Subject: Re: [GOABOOKCLUB] Aloysius Soares

 

[Eugene Correia]

I was looking for this in the book, Profiles of Eminent Goans, for I knew if was there somewhere. However, I saw in the Educationists section and didn't find it. I reopened it and saw it.
So, I request Maria. Aurora to find out from the family if the autobiography (both volumes) are available. If so. someone should lead the lead to seek the family permission to reprint them.

Instead of Niyogi Report, I said Tyagi Report in my last post.

Eugene

[Jose Colaco]

For convenience of access: http://www.colaco.net/1/ben.htm

beet

jc

[sandra lobo]

Dear all,
 
It is interesting how ideas may flow from an incident, in this case my quest. Amongst the most precious sources contemporary historians may have are memoirs about facts, environments, people. My single quest raised several interesting testemonies about Aloysius Soares and other Goan personalities, which probably would not be remembered or shared if the occasion did not happened. So it occured to me that those interested could think of an adequate model to create a web site dedicated to the collection of memoirs about Goans that inside or outside the land had relevant cultural and/or political public intervention, as well as about relevant periods of Goan history, mouvements, newspapers/magazines, including clues about where sources may be found, namelly collections of periodicals which as we all know are so difficult to trace. I would be please to integrate such project. So, here I share this still vague idea to see if a group of people may come together to develop it. If some of you think this is a good idea perahps we may follow this conversation in private channel.
 
Regards,
 
Sandra


 

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 10:59:14 -0400

[Leonard Fernandes]

​Something like this, Sandra?

http://www.indianmemoryproject.com/66/

This is a very interesting post although I guess a lot of people are doing it themselves, some like "The Last Prabhu" also being made into books. ​

On 28 March 2014 06:53, sandra lobo <sandr...@netcabo.pt> wrote:

Dear all,
 
It is interesting how ideas may flow from an incident, in this case my quest. Amongst the most precious sources contemporary historians may have are memoirs about facts, environments, people. My single quest raised several interesting testemonies about Aloysius Soares and other Goan personalities, which probably would not be remembered or shared if the occasion did not happened. So it occured to me that those interested could think of an adequate model to create a web site dedicated to the collection of memoirs about Goans that inside or outside the land had relevant cultural and/or political public intervention, as well as about relevant periods of Goan history, mouvements, newspapers/magazines, including clues about where sources may be found, namelly collections of periodicals which as we all know are so difficult to trace. I would be please to integrate such project. So, here I share this still vague idea to see if a group of people may come together to develop it. If some of you think this is a good idea perahps we may follow this conversation in private channel.
 
Regards,
 
Sandra

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[Ilidio Borges]

Sandra,

There is a perception among a section of Goans about Prof. Aloysius Soares that you may like to investigate.

While Aloysius Soares was held in high esteem particularly among the Goan intellectuals of his time, a section of Goan diaspora in Bombay (as it was called then) held not quite a favorable view about him. These were mainly the Goans who had immigrated to Bombay for economic reasons, i.e. to support their families in Goa.  However, when the economic blockade was imposed by the Indian Government in 1955, these Goans faced very difficult times as their remittance also got blocked. Rightly or wrongly, the blockage was attributed to the support given by Prof.Aloysius Soares or for not voicing their plight to Jawaharlal Nehru whose ears he had. It was perceived that while he was ensconced in his relative comfort in Chembur bungalow and carried the image of a Goan freedom fighter in Mumbai he had no heart for Goa or Goans, fair or unfair? Possibly that must be one of the reasons he not as well-known in his village of Ucassaim (where I spent a good portion of my childhood) as in Mumbai.

Ilidio 

  

[augusto pinto]

Dear Sandra

A suggestion. 

If you were willing to start a blog then maybe all those who wanted to contribute could be made co-authors and could post their comments there.

 Perhaps you could invite those who seem to have some material about one of the personalities or their times perhaps through comments made on GBC or GRN or other fora. 

I am not very sure about my skills at interviewing, but maybe it may be possible to record oral testimonies of people who may remember times past. 

Regards

Augusto 

[Eugene Correia]

Oops,.. it's Fausto da Costa.

eugene

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Eugene Correia <eugene....@gmail.com> wrote:

IIidio's take on Prof. Soares isn't out of the ordinary. As chairman of the Goan Liberation Council, he was hated, as all members of the council, by a section of Goans whose hearts bled for Portugal.

The Goan society was divided on pro-Portuguese and pro-Indian lines and they were clashes, both open and in closed quarters. It's part of history that the Goan liberation movement was boosted by Mumbai Goans. The concentrated efforts of those on the forefront of the struggle came from the pro-India Goans. Prof. Soares was one of the leaders of this section.

