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NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 18 January 2012: Rally for Freedom of the Net, Official Name: Rally for the Future of Tech
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secr...@lxny.org
Jan 17, 2012, 4:05:47 AM1/17/12
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Many Representatives and Senators in the Congress of the United
States do not know what the Net is. Let us tell Senators Schumer
and Gillibrand what the Net is, and why they should withdraw
their support for the MPAA RIAA written bills called SOPA, for
Stop Online Piracy Act, and PIPA, for Protect Intellectual
Property Act.
The names of the proposed bills are not accurate. For
information about what SOPA and PIPA would really do, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
[page was last modified on 17 January 2012 at 08:18]
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/01/how-pipa-and-sopa-violate-white-house-principles-supporting-free-speech
https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8173
We built the Net. Neither the MPAA nor the RIAA built the Net.
And we will keep our Net.
On Wednesday 18 January 2012, let us gather to speak with
Senator Schumer and Senator Gillibrand at their offices at
780 Third Avenue
between 48th Street and 49th Street,
on the Island of the Manahattoes
Our rally starts at noon.
The New York City office telephone number of US Senator Kirsten Gillibrand
is 212 688 6262, fax 866 824 6340. The Senator's website is at:
http://gillibrand.senate.gov/
The New York City office telephone number of US Senator Charles Schumer
is 212-486-4430, fax 212-486-7693, TDD 212-486-7803.
The Senator's website is at:
http://schumer.senate.gov/
Every telephone call in opposition to SOPA and PIPA counts.
Already the other side has, in part, retreated. But we have not
yet defeated the Englobulators on this front.
Official Notice from NY Tech Meetup below.
Jay Sulzberger <secr...@lxny.org>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Subject: Rally for the Future of Tech
X-URL: http://nytm.org/sos/
Emergency NY Tech Meetup
Join Us to Stop PIPA and SOPA
__________________________________________________________________
January 18, 2012 - 12:30 PM to 2 PM
Outside the Offices of Senator Charles Schumer and Senator Kirstin
Gillibrand
780 Third Avenue, New York, NY 10017 [marker.png]
RSVP on Meetup
__________________________________________________________________
What's happening?
IFRAME:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3D780+3rd+Ave,+New+York,+NY+10003&ie=3D=
UTF8&h
q=3D&hnear=3D780+3rd+Ave,+New+York,+10017&t=3Dm&vpsrc=3D6&ll=3D40.754=
994,-73.9717
2&spn=3D0.007802,0.082312&z=3D18&output=3Dembed
The future of the NY tech community is in jeopardy. The Internet and
information technologies have created a renaissance in startup
innovation in New York that now rivals Silicon Valley as a hub for
economic growth. Tens of thousands of New Yorkers have been inspired =
to
become entrepreneurs creating thousands and thousands of new jobs and
offering professionals in many of New York's traditional industries t=
he
opportunity to start new careers participating in the 21st century
global economy.
However, Congress is in the process of rushing through legislation
which will not only severely damage the Internet as a marketplace and
platform for entrepreneurship and open innovation, but will also
seriously impact the ability of our New York tech community to contin=
ue
to generate jobs, grow and flourish. Within the next two weeks, the U=
S
Senate is planning to bring the Protect Intellectual Property Act
(PIPA) S.968 to the floor for a series of votes to ensure its passage=
=2E
This legislation would give the government and corporations the abili=
ty
to censor the net in the name of protecting creativity simply by
convincing a judge that a site is "dedicated" to copyright
infringement. PIPA would give the government and corporations the
ability to shut down any site connected to an accused copyright
infringer. Its companion legislation in the House, the Stop Online
Piracy Act (SOPA), H.R. 3261, contains many similar problems, as well
as threatening ordinary users with jail for streaming any copyrighted
work - even just video of themselves singing a pop song.
More importantly, the legislation amounts to a wholesale re-engineeri=
ng
of the open web in a way that would allow the US government to
prosecute Internet users without due process, which in turn would
discourage innovation, limit investment, and hurt the our economic
future. You can read and hear more about this dangerous and hurtful
legislation here: FightForTheFuture.org/pipa or AmericanCensorship.or=
g.
As much as we agree that infringing on copyrighted material should be
eliminated from the web as much as possible, the cure that is being
proposed and championed by the lobbying power of major copyright
holding organizations like the Recording Industry Association of
America (RIAA) and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)
will create a cure that is much worse than the disease and irrevocabl=
y
damage the very nature of the internet and by extension, the future o=
f
New York.
We believe it is imperative that we stop this bill from passage!
Signed: Andrew Rasiej, Chairman -- @rasiej
Scott Heiferman, Founder -- @heif
Nate Westheimer, Executive Director -- @innonate
Jessica Lawrence, Managing Director -- @jessicalawrence
And the entire NY Tech Meetup Board -- @nytm
Join Us
When =BB Wednesday January 18, 2012
Time =BB 12:30 - 2:00 PM
Where =BB 780 Third Ave (at 49th street) -- outside the offices of Ne=
w
York Senators Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand.
