[GMCnet] Iphone and majicjack
Bob de Kruyff
For those of you that have majicjack at home, there's a new Iphone app that will allow you to call anywhere using your majicjack service and number--it's free when you have wifi
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Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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Gene
FREE WIFI @ Mickey D
Larry Davick
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
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Bob de Kruyff
"Talk Free"
Bob de Kruyff
I was skeptical but it works great plus you can use your existing Iphone contact list
gene Fisher
gene
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Chris Choffat
OOMA has one too
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Michael
Whistle Phone has free calls. Listen to a 10-15 sec ad, and call anywhere in the USA for free for 20 mins (wifi) Jailbreak your Iphone, get the app that tricks the phone into thinking its on wifi when its on 3g and talk for free!
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Richard
I think the Ooma app is $10
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Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Chico California
Richard
I understand the new model does not require a computer to operate.
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Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Chico California
Richard
I have an option which is cheaper still.
Its call Obihai. Free unlimited calls within US and cheap international.
Also interfaces well with free GoogleVoice service.
http://www.squidoo.com/free-voice
and
http://www.amazon.com/OBi110-Service-Bridge-Telephone-Adapter/dp/B0045RMEPI
(it has 279 five star reviews on Amazon, I think folks like it!)
Its what we use at work.
gene Fisher
went to McDonalds, and called for free
works where ever I get free wifi
seems to want to load ever time , not sure what that is
tnx
gene
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http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
Richard
Gene,
Which app/service/devise are you referring to?
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Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Chico California
gene Fisher
from bobK
gene
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Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
-------
http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
JP Winger
We are parked in Manhattan (of all places) and one of my belts was badly perished and has come off. It runs around the alternator, fan belt, just below the fan belt(what drive is that?) and the power steering.
1. Can I still drive it, it's starting fine, fan belts working, guessing it won't charge the alternator is all?!
2. Can't read any part number on the belt - any suggestions on what it might be and how hard/ where to get a replacement?
3. Is Tia major job to refit it?
The other 2 belts are fine although the one to the air con is twisted, any hints to getting that on track?
Thanks!
JP
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
Kingsley Coach
If your lights go dim, you can hold on the Battery switch to bring current
from the rear 'house' batteries. I assume you have tools so you can do this
is their parking lot..but it will take some time and you will get dirty.
You can also check your Black List for people in the area where you might
have some help.
Can't give you assistance on the belt numbers as I don't know what engine
and if any mods(double pulley) have been done.
Good luck...and maybe someone else will chime in here..
Mike in NS
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
JP Winger
Is it safe to drive it a bit? Seems the belt only drives the fan on the alternator? but I'm pretty ignorant so not sure.
House battery is at front but haven't been driving so it's pretty flat. Gene battery is good so can move that up for now.
Thanks!
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
Emery Stora
If you use the boost switch to connect it to the house batteries (or use a small jumper from the small hot terminal to the +12 volt stud) it will get power from the house system. If that starts going low then use the Onan to keep it charged up.
I drove with my Onan going for 200 miles once until I could buy a replacement alternator when mine went bad.
Do you need the belt numbers?
The twisted air conditioner belt might need replacement as it probably will twist again as it gets a "set" when running twisted.
However I would suggest that you just leave it off for now as you don't need the air conditioner at this time of year.
You have to loosen the power steering belt (center one) in order to get the alternator belt on but the air conditioner belt goes on last so you can easily put it on later without touching the other two belts.
Emery Stora
gene Fisher
Jim Kanomata
Jump at the isolator.
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Bruce Hart
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KB
Fan belt - alternator:
Napa value line or Dayco 15570
Napa 25-7570
Goodyear 15574
Fan belt, water pump & power steering:
Dayco 15450
Goodyear 15466
Napa 25-7450
Fan belt, air conditioner:
Napa value line 15620
Goodyear 15634
Napa (NBH line) 25-7619
If your generator runs, you can use it to keep your batteries
charged up without the alternator. See:
http://gmcmotorhome.info/batt.htm#101
hope this helps,
Karen
1973 23'
1975 26'
JP Winger
Thanks all, still reading through emails and guides (thx karen & emery for battery guide link), and have belt details now thanks.
So from what I can gather...
It is ok to drive, if I need lights turn generator on and use boost switch, correct!? Or do I need to connect wires behind the glovebox per emerys battery guide?
Fortunately we don't have far to go, just napa, etc. and we're in a quiet manhattan neighbourhood so can sleep on the street here (although reluctant to turn on gene in this situation, apartments & don't want to annoy or attract extra attention). Although we're in the art gallery district of Chelsea and lots of cameras have been directed to our GMC all day long!
Thanks for the belt guides, Napa is closed tomorrow, anywhere else worth looking for?
The other two belts look good, apart from the twist in the air conditioner belt which I partially cleared but can understand it's worth replacing. Unfortunately the alt belt is at the back so will have to take them all off to replace it... Actually no, can go over the ps belt ok so just the air con.
I tried to go thru the blacklist but because I don't know the area it's very hard to tell who's nearby or not. I'm fairly practical & logical but no mechanical experience and doubt I could replace the belts on my own and with my crappy cheap socket set.
Thanks again!
Regards,
JP
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
On Dec 10, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Emery Stora <emery...@mac.com> wrote:
> No problem running it without an alternator except youu battery will go down, very quickly if you drive at night with the headlights on.
