Proposal: Linrmsux

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zachary brown

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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All this talk about giving GNU its proper credit fails to get to the
heart of the issue. GNU would not even exist without Richard Stallman,
and hence, neither would `linux' or any other free operating system.
The simplest way to solve the injustice of the prestige Linus Torvalds
is getting instead of Richard Stallman is to merge both their names in
identifying the kernel. Since GNU software forms the center of the
linux OS, it's only fitting that 'rms' form the center of the word.
Therefore I propose 'linrmsux' as the new name for the OS, and I hope
that others who are appalled at the lack of recognition GNU suffers
under will join with me in giving Richard Stallman his proper glory.

Zack

Craig Burley

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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This is getting TOTALLY RIDICULOUS.

Look, rms wouldn't be where he is today without being able to prosper
in and enjoy the environment provided by the MIT AI lab, specifically,
the PDP-10s running ITS (Incompatible Timesharing System, the UNIX of
the late '60s and early '70s).

Therefore, all GNU software should refer to Linux as:

Litsux


Come to think of it, without Digital Equipment Corporation, MIT wouldn't
have had enough equipment and accessibility to internal machine info
(on the OS, for example) to do its AI work. Therefore, we really should
use:

DECitsux


Further, it should be obvious that Digital, MIT, rms, and GNU would never
have happened if it was not for the invention of Timesharing Of
Resources, historically referred to as TOR, so the name _really_ should
be:

DECitsTOR


But, let's face it, the advent of the affordable workstation/server/time-
sharing machine occurred when Digital introduced the VAX. I claim that
timesharing and the VAX are the two most crucial elements bringing the
computing world to a point where GNU, Linux, rms, et al are so widely
recognized and appreciated.

Therefore, I absolutely require any and all future references to what
has heretofore been referred to as "Linux" to give credit where credit
is due by referring to it as:

TORVAX

This name has the added benefit of continuing to credit the actual author.

;-)

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Bradley M. Kuhn

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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In article <4oj28j$9...@lynx.dac.neu.edu>,
zachary brown <zbr...@lynx.dac.neu.edu> wrote:

>All this talk about giving GNU its proper credit fails to get to the
>heart of the issue. GNU would not even exist without Richard Stallman,

...

>Therefore I propose 'linrmsux' as the new name for the OS...


Actually, GNU could never have existed without C, and Unix, so we
should really call the GNU project, G-kerniganRitche-NU....

As the GNU Manifesto implies, the best way to move computer technology forward
is for everyone to build upon each other's ideas. Linux is not the only
thing that has built upon prior work.

Consider:

Researchers reference prior works in papers all the time. The references go
as end notes to a body of work. I think that Linux already has the footnotes
in place, and changing its name would be akin to asking research paper authors
include the titles of papers/dissertations/etc that made their work possible in
the very TITLE of their papers. This would make for VERY LONG titles, to say
the least.

The Internet placed the foundation to make the WWW possible, but we don't call
World Wide Internet Web. Uneducated individuals confuse the terms WWW and
Internet, but most of us know that the Internet existed, built a foundation,
and made the WWW possible.


Why can't we let GNU be a footnote with Linux? The educated people will know
the truth, that Linux could have never existed without GNU. Uneducated people
will continue to think that Lignux is a mis-spelling. This is a loose-loose
situation.

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Rube Goldberg

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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Whatever RMS wants to call it is fine with me. I'm
just glad it's around and it's not microsoft.


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Kit

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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zachary brown wrote:
>


> linux OS, it's only fitting that 'rms' form the center of the word.
> Therefore I propose 'linrmsux' as the new name for the OS, and I hope
> that others who are appalled at the lack of recognition GNU suffers
> under will join with me in giving Richard Stallman his proper glory.
>

> Zack

Zack, you crack me up........

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Kevin P. Neal

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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In article <4oj28j$9...@lynx.dac.neu.edu>, zbr...@lynx.dac.neu.edu (zachary brown) wrote:
>Therefore I propose 'linrmsux' as the new name for the OS, and I hope
>that others who are appalled at the lack of recognition GNU suffers
>under will join with me in giving Richard Stallman his proper glory.

I can see it now:
"Yeah, I'm running Slackware Lin Arm Sucks myself, what about you?"

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Ralf Fassel

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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| [Date: 30 May 1996 20:42:22 GMT]
| [From: ro...@marsgrp.tamu.edu (Rube Goldberg)]
| [Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss]

| Whatever RMS wants to call it is fine with me. I'm
| just glad it's around and it's not microsoft.

I second that.

Regards
R'
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Travis Nelson

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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While summoning Cthulu I overheard kpn...@interpath.com
chanting about Proposal: Linrmsux:
[snip]

>I can see it now:
>"Yeah, I'm running Slackware Lin Arm Sucks myself, what about you?"

Sounds like an obscure discipline of Kung Fu to me.

Hmm, how about Shaolinux? Kung Gnu distribution? Arg.

