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vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com

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Nov 9, 2007, 7:57:01 PM11/9/07
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What is the story about compatibility between versions of
emacs and ispell? On XP, W98, and pure DOS 6.22.

BTW, why do DOS programs (including emacs) look like a movie
theater screen (fully wide but not tall) on w98?
Is there a way around this?

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Eli Zaretskii

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Nov 10, 2007, 6:30:30 AM11/10/07
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> From: vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:57:01 +0000 (UTC)

>
> What is the story about compatibility between versions of
> emacs and ispell? On XP, W98, and pure DOS 6.22.

It's quite hard to understand what are you asking. If you ask about
using a Windows port of Emacs with a DOS port of Ispell, or the other
way around, then it's almost certain that they will be incompatible,
due to different compilation options.

If you ask about the same binaries of Emacs and Ispell on different
versions of Windows, then I would not expect any problems.

> BTW, why do DOS programs (including emacs) look like a movie
> theater screen (fully wide but not tall) on w98?
> Is there a way around this?

I think you need to modify the properties of emacs.exe to set
non-default window size. By default, it is reset to 25 lines.


vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com

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Nov 12, 2007, 5:17:26 AM11/12/07
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Ok, I mixed too many questions.

On a 75MHz machine in DOS I have emacs 19.34 and ispell 4.
I seem to recall being told back them ispell 3 would not work
or was it Ispell 4 with my version of emacs.

Now, the main question was about a new 64bit machine, and I will
supply versions in a short while.

THe dos under w98 screen size was a third question.

vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com

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Nov 12, 2007, 5:31:59 AM11/12/07
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A much more fundamental (machine independent) question: assuming
everything is installed correctly, do I need to tell emacs where ispell is?
After moving ispell.el into /lisp, do I need to edit the el file
to do this?

Peter Dyballa

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Nov 12, 2007, 2:11:45 PM11/12/07
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Am 12.11.2007 um 11:31 schrieb vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com:

> A much more fundamental (machine independent) question: assuming
> everything is installed correctly, do I need to tell emacs where
> ispell is?
> After moving ispell.el into /lisp, do I need to edit the el file
> to do this?

Why don't you check and correct all ispell related variable values? C-
h v ispell- TAB TAB C-g and then change to *Completions* buffer
without actually starting any completion action. Best rename and save
it to prevent its destruction when doing some other completion.

There is also the info hypertext system. It will explain what one can
or must do with ispell.

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Eli Zaretskii

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Nov 12, 2007, 4:11:35 PM11/12/07
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> From: vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:17:26 +0000 (UTC)

>
> On a 75MHz machine in DOS I have emacs 19.34 and ispell 4.
> I seem to recall being told back them ispell 3 would not work
> or was it Ispell 4 with my version of emacs.

It's neither. I think you are talking about the obsolete ispell4.el
file, not Ispell version 4 (which does not exist). Just don't use
ispell4.el; use ispell.el instead.


Eli Zaretskii

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Nov 12, 2007, 4:13:45 PM11/12/07
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> From: vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:31:59 +0000 (UTC)

>
> A much more fundamental (machine independent) question: assuming
> everything is installed correctly, do I need to tell emacs where ispell is?

Ispell should be on PATH somewhere, that's all.

> After moving ispell.el into /lisp, do I need to edit the el file
> to do this?

You don't, but I don't recommend moving ispell.el into lisp/, since
there should already be such a file there. I suggest to use ispell.el
that came with Emacs, because you might have compatibility problems
(between ispell.el and the rest of Emacs) otherwise.


David Kastrup

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Nov 12, 2007, 5:53:19 PM11/12/07
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Eli Zaretskii <el...@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
>> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:17:26 +0000 (UTC)
>>
>> On a 75MHz machine in DOS I have emacs 19.34 and ispell 4.
>> I seem to recall being told back them ispell 3 would not work
>> or was it Ispell 4 with my version of emacs.
>
> It's neither. I think you are talking about the obsolete ispell4.el
> file, not Ispell version 4 (which does not exist).

If I remember correctly, Ispell version 4 does exist, but it is missing
essential capabilities from the current Ispell 3 version. So its gotten
out of use.

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vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com

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Nov 12, 2007, 10:37:38 PM11/12/07
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On XP emacs is 22.1 and Ispell 3.1.20 by luziusschneider.com
in programfiles\commonfiles\isepll

Eli Zaretskii

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Nov 12, 2007, 11:14:56 PM11/12/07
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> From: vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:37:38 +0000 (UTC)

>
> On XP emacs is 22.1 and Ispell 3.1.20 by luziusschneider.com
> in programfiles\commonfiles\isepll

Should work fine, AFAIK. Just make sure that ispell.exe lives
somewhere on your PATH, where Emacs can find it.


vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com

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Nov 13, 2007, 10:01:31 PM11/13/07
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I got ispell-3120.zip from an old GNU CD and put it in the DOS machine
(in dos\gnu\bin\ which is in my path). I ran ispell on its own and
it complained about englishx.hash.

vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com

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Nov 13, 2007, 10:02:54 PM11/13/07
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I finally figured this out after like a dozen years.
The XP ispell I installed is also 3.1.20. They also hawk an "aspell."

vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com

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Nov 13, 2007, 10:03:32 PM11/13/07
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I'd like to thank all for replies.

Eli Zaretskii

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Nov 13, 2007, 11:10:26 PM11/13/07
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> From: vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:01:31 +0000 (UTC)

>
> I got ispell-3120.zip from an old GNU CD and put it in the DOS machine
> (in dos\gnu\bin\ which is in my path). I ran ispell on its own and
> it complained about englishx.hash.

Was there englishx.hash in the zip file?


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