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Bob Pasker, X2434

Mar 23, 1989, 10:29:23 PM3/23/89
Mail seems to be the only thing I know how to use on the internet.
How can i fetch a copy of the latest GNUEMACS manual from your node?
Can you just mail me one via the internet?

Any help would be appreciated.

thanks, bob pasker

Relational Technology
VAX Development

Mar 24, 1989, 12:36:50 PM3/24/89

Date: Thu, 23 Mar 89 19:29:23 pst
From: think!rtech! (Bob Pasker, X2434)

thanks, bob pasker

Relational Technology
VAX Development

It be easier on the thousands of people on the bug-gnu-emacs mailing list
if you used the inquiry address:
in the future.

thanx -len
Trust you won't be bothered by the canned reply. Individual requests
have a lower priority than work that benefits everybody. Consider it
a contribution on your part to the GNU Project.

The bison manual is in bison.tar.Z, or order a copy from FSF.

The following are appended:

FTPing/UUCPing GNU Software
Mail Ordering GNU Software

Each section is separated by a row of hyphens.
How to get GNU Software by Internet FTP or by UUCP. Last updated 27 Feb 1989

* No Warranties

We distribute software in the hope that it will be useful, but
without any warranty. No author or distributor of this software
accepts responsibility to anyone for the consequences of using it or
for whether it serves any particular purpose or works at all, unless
he says so in writing.

* Updates

If you find this file in the Emacs distribution, there is a chance
it is out of date. If you plan to FTP files from,
you might as well start by FTPing the current version of this file,
which is `/u2/emacs/etc/FTP'.

* FTPing GNU Software

** GNU Emacs and How To FTP It

If you are on the Internet (see also "** Alternative Internet FTP
Sources" below), you can at present copy the latest distribution
version of GNU Emacs from the file /u2/emacs/edist.tar on host (or the file /u2/emacs/edist.tar.Z which has been run
through compress after tar). These files are about 7 and 3 megabytes
long, respectively. After you unpack the distribution, be sure to
look at the files README and INSTALL.

Because of difficulties in transferring large files, often a split
version of the tar file is created. This is a directory named
/u2/emacs/edist.tar-M.N-split or perhaps
/u2/emacs/edist.tar-M.N.Z-split, containing files of 100000
characters each. There is generally no trouble in ftping files of
this size. They can be combined with cat to make a tar file or
compressed tar file.

Some ftp'ers have found it necessary for successful file transfer:
- to set the binary/image mode
- to use another of internet addresses than the
default for your machine. They are (as of 22 Oct 86):

Files of differences from previous widely distributed GNU Emacs
versions to the present version are also available on
under names of the form diff-OO.OO-NN.NN in directory /u2/emacs .
These are made with diff -rc2. Sometimes there are compressed
versions of these difference files as well; their names have .Z

The Emacs manual in source form is included in the distribution.
The dvi file produced by TeX is not included, but a copy may be
available for ftp under the name /u2/emacs/emacs.dvi.

** Copying Only Recently Changed Files

A special version of rcp exists which allows you, on an Internet host,
to copy all GNU Emacs files whose last-mod-dates don't match your
files. See the file /u2/emacs/etc/RCP on for
information on using it.

** The VMS version of GNU Emacs and How To FTP It.

You can ftp a VMS version of GNU emacs directly from, User anonymous, pass guest. It has already been
compiled and linked so it is ready to run. You will need to ftp the
reblock.for program to reblock the saveset so that the backup utility
can restore that saveset. Do a backup/list on the ftp'd saveset and
catch the header info that backup puts out. It contains the correct
block size to reblock the file to. Remember to ftp it in binary mode.

** GDB and How To FTP It.

GDB, the GNU source-level C debugger, is part of the Emacs distribution.
It can be found separately in the directory /u2/emacs/dist/gdb as
65 separate files. If there is a demand, separate tar files of
GDB can be made available.

** The VMS version of GCC and How To FTP It.

Jonathan Corbet has made the "bootstrap files" for the GNU C compiler
available for pseudo-anonymous FTP on The full gcc
sources are also available, for anybody who wants to start from scratch.

Jonathan Corbet also requests that you please limit your access to
outside the hours of 8-6 (mountain time) on weekdays. RDSS is a
*very* busy machine during the day. Jonathan notes, "I don't think I
have to tell you what will happen if my users feel they are being
slowed down by outside people grabbing software."

