Gospel of Thomas 27

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gnostic ken

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Oct 21, 2012, 2:39:11 PM10/21/12
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What does this say to you?

27 "If you do not fast from the world, you will not find the
kingdom.
If you do not observe the sabbath as a sabbath you will not see the
Father."
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27) <Jesus said,> "If you do not fast as regards the world,
you will not find the Kingdom. If you do not observe the Sabbath
as a Sabbath, you will not see the Father."
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27 Unless
You abstain from the world,
you will not find the kingdom.
Unless you honor the sabbath,
you will not see the Father.
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27. (Y'shua says:)
Unless you fast from the system, you shall not find the
Sovereignty «of God».
Unless you keep the (entire) week as Sabbathº, you shall not behold
the
Father.
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(27)
(1) "If you do not abstain from the world, you will not find the
kingdom.
(2) If you do not make the Sabbath into a Sabbath, you will not see
the
Father."
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27
Abstinence from the world
(JESUS said), "If you (plur.) do not abstain from the world you will
not
find the king. If you do not make the sabbath a sabbath you will not
behold the father."

gnostic ken

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Oct 21, 2012, 2:46:38 PM10/21/12
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22 Apr 11, Clive said:
I think Jesus must have read Isaiah 58 before he said this saying, Its about fasting and the Sabbath.
Heres a bit -
"6"Is this not the fast which I choose,
To loosen the bonds of wickedness,
To undo the bands of the yoke,
And to let the oppressed go free
And break every yoke? .

And again -
And call the sabbath a delight, the holy day of the LORD honorable,
And honor it, desisting from your own ways,
From seeking your own pleasure
And speaking your own word, 

23 Apr 12, I replied:
Yeah. It was building on the idea of the Sabbath. That seems clear.

Ken

23 Apr 12, Clive said:
My current take on this is that "the world" is my own world, which is all the external habits and internal desires I consist of that are all geared towards my own self pleasure.
To "fast from the world" I see as breaking free from this/my world and by setting my intention to get my pleasure from giving pleasure rather from recieving it.

25 Apr 11, Clive said:
Some interesting views you posted there (below if I ever get around to it), thanks.
Personally speaking, I think of the sabbath as a day of rest from working at correcting my left side.
I call it the sabbath when I'm in that period when I feel filled with light and can't work at correcting myself because the light makes me feel perfect, its as if I've entered a new spiritual existence and the work of correction is done, unfortunately this state of being doesn't last long and then a new period of having to work on myself for 6 days begins.
I think of it as steps towards the goal, each step starts with 6 days of work at correction and finishes on the sabbath when the light enters the empty spaces which are created by the corrections made during the working week.

26 Apr 11, I said: 
Thanks. Seeing what other's think opens doors for me and I hope they might be useful for others too.
Ken


gnostic ken

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Dec 5, 2012, 9:57:58 AM12/5/12
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Fri Jul 9, 2010 6:35 am, Gnostic Tom said:

Sabbath is taking a break, stopping the normal workflow of life, enjoying a weekend, getting away from it all. Fasting is taking a break from eating, dieting, cleansing the system, lightening up.  To fast, not from food, but from the world, is to turn off the television, ignore the papers, get out of the conversations about politics and business, turn off the phone, and just take a walk in the woods.  Leave behind the books and acquired concepts of how things are and go out and pick up sticks and turn over rocks for yourself.  Direct connect to What Is.  So little time, so much to unlearn.

Gnostic Tom

Fri Jul 9, 2010 8:37 am, Jerry B. commented on Gnostic Tom's post:
This is beautifully put, I think. Unless one does this, one can not
develop the new ears and eyes to see, make the inner and the outer one,
the upper the same as the lower. jerry

Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:58 am, Sam said:
Gist of GoT 27;

Set aside all our mundane-concerns,
'tis for ataraxis that mind yearns.
Veg-out each seventh ... repose returns.

itso,
philo
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