GNOME Do 0.8 alpha 1 release (try 2)!

[Christopher Halse Rogers]

Good morning (again) campers!

After a long gestation, the next release of GNOME Do and its plugins
is now ready to enter alpha testing. While the new features and code
are now nearly complete, there are still some edges to knock off.
Help us do this by testing, and filing bugs!

Some of the new features include:
* For the users:
- shiny new Do themes, with animations.
* Items with children now have arrows indicating the fact. No more
right-arrowing just to see if it works!
* New interface style: Docky. A panel interface for Do, dynamically
showing the top-relevance items in Do's universe. Docky displays
running processes, and supports drag-and-drop of items to and from the
panel. Also has sweet, smooth zoom!
* A new all-in-one plugins tarball! Now contains both official and
community plugins, for a total of 57 plugins currently available. In
return, online repositories have been dropped; there are too many bugs
they cause that we can't fix.

* For the hackers:
- Pluggable interfaces, making new UIs easier to write and ship
- Core is now mostly a set of (hopefully) cross-platform interfaces
with pluggable implementations. This should make porting Do to Windows
and OS X easier.
- The plugin API has changed. Arrays have been replaced with
IEnumerables across the board.

So, time for testers to step up!

- Tarballs can be found on Launchpad - Core at
https://launchpad.net/do/+download and plugins at
https://launchpad.net/do-plugins/+download
- Intrepid packages can be found in the do-testers PPA at
http://launchpad.net/~do-testers/+archive
- SuSE users can use the Mono:Community repositories
* http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/Mono:Community/openSUSE_11.0/gnome-do.ymp
for SuSE 11.0
* http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/Mono:Community/openSUSE_11.1/gnome-do.ymp
for SuSE 11.1

Get cracking!

[David Siegel]

Bugs can be reported here: http://bugs.launchpad.net/do Please search
for your problem before posting a bug to be sure that you don't create
a duplicate bug report.

When you get the alpha up and running, please reply to this thread
with a nice screenshot :) We'd like confirmation that it works (and
we'd like to see how well it works).

Thank you,
David

[Alex Launi]

And with 0.8 around the corner, it's time to start thinking about the next development cycle, if you've got the next greatest idea for Do, or a new plugin, you should hash out the details in a blueprint. Blueprints can be filed here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/do


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--Alex Launi

[Christopher Halse Rogers]

So, a number of you have noticed that the amd64 build of gnome-do
failed in the PPA. This is beyond our control - mono is broken in
amd64 on the launchpad PPA builders.

As a work-around, you can manually download an amd64 build from the
launchpad download page, here:
https://edge.launchpad.net/do/trunk/0.7.95

[iko bruckelmann]

Looks neat doesn't it?
kudos


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[iko bruckelmann]

Looks neat doesn't it?
kudos


David Siegel wrote:

[Matthew Nicholson]

Built/running on Fedora 10 (only issue was hunting down flickrnet for plugins to build cleanly. Might need to package that up)

Matthew Nicholson
nich...@eps.harvard.edu
Harvard University
FAS IT Research Computing
Dept. Of Earth and Planetary Science

[Matthew Nicholson]

forgot the file extension on there. oops. Here we go.

Matthew Nicholson
nich...@eps.harvard.edu
Harvard University
FAS IT Research Computing
Dept. Of Earth and Planetary Science

[kallepersson]

Extremely awesome!

The openSUSE .ymp seem to point to the wrong repo. These are the right
ones:

openSUSE 11.0
* http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/GNOME:Factory:Next/openSUSE_11.0/gnome-do.ymp
openSUSE 11.1
* http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/GNOME:Factory:Next/openSUSE_11.1/gnome-do.ymp

Here's some screenshot of my desktop running Do. This release
completes my workflow!

http://kallepersson.se/upl/do01.png
http://kallepersson.se/upl/do02.png
http://kallepersson.se/upl/do03.png

I also posted a blog post about it:
http://kallepersson.se/blog/2009/01/14/new-awesome-do-alpha/

Many thanks! You guys rock!

[Matthew Nicholson]

First of all: awesome job. This release will surly kick butt. I love the new interfaces, animations and all the new plugins.

Now, for a comment: Docky is really awesome and I WANT to use it fulltime, but there's one thing stopping that for now it seems: the lack of a results window.
See I use do a lot to browse things. My music, folders, notes, rtm tasks, etc. While its possible to move through all of these with the docky interface (by pressing over...or down? The switch on this also throws me off), it was always much nicer to see the results window, and simple see at least a portion of the items I'm browsing.

Now I ask, what's preventing this, and what can be done to help? I would love to see the results list either pop up above docky, or, better yet, have the whole dock expand in a vertical way, with the results bellow the " top" section...just some ideas.

