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[VM] Moving from VM Was: Time to move to Mutt?

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Diagon

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Aug 2, 2019, 8:00:38 PM8/2/19
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---- On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 17:20:39 -0700 Uday S Reddy <u.s....@cs.bham.ac.uk> wrote ----
> jo...@stoffel.org writes:
>
> > After way too many years to mention, I'm starting to think that
> > viewmail is a dead project. I can't do elisp programming, so it's
> > probably time to move to mutt as my CLI based mail reader.
>
> CLI = command line interface?
>
> I agree it is unlikely that VM will last long. I don't know when it will
> die. Probably when new RfC's will come along and we may not have the energy
> to process the new kinds of messages. But, at the moment, it seems to work
> fine.

It's going to die?? NOoooo! I only barely just switched from rmail! :-<

Hey, all my mail is still in 1000 (2000?) Babyl files. I just discovered that Python has a pretty much universal email converter:
https://rg3.name/200711221740.html

If I'm going to continue to use VM while I can, and if wherever I move next, I'm going to stick with emacs, what mailbox format should I be starting to move to?

(Thanks for your work. What fields are you, the maintainers, in?)

> Cheers,
> Uday

(And yes, I agree with someone else's comment that people are abandoning email, and for good reason. It's not just that the security properties are terrible, but it can become overwhelming. Except for dealing with e-lists, fora, and various businesses etc, I'm mostly on Signal, Keybase, Riot and the like.)

/D


Diagon

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Aug 2, 2019, 9:07:13 PM8/2/19
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---- On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 18:00:37 -0700 Alan Wehmann <alan.w...@gmail.com> wrote ----
> VM can deal with Babyl files.
> From the VM Info Preface:
> In addition, VM can also store mail in
> the 'Babyl' format used by Emacs Rmail. So, it is also possible to
> inter-operate with Rmail if you have archived mail in that format.
> :-) Alan

Yes, that's what brought me to VM from rmail. The question is, if VM is someday going to die, I should probably be thinking about moving to another more modern format now. If my parameters are that I'd like to use VM as long as I can and stay within emacs once I have to move, what format might that be?

/D.


Uday Reddy

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Nov 6, 2019, 8:11:11 AM11/6/19
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nongn...@niwas.net writes:

> It's going to die?? NOoooo! I only barely just switched from rmail! :-<

Nice to know that there are users still switching in to VM. Welcome!

> Hey, all my mail is still in 1000 (2000?) Babyl files. I just discovered
> that Python has a pretty much universal email converter:
> https://rg3.name/200711221740.html
>
> If I'm going to continue to use VM while I can, and if wherever I move
> next, I'm going to stick with emacs, what mailbox format should I be
> starting to move to?

VM handles Babyl files fine. To the best of my memory, no problems arise if
you use both Rmail and VM on the same files (though not at the same time).
But it has been a long time (2-3 decades) since I did anything like that.

See the manual section

Starting up > Local folders > Folder types

for full information.

Cheers,
Uday

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