During his time and even much latter Prof. Soares was a well-known figure. The blockade idea was one of the pressure tactics that the Liberation Council thought of. It was to serve a purpose but Portugal didn't care. Even the armed struggle had the blessings of the council and the church authorities.

One necessarily doesn't have to take physically take part in rebellion or march in a parade against authorities. In this case, the Portuguese. They also serve who work silently and diligently towards the cause. The organ, The Goan Tribune, under him carried on onerous job and responsibility of fighting against the Portuguese.

It's better to read the writings on the pages of the fortnightly. That's what I had suggested to the late Fr. John Correia-Afonso. I had made a passing remark to Dr. Simon Fernandes. One must know that Dr. Simon wasn't interested in such things and it was a bad thing that he took possession of the paper.

One thing for sure, Dr. Simon kept it going. I have written for it but, by and large, he was doing most of the writing. It lacked the quality of the old. It wasn't marketed well. As such, it lost its significance. Funding was a problem, and Dr. Simon sustained it because the Konkani weekly, The Goa Times, fared well financially.

I wish both The Goan World, and The Goan Tribune had continued to this day. Maybe it would need a collective effort to restart as a combined monthly magazine. Any takers?

Very few of the old writers/thinkers who inhabited the Mumbai world of Goan intelligentsia are known to the present generation. I'm not sure who is doing research on these foremost Goans intellectuals today in Mumbai and Goa.

At least, the Goan publishers must make some efforts to get the writings of some into print. No doubt, copyright issues must be first sorted out. Leonard did say I should help but having been away from Mumabi for long years I have lost contacts or don't have any clues.

Maybe Fausto da Cruz, who is editor of The Goan Review, can find out. Dr. Clement Vaz did wonderful work in bringing out the book, Eminent Goans. A more elaborated book on few of those illustrious Goans must be undertaken. I know works of Prof. Menezes, Prof. Frank D'Souza are out in the public domanin.

The Examiner, the church newspaper, must be examined and essays by eminent Goan writers, professors and interesting pieces that highlight Goan art and culture and other aspects of Goan life, for example, the Kudds, should be dug up and complied in a book form.

I wish Dr. Tereza Albuquerque shows interest in such a venture. Maybe there are new researchers in Mumbai. The established ones in Goa can contribute in this project. This project could jell with the one Sandra has in mind.

Eugene Correia

[Eugene Correia]

IIidio's take on Prof. Soares isn't out of the ordinary. As chairman of the Goan Liberation Council, he was hated, as all members of the council, by a section of Goans whose hearts bled for Portugal.

The Goan society was divided on pro-Portuguese and pro-Indian lines and they were clashes, both open and in closed quarters. It's part of history that the Goan liberation movement was boosted by Mumbai Goans. The concentrated efforts of those on the forefront of the struggle came from the pro-India Goans. Prof. Soares was one of the leaders of this section.

During his time and even much latter Prof. Soares was a well-known figure. The blockade idea was one of the pressure tactics that the Liberation Council thought of. It was to serve a purpose but Portugal didn't care. Even the armed struggle had the blessings of the council and the church authorities.

One necessarily doesn't have to take physically take part in rebellion or march in a parade against authorities. In this case, the Portuguese. They also serve who work silently and diligently towards the cause. The organ, The Goan Tribune, under him carried on onerous job and responsibility of fighting against the Portuguese.

It's better to read the writings on the pages of the fortnightly. That's what I had suggested to the late Fr. John Correia-Afonso. I had made a passing remark to Dr. Simon Fernandes. One must know that Dr. Simon wasn't interested in such things and it was a bad thing that he took possession of the paper.

One thing for sure, Dr. Simon kept it going. I have written for it but, by and large, he was doing most of the writing. It lacked the quality of the old. It wasn't marketed well. As such, it lost its significance. Funding was a problem, and Dr. Simon sustained it because the Konkani weekly, The Goa Times, fared well financially.

I wish both The Goan World, and The Goan Tribune had continued to this day. Maybe it would need a collective effort to restart as a combined monthly magazine. Any takers?

Very few of the old writers/thinkers who inhabited the Mumbai world of Goan intelligentsia are known to the present generation. I'm not sure who is doing research on these foremost Goans intellectuals today in Mumbai and Goa.

At least, the Goan publishers must make some efforts to get the writings of some into print. No doubt, copyright issues must be first sorted out. Leonard did say I should help but having been away from Mumabi for long years I have lost contacts or don't have any clues.

Maybe Fausto da Cruz, who is editor of The Goan Review, can find out. Dr. Clement Vaz did wonderful work in bringing out the book, Eminent Goans. A more elaborated book on few of those illustrious Goans must be undertaken. I know works of Prof. Menezes, Prof. Frank D'Souza are out in the public domanin.

