[GMCnet] Plea for help...

[Robin Hood]

https://youtu.be/VGeJN6RLC40

Ok, after quitting working for the Feds and moving from MS to Florida, I
have FINALLY stabilized enough that I can justify working on my coaches
again.

I have somehow lost the keys to BOTH coaches (as well as the gate to the
storage yard!) in the move. Rumor has it that door and ignition keys can be
cut by a good locksmith without needing to replace them.

The aluminum wheels need swapped around from the Royale to the Palm Beach.

The Palm Beach needs the fuel tanks reinstalled.

I can try to take some time off work, but some extra hands who know what
they're doing would be a big help. :) Goal is to get these to Florida. I
met a guy at Dothan who indicated interest in the Royale and may be willing
to assist, but I've lost his contact info. :)

Robin

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Robin Hood
Jacksonville FL
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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[Ken Burton]

Re-keying that vintage lock is not difficult. On the door lock remove one of them and take it to almost any locksmith.

OR.. Get a new pair from Autozone Part # DL15250 (that is 2 keys and 2 locks in the set) It is around $16.00.

On the ignition switch, which is a different key than the door, remove the tumbler assembly from the steering column and get a new one with keys from
Autozone. (Part# LC14260 or LC14290) Most of them are worn anyway. The price is $18.99 or $15.39.

AZ will loan you a steering wheel puller for free. The last one that I installed, I replaced the ignition one in the AZ parking lot with their
puller.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

[John R. Lebetski]

You also need the steering lock depressor tool and some small flat blades to remove the lock ring and depress the cylinder pin. As well as philips
and the wheel nut socket long extension and ratchet.
--
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II

[Robin Hood]

Is that unique to our coaches or would a locksmith be familiar with this
procedure?

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 8:00 AM John R. Lebetski <gransp...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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Robin Hood
Jacksonville FL
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"

[James Hupy]

Standard throughout GM vehicles of the era. All the same. Ignition locks
made by Briggs and Stratton division of General Motors.
Jim Hupy

[Jon Roche]

I posted on facebook the tools that he is describing.


steering wheel puller(you can rent one, harbor freight, ect). I have a very cheapo one and has always worked.
https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Tool-W150-Steering-Removal/dp/B0002KO0QS/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1486657341&sr=8-7&keywords=steering+wheel+puller

there is a spring plate that needs to be pushed down, and there is a tool for that:
https://www.amazon.com/Powerbuilt-648466-Steering-Wheel-Removal/dp/B004KED7RU/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1486657341&sr=8-6&keywords=steering+wheel+puller

again a very common tool. You can get by without it by prying and pushing, but that compressor makes it simple.


I am not sure I agree with that all locks are the same. I tried swapping my ignition cylinder out with a chevy suburban and i think maybe a GMC
Jimmy lock a couple times. They sure look the same, but there was some difference, I can't remember what. I ended up having a locksmith do a key
up, and kicked myself for how easy that was and the time I wasted taking the suburban cylinders out of the vehicles.

again as the facebook post showed, search that coach over, there always seems to be a key hidden somewhere in the past 40 years.


--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/

[Carl Stouffer]

I may be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure the glove box lock is the same as the entry door lock and the electric hook-up lock, and is easy to
remove. Some of those even have a lock code on them. That would help only if you can get into the coach.
--
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging

[Johnny Bridges via Gmclist]

If it was me, I'd run it home on a boat tank so I could take mt time reinstalling the gas tanks. And if that's the set of tires I gave you, I don't
think I'd try for Jacksonville on them.

--johnny
--
'76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"The road goes on forever, and the party never ends" --Robert Earl Keen

[Johnny Bridges via Gmclist]

Robin, what's your current email?

--johnny
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Braselton, Ga.
"The road goes on forever, and the party never ends" --Robert Earl Keen

[Ken Burton]

Robin Hood wrote on Thu, 09 February 2017 09:09

> Is that unique to our coaches or would a locksmith be familiar with this
> procedure?
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 8:00 AM John R. Lebetski

> wrote:
>
> > You also need the steering lock depressor tool and some small flat blades
> > to remove the lock ring and depress the cylinder pin. As well as philips
> > and the wheel nut socket long extension and ratchet.
> > --
> > John Lebetski
> > Woodstock, IL
> > 77 Eleganza II
> >
> >

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> >
> --
> Robin Hood
> Jacksonville FL
> 2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
> 1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"

A locksmith can make a key for the lock after it is removed and delivered to him. Any GM mechanic familiar with vehicles of this era can remove the
lock.
Like I said before I removed and replaced mine in the parking lot at AutoZone.