What to Bring =BB Your bodies and your minds, your co-workers, your
friends, your family, and your social networks.
Who Will Be There =BB Everyone who cares about the New York Tech Indu=
stry
and the future of the web. Special guest speakers to be announced.
How To Sign Up =BB Please RSVP here to show your support.
Tweet This =BB I'll be at the Emergency NY Tech Meetup on January 18 =
to
stop SOPA and PIPA. Join us: http://nytm.org/sos
Hashtag =BB #nytmSOS
Contact Us
Please direct all inquiries to orga...@nytm.org.
RSVP on Meetup
RSVP
Share With Twitter
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States do not know what the Net is. Let us tell Senators Schumer
and Gillibrand what the Net is, and why they should withdraw
their support for the MPAA RIAA written bills called SOPA, for
Stop Online Piracy Act, and PIPA, for Protect Intellectual
Property Act.
The names of the proposed bills are not accurate. For
information about what SOPA and PIPA would really do, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
[page was last modified on 17 January 2012 at 08:18]
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/01/how-pipa-and-sopa-violate-white-house-principles-supporting-free-speech
https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8173
We built the Net. Neither the MPAA nor the RIAA built the Net.
And we will keep our Net.
On Wednesday 18 January 2012, let us gather to speak with
Senator Schumer and Senator Gillibrand at their offices at
780 Third Avenue
between 48th Street and 49th Street,
on the Island of the Manahattoes
Our rally starts at noon.
The New York City office telephone number of US Senator Kirsten Gillibrand
is 212 688 6262, fax 866 824 6340. The Senator's website is at:
http://gillibrand.senate.gov/
The New York City office telephone number of US Senator Charles Schumer
is 212-486-4430, fax 212-486-7693, TDD 212-486-7803.
The Senator's website is at:
http://schumer.senate.gov/
Every telephone call in opposition to SOPA and PIPA counts.
Already the other side has, in part, retreated. But we have not
yet defeated the Englobulators on this front.
Official Notice from NY Tech Meetup below.
Jay Sulzberger <secr...@lxny.org>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Subject: Rally for the Future of Tech
X-URL: http://nytm.org/sos/
Emergency NY Tech Meetup
Join Us to Stop PIPA and SOPA
__________________________________________________________________
January 18, 2012 - 12:30 PM to 2 PM
Outside the Offices of Senator Charles Schumer and Senator Kirstin
Gillibrand
780 Third Avenue, New York, NY 10017 [marker.png]
RSVP on Meetup
__________________________________________________________________
What's happening?
IFRAME:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3D780+3rd+Ave,+New+York,+NY+10003&ie=3D=
UTF8&h
q=3D&hnear=3D780+3rd+Ave,+New+York,+10017&t=3Dm&vpsrc=3D6&ll=3D40.754=
994,-73.9717
2&spn=3D0.007802,0.082312&z=3D18&output=3Dembed
The future of the NY tech community is in jeopardy. The Internet and
information technologies have created a renaissance in startup
innovation in New York that now rivals Silicon Valley as a hub for
economic growth. Tens of thousands of New Yorkers have been inspired =
to
become entrepreneurs creating thousands and thousands of new jobs and
offering professionals in many of New York's traditional industries t=
he
opportunity to start new careers participating in the 21st century
global economy.
However, Congress is in the process of rushing through legislation
which will not only severely damage the Internet as a marketplace and
platform for entrepreneurship and open innovation, but will also
seriously impact the ability of our New York tech community to contin=
ue
to generate jobs, grow and flourish. Within the next two weeks, the U=
S
Senate is planning to bring the Protect Intellectual Property Act
(PIPA) S.968 to the floor for a series of votes to ensure its passage=
=2E
This legislation would give the government and corporations the abili=
ty
to censor the net in the name of protecting creativity simply by
convincing a judge that a site is "dedicated" to copyright
infringement. PIPA would give the government and corporations the
ability to shut down any site connected to an accused copyright
infringer. Its companion legislation in the House, the Stop Online
Piracy Act (SOPA), H.R. 3261, contains many similar problems, as well
as threatening ordinary users with jail for streaming any copyrighted
work - even just video of themselves singing a pop song.
More importantly, the legislation amounts to a wholesale re-engineeri=
ng
of the open web in a way that would allow the US government to
prosecute Internet users without due process, which in turn would
discourage innovation, limit investment, and hurt the our economic
future. You can read and hear more about this dangerous and hurtful
legislation here: FightForTheFuture.org/pipa or AmericanCensorship.or=
g.