Again, great job, hopfully I van help in someway!

Matthew Nicholson
nich...@eps.harvard.edu
Harvard University
FAS IT Research Computing
Dept. Of Earth and Planetary Science

[Alex Launi]

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Matthew Nicholson <matthew.a...@gmail.com> wrote:

Again, great job, hopfully I van help in someway!

Best way to help, make some mockups of how to show results beautifully. Don't just recreate Classic, find a beautiful, innovative, and usable way to show results. You'll be a hero.

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--Alex Launi

[David Siegel]

Matthew, the only thing stopping us, as Alex suggested, is that we
haven't found the best way to do this yet. We are considering reusing
the existing results window, but this is definitely not in the spirit
of Docky and is therefore not the best solution.

Remember that this is just our first shot at Docky, and the metaphor
will evolve and improve with time and user feedback.

Thank you,
David

[Sean Dague]

David Siegel wrote:
> Bugs can be reported here: http://bugs.launchpad.net/do Please search
> for your problem before posting a bug to be sure that you don't create
> a duplicate bug report.
>
> When you get the alpha up and running, please reply to this thread
> with a nice screenshot :) We'd like confirmation that it works (and
> we'd like to see how well it works).

I installed the alpha off launch pad, but was surprised to find both the
twitter and thunderbird plugins missing. While the thunderbird plugin
never actually worked for me, the twitter one was something I actually
used quite a bit (and I was planning on seeing how well the thunderbird
was working now and trying to fix it.)

Is there a reason these got kicked to the curb?

-Sean

--
Sean Dague / Neas Bade
sda...@gmail.com
http://dague.net

[Alex Launi]

Twitter got renamed to microblogging as it now supports Identi.ca


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--Alex Launi

[Stephen]

Hi David,

Are you very tied to the idea of having the navigation be horizontal?
If, when you hit TAB, the selected action slides upwards instead of
just becoming an Icon then you should have a few more options for when
there are multiple results.

So:
1) I type "some text" and hit TAB, the pane slides up and I work in a
pane below.
2) I hit right to scroll through actions on "some text". Now we have
some options:
a) The tab expands up and i see a cover flow like interface,
b) The Tab expands up and out and you see a carousel view (like
this but with a keyboard interface:
http://sorgalla.com/projects/jcarousel/examples/static_multiple.html)
c) The tab expands upwards and I see and Ipod menu style drill down
menu
3) I navigate to Search Web and hit tab, pane slides up and gets
smaller showing Search web.
4) I select the wearch engine to use and hit enter.

Don't have time right now to do a mockup. Let me know if you would
like me to explain some more.

Thanks,
Stephen

On Jan 15, 3:30 am, "David Siegel" <djsie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Matthew, the only thing stopping us, as Alex suggested, is that we
> haven't found the best way to do this yet. We are considering reusing
> the existing results window, but this is definitely not in the spirit
> of Docky and is therefore not the best solution.
>
> Remember that this is just our first shot at Docky, and the metaphor
> will evolve and improve with time and user feedback.
>
> Thank you,
> David
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Matthew Nicholson
>

> <matthew.a.nichol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > First of all: awesome job. This release will surly kick butt. I love the new
> > interfaces, animations and all the new plugins.
>
> > Now, for a comment: Docky is really awesome and I WANT to use it fulltime,
> > but there's one thing stopping that for now it seems: the lack of a results
> > window.
> > See I use do a lot to browse things. My music, folders, notes, rtm tasks,
> > etc. While its possible to move through all of these with the docky
> > interface (by pressing over...or down? The switch on this also throws me
> > off), it was always much nicer to see the results window, and simple see at
> > least a portion of the items I'm browsing.
>
> > Now I ask, what's preventing this, and what can be done to help? I would
> > love to see the results list either pop up above docky, or, better yet, have
> > the whole dock expand in a vertical way, with the results bellow the " top"
> > section...just some ideas.
>
> > Again, great job, hopfully I van help in someway!
>
> > Matthew Nicholson

> > nichol...@eps.harvard.edu

> > Harvard University
> > FAS IT Research Computing
> > Dept. Of Earth and Planetary Science
>
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:30 PM, kallepersson <ka...@nemus.se> wrote:
>
> >> Extremely awesome!
>
> >> The openSUSE .ymp seem to point to the wrong repo. These are the right
> >> ones:
>
> >> openSUSE 11.0
> >> *

> >>http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/GNOME:Factory:Next/openSUSE_11.0/gno...
> >> openSUSE 11.1
> >> *
> >>http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/GNOME:Factory:Next/openSUSE_11.1/gno...