The Examiner, the church newspaper, must be examined and essays by eminent Goan writers, professors and interesting pieces that highlight Goan art and culture and other aspects of Goan life, for example, the Kudds, should be dug up and complied in a book form.

I wish Dr. Tereza Albuquerque shows interest in such a venture. Maybe there are new researchers in Mumbai. The established ones in Goa can contribute in this project. This project could jell with the one Sandra has in mind.

Eugene Correia

[Ilidio Borges]

Eugene,

I was born in 1950 so I was too young to really appreciate the happenings related to the Goa liberation movement. Whatever I have gathered in this regard was from the heated arguments that used to take place in my house in Mumbai among my late father's friends some who were pro-Goan Liberation Council (GLC) and others who were anti-GLC . Whether the anti-GLC hearts bled for Portugal or not I do not know, or were they anti-GLC just because of the hardships that they had to bear because of the economic blockade supported by the GLC who perhaps might view this as collateral damage for the liberation of Goa. The anti-GLC. possibly because of their bias. accused the GLC for doing what they did with the hope of securing some plum government posting with Jawaharlal Nehru's recommendation once Goa was liberated. That brings me to the point, what happened to the main GLC members once Goa was liberated in so far as did they play any further role towards the welfare of Goa and the Goan living there? Did they even visited Goa for an extended period of time? I have not heard of Prof. Aloysius Soares doing anything about his house in Goa. Was the liberation initiatives by the GLC more an intellectual fight bereft of any emotion for Goa and the Goans who lived there?

Ilidio

[Eugene Correia]

Ilidio,

Don't want to get into the freedom struggle issue in general. What Prof. Soares did with his house is outside this discussion. Everything must be seen in the context of those times and how people on both sides of the fence reacted.

Some who fought for freedom had a mission and no one foresaw what has happened in Goa today. Some freedom fighters went into politics, some into oblivion, some into other forms of activity.

You have raised too many questions and I frankly don't have the answers. In hindsight, one can bring up certain issues. For some Goans, freedom means nothing when they see the current situation. For some Goans, Goa has become different or rather progressed. Maybe or maybe not the current generations of Goans in Goa would, for example, enjoy educational benefits.

Perhaps a critical essay on GLC and Prof. Soares' role can be brought to light in an essay. If you have enough details please bring to light.

Eugene

[Ilidio Borges]

Eugene,

Thanks for bearing with me and my questions and trying to give me some perspective to events that transpired during the liberation movement. As I had indicated I was born in 1950 and too young to understand the dynamics of those times. 

Getting back to the main subject, if Susan has not yet succeeded in meeting the sons or relatives of Prof. Aloysius Soares then a visit to his house on Central Avenue in Chembur might help, So also a visit to the neighbours, especially the older generation might help too. 

Ilidio

[sandra lobo]

Dear Leonard,
 
My idea was focused not in building up a project of that kind, which is itself very interesting, but more in the idea of memoirs regarding concrete actors (I have particularly in mind intellectuals with significant political and cultural intervention); environments - i.e. intellectual circles, modes of sociability, etc.; political and cultural movements / associations; fracturing thematics; relevant newspapers/magazines such as the ones that several of the members refered to. It could start being built around the anticolonial / liberation issue which was and still is worth digging into, but, in fact, it could expand into other thematics. It could, of course, have a section devoted to the inventory of memoirs already published, in the form of books, articles, film/documentaries, radio programs, net pages, etc. But its original input would be open an structured but opened site devoted to gather information based on memoirs regarding the appointed lines. The idea of the site would not to build up a discourse about, say it, Aloysius Soares, but to gather different memoirs of people which in one way or the other crossed with him and feel that those memoirs maybe of public/historical interest. These persons not necessarily feel the necessity to write their own book of memoirs, which is always a process (very interesting and useful indeed) of (re)creation of self-identity (irrespectively of debates it may raise about the credibility of the resulting product). It should be though more as a orientated archive of memoirs - as organized source for different academic, journalist or even literary approaches - which could be build through texts, chronologies, etc, written by the witness/actor, as well as through the form of interviews as Augusto suggested. But contrary to what he thought I am not thinking about a blog, but a collective project which product would be in the net, with growing contents. I do not know if I am making myself clear. On the other side, I do not want it to be "my project" but one which format would be thought and discussed between a group of persons interested in developing this initial idea (or even modify it radically). Of course I would be happy to be involved in its building. After having delineated the goals and methodologies, i.e. a concrete project, then we could think of raising funds to put it on the road.

Best regards,

 

Sandra
 

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