As much as we agree that infringing on copyrighted material should be
eliminated from the web as much as possible, the cure that is being
proposed and championed by the lobbying power of major copyright
holding organizations like the Recording Industry Association of
America (RIAA) and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)
will create a cure that is much worse than the disease and irrevocabl=
y
damage the very nature of the internet and by extension, the future o=
f
New York.
We believe it is imperative that we stop this bill from passage!
Signed: Andrew Rasiej, Chairman -- @rasiej
Scott Heiferman, Founder -- @heif
Nate Westheimer, Executive Director -- @innonate
Jessica Lawrence, Managing Director -- @jessicalawrence
And the entire NY Tech Meetup Board -- @nytm
Join Us
When =BB Wednesday January 18, 2012
Time =BB 12:30 - 2:00 PM
Where =BB 780 Third Ave (at 49th street) -- outside the offices of Ne=
w
York Senators Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand.
What to Bring =BB Your bodies and your minds, your co-workers, your
friends, your family, and your social networks.
Who Will Be There =BB Everyone who cares about the New York Tech Indu=
stry
and the future of the web. Special guest speakers to be announced.
How To Sign Up =BB Please RSVP here to show your support.
Tweet This =BB I'll be at the Emergency NY Tech Meetup on January 18 =
to
stop SOPA and PIPA. Join us: http://nytm.org/sos
Hashtag =BB #nytmSOS
Contact Us
Please direct all inquiries to orga...@nytm.org.
RSVP on Meetup
RSVP
Share With Twitter
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JohnF
Jan 17, 2012, 9:09:49 AM1/17/12
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In comp.os.linux.misc secr...@lxny.org wrote:
> As much as we agree that infringing on copyrighted material should be
> eliminated from the web as much as possible, the cure that is being
> proposed and championed by the lobbying power of major copyright
> holding organizations like the Recording Industry Association of
> America (RIAA) and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)
> will create a cure that is much worse than the disease and irrevocably
> As much as we agree that infringing on copyrighted material should be
> eliminated from the web as much as possible, the cure that is being
> proposed and championed by the lobbying power of major copyright
> holding organizations like the Recording Industry Association of
> America (RIAA) and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)
> damage the very nature of the internet and by extension, the future of
> New York.
> We believe it is imperative that we stop this bill from passage!
So, rather than simply stopping the bill as currently written,
> We believe it is imperative that we stop this bill from passage!
if you "agree that infringing on copyrighted material should be
eliminated from the web" (your words above), has anybody drafted any
alternative legislation that would accomplish the agreed-upon goal
without "irrevocably damaging the very nature of the internet"
(your words again)?
That is, rather than just ranting about it, propose an
acceptable alternative. How do you suggest "eliminating
infringement of copyrighted material on the web"?
Why don't you come up with a positive solution here?
P.S. This post is Copyright (c) 2012, John Forkosh Associates, Inc.
(just kidding:)
--
John Forkosh ( mailto: j...@f.com where j=john and f=forkosh )
Hyman Rosen
Jan 17, 2012, 9:15:26 AM1/17/12
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On 1/17/2012 9:09 AM, JohnF wrote:
> That is, rather than just ranting about it, propose an
> acceptable alternative.
Thank you for your concern, but in fact it is not necessary to propose
> That is, rather than just ranting about it, propose an
> acceptable alternative.
an alternative law when protesting a proposed law which is both harmful
and useless for its claimed purpose.
John Hasler
Jan 17, 2012, 10:53:59 AM1/17/12
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John Forkosh writes:
> How do you suggest "eliminating infringement of copyrighted material
> on the web"?
That is quite impossible without eliminating the Web, just as
> How do you suggest "eliminating infringement of copyrighted material
> on the web"?
"eliminating infringement of copyrighted material with copying machines"
is not possible without eliminating copying machines. The purpose of
copyright is to encourage progress in science and the arts, not to
maximize the revenues of publishers. The right to sue infringers is
more than adequate for that purpose. The public interest is not served
by laws that attempt to suppress all unauthorized copying at public
expense. Subverting public resources and inconveniencing innocent
people for private purposes is wrong. Copyright infringement is a tort,
not a crime. If you think someone is infringing, sue.
P.S. This post is Copyright (c) John Hasler and may be treated as if it
were in the public domain. I waive all rights.
--
John Hasler
jha...@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA
Hyman Rosen
Jan 18, 2012, 9:10:42 AM1/18/12
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Manhattan no longer belongs to a Native American tribe.
Hyman Rosen
Jan 18, 2012, 3:47:03 PM1/18/12
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On 1/17/2012 4:05 AM, secr...@lxny.org wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 January 2012, let us gather
There was quite a nice turnout - I'd guess something like 2000
people were there. As might be expected from tech geeks, the
slogan shouting left a lot to be desired ("What does democracy
look like? This is what democracy looks like!") and most of the
speakers could have used some punching up of their speeches.
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