It takes about 5 minutes with the proper tools to remove the steering column lock. You will need the two tools borrowed from AZ in the same kit. You
will also need a set of 3/8" deep well sockets and a couple of screw drivers.

I still recommend that you just replace the cylinder(s) rather than re-key them. I just checked and new door cylinders are in stock at my local
AutoZone. They are very common GM parts.

--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

[Mike]

Robin:

If you want to get in the GMC's without a Locksmith, Watch this Jim Bounds video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go-jJVim_5Y
--
Mike K.
'75 PB
Southeast Michigan

[Robin Hood]

I am several hundred miles from my coaches, if I still lived in the same
city is the number we will be having a much different conversation. I'm
having to do most of this either remote control by hiring specialists or
host some sort of work rally. :-)

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Robin Hood
Jacksonville FL
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"

[Robin Hood]

Hey Ken my email address is lox...@gmail.com

As I think about it further, I think I like the idea of a 20 gallon fuel
cell sitting in my hallway instead of trying to hang in redo the fuel
system so far away from home.

[Thomas Phipps]

Robin, Call me. Tom, ms ii
--
1975 GMC Avion
KA4CSG

[Robin Hood]

Heya Tom!

Will do! Hafta be tomorrow after my hearings though.

I've been road warrioring it. Jacksonville to Jackson to St Pete, back to
Jacksonville tomorrow after hearings... I have truck butt.

--
Robin Hood
Jacksonville FL
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"

[Bruce Hart]

My son had his car stolen, when it ran out of gas it was abandoned and
towed to the police lock up lot. He was notified through the registration
to come get it. Of course he had only one set of keys and they were in the
car when stolen but not in the ignition when towed. We were give the
number of a locksmith through the impound yard and was told we had 10
minutes to get the vehicle out. Locksmith showed up in a Safari van with
his tools in the back and was able to make a key in two tries at a cost of
$50.

Good Luck!

--
Bruce Hart
1976 Palm Beach
Milliken, Co
GMC=Got More Class

[A.]

Robin Hood wrote on Thu, 09 February 2017 18:18

> Hey Ken my email address is lox...@gmail.com
> As I think about it further, I think I like the idea of a 20 gallon fuel cell sitting in my hallway instead of trying to hang in redo the fuel
> system so far away from home.
> --
> Robin Hood
> Jacksonville FL
> 2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
> 1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"

And don't worry about playing musical wheels between the two sets you want to swap out. Get into them the least damaging way you can think of, inflate
the tires and bags, hotwire them, and head for home.

Do everything else on the home court where Murphy has less advantage over you.
--
73 23' Sequoia 4 Sale
73 23' CanyonLands Parts Unit 4 Sale
Upper Alabama
"When I grow up I am going to be a curmudgeon."

[D C _Mac_ Macdonald]

That's fair warning for EVERYBODY to get multiple spare key sets made for EVERY vehicle!


I have four sets for my GMC motorhome.


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My son had his car stolen, when it ran out of gas it was abandoned and
towed to the police lock up lot. He was notified through the registration
to come get it. Of course he had only one set of keys and they were in the
car when stolen but not in the ignition when towed. We were give the
number of a locksmith through the impound yard and was told we had 10
minutes to get the vehicle out. Locksmith showed up in a Safari van with
his tools in the back and was able to make a key in two tries at a cost of
$50.

Good Luck!

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 7:21 PM, Robin Hood <lox...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Heya Tom!
>
> Will do! Hafta be tomorrow after my hearings though.
>
> I've been road warrioring it. Jacksonville to Jackson to St Pete, back to
> Jacksonville tomorrow after hearings... I have truck butt.
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 8:25 PM Thomas Phipps <tph...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> > Robin, Call me. Tom, ms ii
> > --
> > 1975 GMC Avion
> > KA4CSG
> >
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> Robin Hood
> Jacksonville FL
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> 1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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[Terry]

I can get my door unlocked using a long squiggle pick or one of the long upholstery (trim) pin (plastic push-in fasteners)removal tools from Harbor
Freight by going in through the fridge access door and slipping the tool between the cabinet and the vehicle body and lifting the lock knob.
--
Terry Kelpien

ASE Master Technician

73 Glacier 260

Smithfield, Va.