The procedure is this: FTP to (, and log in
with a username of FTP, password FTP. Cd into the [.gcc] directory,
and grab either or both of these files:
bootstrap.bck The bootstrap files -- not much more than the
.exe files. About 1.3 mb.
gcc.bck The full-blown gcc source code. About 5mb.
Both of these files are backup savesets, and should thus be grabbed
in binary mode.

SPAN people can grab the same files from rdss::du:[ftp.gcc]. If your
node database does not know about rdss, use 9452 instead.

Jonathan Corbet is with the
National Center for Atmospheric Research, Field Observing Facility
SPAN: rdss::corbet (rdss = 9452)
Usenet: ...!ncar!rdss!corbet

** Other GNU Software and How To FTP It.

This software is available on under directory
/u2/emacs. Files containing diff from previous versions are often
available. Compressed versions of the tar or diff files are often
available (indicated by a .Z suffix). Much of this software is in
beta test (probably still buggy), and is being made available for use
by hackers who like to test software. M.N indicates a version number.

Bison bison.tar.Z
GNU Assembler (gas) gas-dist.tar.Z BETA TEST
GNU C Compiler (gcc) gcc.tar-M.N.Z Late BETA TEST
GNU C++ Compiler (g++) g++.tar-M.N.Z BETA TEST
GNU C++ Library dist-libg++.tar.Z BETA TEST
GNU C++ Debugger (gdb+) gdb+.tar-M.N.Z BETA TEST
GNU AWK (gawk) gawk.tar-M.N.Z BETA TEST
GNU Make make.tar-M.N.Z BETA TEST
GNU ld, ar, gprof, size, nm and strip
binutils.tar.Z BETA TEST
GNU Diff diff.tar.Z BETA TEST
GNU e?grep grep-M.N.tar.Z BETA TEST
GNU Ghostscript ghostscript-M.N.tar.Z Early BETA TEST
GNU Chess gnuchess.tar.Z
GNU Buttons & Designs

** Scheme and How To FTP It

The latest distribution version of C Scheme is on the machine To obtain a "tarred" copy of this directory,
telnet to and log in as scheme (password: scheme).
A file called dist.tar will be created (if there isn't one already),
and you will be given a choice of the file transfer program to run (of
all the ones supported by zurich). It should be self-explanatory (ha,
ha! [try ? for help]).

Read the files INSTALL and README in the top level C Scheme directory.

** Alternative Internet FTP Sources

The administrators of maintains copies of GNU
distributed software for MILNET/DDN hosts. It is available via
anonymous ftp from PD:<UNIX-C.GNU> in the original tar or tar.Z

The administrators of maintains copies of GNU Emacs and
the compress program. The files are available via anonymous ftp under
directory ~ftp/gnu. louie's addresses are (as of 21 Feb 1987): louie udel-louie eecis3 udel-relay udel udel-louie louie udel-relay udel

Emacs and other GNU programs may be available on, in
/usb/gnu/emacs-dist.tar{,.Z}. Anonymous ftp starts you in directory

Emacs and other GNU programs may be available on,, and via anonymous ftp.

* Getting GNU software in England is willing to distribute those GNU sources he has
available. The smaller items are available from the info-server (send
to the larger items by negotiation. Due to
communication costs this service is only available within the UK. is also willing to
distribute those GNU sources he has available. He can also write
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or, via a suitable gateway, from PSS sites as well. Due to
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Mail to for details. He can also write sun
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* Getting GNU software in Finland

Site has many of the GNU programs available for anonymous ftp.

* Getting GNU software in Denmark

Site (Internet address has many of the GNU
programs, TeX, and the X window system available for anonymous ftp.

* Getting GNU software via UUCP

OSU is distributing via UUCP: GNU Emacs, GNU Bison, GNU Debugger
(gdb), GNU C Compiler (gcc) (& G++ & GDB+), MIT C Scheme, GNU Chess,
GNU Assembler (gas), GNU Awk (gawk), Compress, News, RN, NNTP, Patch,
some Appletalk stuff, and some of the Internet Requests For Comment
(RFC). See their periodic postings on the Usenet newsgroup
comp.sources.d for informational updates. Current details from Karl
Kleinpaste <> or <...!osu-cis!karl>; or Bob
Sutterfield <bob@the-same-places>.

Information on how to uucp some GNU programs is available via
electronic mail from: arn...@skeeve.UUCP, uunet!hutch!barber,
hqda-ai!merlin, hao!scicom!qetzal!upba!ugn!nepa!denny, acornrc!bob,
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