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Kai Henningsen

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Jun 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/1/96
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zbr...@lynx.dac.neu.edu (zachary brown) wrote on 29.05.96 in <4oj28j$9...@lynx.dac.neu.edu>:

> The simplest way to solve the injustice of the prestige Linus Torvalds
> is getting instead of Richard Stallman is to merge both their names in

Oh, both do get prestige - Linus as a good guy, Richard as a weirdo :-)

And that's not really related to the name of Linux. How many people who
use it, do you think, even know Linus' last name, let alone have the
ability to spell it? 5%? 1%?

There's probably even a large percentage who haven't yet realized the OS
name has any relation at all to the name of a person.

In Richard's place, I'd probably be a bothered _lot_ more by commercial
Un*x variants shipping with FSF software. Users of that one _really_ are
in danger of "not getting it".

> Therefore I propose 'linrmsux' as the new name for the OS, and I hope
> that others who are appalled at the lack of recognition GNU suffers
> under will join with me in giving Richard Stallman his proper glory.

No, no. Let's call his compiler "rmscc" and his editor "rmsmacs".

(For the clue-impaired: yes, I _did_ see the intended humour in the quoted
post. I'm still somewhat in rant-mode. Blame RMS.)

Kai
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Jan Vicherek

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Jun 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/1/96
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In article <w9t20k1...@iris14.natlab.research.philips.com>,
Ralf Fassel <ra...@natlab.research.philips.com> wrote:

>| Whatever RMS wants to call it is fine with me. I'm
>| just glad it's around and it's not microsoft.
>
>I second that.

So do I.


Jan

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Arthur D. Jerijian

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Jun 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/1/96
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In article <slrn4qs2e...@marsgrp.tamu.edu>, Rube Goldberg wrote:
>
>Whatever RMS wants to call it is fine with me. I'm
>just glad it's around and it's not microsoft.

With the attitude that RMS has about these childish issues,
I'm not surprised that Windows is selling like hotcakes.

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Jesse Deutsch

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Jun 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/1/96
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In article <4oj28j$9...@lynx.dac.neu.edu>,
zachary brown <zbr...@lynx.dac.neu.edu> wrote:
>All this talk about giving GNU its proper credit fails to get to the
>heart of the issue. GNU would not even exist without Richard Stallman,

>Therefore I propose 'linrmsux' as the new name for the OS, and I hope

How do you pronounce this?

Jesse

Terry Lambert

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Jun 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/1/96
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Arthur D. Jerijian wrote:
] With the attitude that RMS has about these childish issues,

] I'm not surprised that Windows is selling like hotcakes.

Here here.

After all, what people care about when choosing an OS is the
personality of the people involved in the production process,
not whether or not the OS will run the software they need to
run.

>*NOT*<

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William Perry

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Jun 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/1/96
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da...@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk (Dave Holland) writes:

> Clearly, "Lin, RMS sucks".
>
> C'mon, Stallman, wake up and listen to people's opinions. The Linux
> community _do_ appreciate all your work. What they don't appreciate is
> your bastardisation of their system's name.

You would do better to mail this to rms personally - he does not
read usenet. The best quote I got in a while was 'that's what
gnu.misc.discuss is for, so people can flame away and not disturb me'. :)

-Bill P.

Dave Holland

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Jun 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/2/96
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In article <4oqfkd$f...@teal.csn.net>, Jesse Deutsch <jdeu...@csn.net> wrote:
>In article <4oj28j$9...@lynx.dac.neu.edu>,
>zachary brown <zbr...@lynx.dac.neu.edu> wrote:
>>Therefore I propose 'linrmsux' as the new name for the OS, and I hope
>How do you pronounce this?

Clearly, "Lin, RMS sucks".

C'mon, Stallman, wake up and listen to people's opinions. The Linux
community _do_ appreciate all your work. What they don't appreciate is
your bastardisation of their system's name.

If Linus can live with "GNU/Linux", why can't you?

Dave
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Jesse Deutsch

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Jun 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/3/96
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In article <4oomak$4...@clark.edu>, Travis Nelson <tr...@clark.edu> wrote:
>While summoning Cthulu I overheard kpn...@interpath.com
>chanting about Proposal: Linrmsux:
>[snip]
>>I can see it now:
>>"Yeah, I'm running Slackware Lin Arm Sucks myself, what about you?"
>
>Sounds like an obscure discipline of Kung Fu to me.
>
>Hmm, how about Shaolinux? Kung Gnu distribution? Arg.
>

Gee, I thought it'd be pronounced lin-rim-sux. But maybe we
should rather work on an appropriate combination of Linus and
Richard Stallman's names. Like, say ....
StaLinux.

What such a product does, it does *very* thoroughly.
Knew I should have stayed in Siberia.

:)
Jesse


Tim Smith

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Jun 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/3/96
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Arthur D. Jerijian <jeri...@sleet.seas.ucla.edu> wrote:
> With the attitude that RMS has about these childish issues,
>I'm not surprised that Windows is selling like hotcakes.

What planet are you on? For RMS's attitude to affect Windows sales, the
people buying Windows have to have some idea that RMS exists. Most don't.

--Tim Smith

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