[Terry]

Here's the tool from H.F. :
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-piece-panel-trim-removal-tool-set-66188.html

They don't have the long hemorrhoid pick that I use for so many jobs, I got that from Snap-On...Matco has a similar set, and those tools are about $20
each instead of a set for that price from China.

[Robin Hood]

Locksmith guy is coming this week to re-key everything on both coahes.
Couple of hundred bucks but they're rhere and I'm here, so I reckon it's
worth it. :)

[Robin Hood]

They were apparently able to decode the cylinders and made new duplicate
keys. Yay!

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Robin Hood <lox...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Locksmith guy is coming this week to re-key everything on both coahes.
> Couple of hundred bucks but they're rhere and I'm here, so I reckon it's
> worth it. :)
>

--
Robin Hood
Jacksonville FL
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"

[David Shafer]

The referenced keys from Autozone do NOT fit my 1977 door. I have looked for a year for the door lock cylinder so I tried this too. If anyone knows of
another I can try please post.
--
1977 26 foot 403

[Johnny Bridges via Gmclist]

The NO (Mike) got three sets of keys with the 23'. I only climbed in the side window once, and then went and had some dupes made. Cheap insurance.

--johnny
--

76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.

"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased

[Graham Mace]

I now have a dead bolt below the original locking handle, & abandoned the lock mechanism from the original handle. Now it's just a pull latch. The dead bolt gives much better security.

Graham
76 Palm Desert

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Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 5:28:30 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Plea for help...

[Ken Burton]

dshafer wrote on Fri, 03 March 2017 07:28

> "Get a new pair from Autozone Part # DL15250 (that is 2 keys and 2 locks in the set) It is around $16.00."
>

> The referenced keys from Autozone do NOT fit my 1977 door. I have looked for a year for the door lock cylinder so I tried this too. If anyone
> knows of another I can try please post.

Try the GMCMI parts listing. If not, Rock Auto has them listed for a 77 Toronado. Look up a "Lock Cylinder"

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/oldsmobile,1977,toronado,6.6l+403cid+v8,1225763,body,door+lock+cylinder,10007

It is a common part. I got one from AZ years ago by just bringing in the old one and they matched it up.

--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

[Kingsley Coach]

Use a plastic bag tie to put a spare key on the speedo cable up front under
the hatch.
If you can't get into yours because you've lost your key, you'll at least
be able to get into someone elses to keep warm and have a snack while you
call for help! <VBG>

Mike in NS

--
Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS

Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !

[Scott Nutter]

How long will The coaches be in Brandon for? There is a small chance I might be in Terry Mississippi in the middle of this month.
--
Scott Nutter
1978 455 Royale Center Kitchen, Quad bags.
Houston, Texas

[Robin Hood]

I got keys made. The locksmith was able to make three sets of new
origiinals that fit the existing cylinders. For both coaches. :)

They're not going anywhere any time soon. My mechanic needs to hire a
helper (switching those wheels around is a two man job). Don't sweat it.

--
Robin Hood
Jacksonville FL
2013 Subaru Outback "Top Flight"
1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"

[Emery Stora]

> On Mar 7, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Robin Hood <lox...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I got keys made. The locksmith was able to make three sets of new
> origiinals that fit the existing cylinders. For both coaches. :)
>
> They're not going anywhere any time soon. My mechanic needs to hire a
> helper (switching those wheels around is a two man job). Don't sweat it.
>

I have switched the wheels around by myself more than once.
Does he really need a helper?

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

[Jerry Burt]

Emery Stora wrote on Tue, 07 March 2017 13:07

> I have switched the wheels around by myself more than once.
> Does he really need a helper?
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO

So have I but would rather not. :?

--
Patti & Jerry Burt
73 Gmc 26' Canyon Lands -
Photos - http://jburt.smugmug.com/GMC-Motorhome
Lots of upgrades but lots to do to make it ours.
Members: FMCA - GMCMI - GMCWS - Pacific Cruisers - 49ers