>
> If you use the boost switch to connect it to the house batteries (or use a small jumper from the small hot terminal to the +12 volt stud) it will get power from the house system. If that starts going low then use the Onan to keep it charged up.
>
> I drove with my w going for 200 miles once until I could buy a replacement alternator when mine went bad.
Jim Kanomata
the pulley and you need to bypass it.
I ve cut that belt to save time when I did not need the a/c.
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Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
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Mike Miller
I drove my 1973, with a non-operational alternator, for a couple of hundred miles through the dark by running the Onan and leaving the boost switch on boost. (You can do that on early coaches and most transmodes.) No need to jump anything...
That was one time the 3 battery system (chassis, house and gen set) of the early coaches saved me from a major problem.
jimk wrote on Sat, 10 December 2011 14:01
> You can fire up the generator if you need elecrical power.
> Jump at the isolator.
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:58 PM, JP Winger <lavidal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks, it's an olds 455, '73 GMC Canyon Lands.
> > Is it safe to drive it a bit? Seems the belt only drives the fan on the alternator? ...
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Bob de Kruyff
Mr.RadioActive wrote on Fri, 09 December 2011 21:34
> Whistle Phone has free calls. Listen to a 10-15 sec ad, and call anywhere in the USA for free for 20 mins (wifi) Jailbreak your Iphone, get the app that tricks the phone into thinking its on wifi when its on 3g and talk for free!
The majicjack probably only makes sense if you use it at home--it integrates seemlessly and can ring both at home and your cell if you want and it integrates you phone book
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Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Bob de Kruyff
bukzin wrote on Fri, 09 December 2011 23:19
> I understand the new model does not require a computer to operate.
They have that now. It's good if you don"t want to leave your computer on which I do.
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Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Rob Mueller
I'm a USAussie that grew up in Hoboken, NJ which is just across the Hudson so I am familiar with the area. I checked the Black List
and unfortunately there isn't anyone near you.
I then went to the Maintenance Manual and tried to find instructions on how to change alternator belts, no luck there either!
I then did a Google Search for Napa Garage, NYC and came up with these two:
Dave's Auto Repair
78 Willow ST
Hoboken, NJ 07030
(201) 792-9721
Location Hours
Mon - Fri: 8:30 AM - 6:00 PM
Saturday: 8:30 AM - 5:00 PM
Sunday: Closed
Visit Store Website
Distance: 2.5 miles
I would not use this shop as you will have to go through the Holland or Lincoln Tunnel and if the GMC dies in the tunnel it will be
a BIG problem.
Mike's Auto Repairs
604 West 30th Street
New York City, NY 10001
(212) 695-0250
Location Hours
Mon - Fri: 8:00 AM - 7:00 PM
Saturday: 8:00 AM - 4:00 PM
Sunday: Closed
Visit Store Website
Distance: 2.7 miles
I would suggest you give these guys a call on Monday and tell them that you have a 1973 GMC that needs new belts. You can give them
the part numbers and tell them it takes the same belts as a 1973 Toronado. I'm sure they'll be able to change the belts.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: JP Winger
Hi,
Thanks all, still reading through emails and guides (thx karen & emery for battery guide link), and have belt details now thanks.
So from what I can gather...
It is ok to drive, if I need lights turn generator on and use boost switch, correct!? Or do I need to connect wires behind the
glovebox per emerys battery guide?
Fortunately we don't have far to go, just napa, etc. and we're in a quiet manhattan neighbourhood so can sleep on the street here
(although reluctant to turn on gene in this situation, apartments & don't want to annoy or attract extra attention). Although we're
in the art gallery district of Chelsea and lots of cameras have been directed to our GMC all day long!
Thanks for the belt guides, Napa is closed tomorrow, anywhere else worth looking for?
The other two belts look good, apart from the twist in the air conditioner belt which I partially cleared but can understand it's
worth replacing. Unfortunately the alt belt is at the back so will have to take them all off to replace it... Actually no, can go
over the ps belt ok so just the air con.
I tried to go thru the blacklist but because I don't know the area it's very hard to tell who's nearby or not. I'm fairly practical
& logical but no mechanical experience and doubt I could replace the belts on my own and with my crappy cheap socket set.
Thanks again!
Regards,
JP
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JP Winger
We were rushing to an interview in Soho the other evening, arrived at holland tunnel, the toll attendant didn't know what to make of our vehicle but we got turned back because we had LPG on board. Took us an hour to get there via George Washington bridge and the toll was $39 (I later checked their website & I think she charged us as a truck and it should have been $22).
Apparently no LPG thru Lincoln tunnel either. We missed the interview.
Thanks for the Napa contacts, great, hadn't found them. There's also a napa in Astoria of the way to queens, but not open tomorrow.
Regards,
JP
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
On Dec 10, 2011, at 8:10 PM, "Rob Mueller" <robmu...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> G'day Mate!
>
> I'm a USAussie that grew up in Hoboken, NJ which is just across the Hudson so I am familiar with the area. I checked the Black List
> and unfortunately there isn't anyone near you.
>
> I then went to the Maintenance Manual and tried to find instructions on how to change alternator belts, no luck there either!
>
> I then did a Google Search for Napa Garage, NYC and came up with these two:
>
> Dave's Auto Repair
> 78 Willow ST
> Hoboken, NJ 07030
> (201) 792-9721
> Location Hours
> Mon - Fri: 8:30 AM - 6:00
> Saturday: 8:30 AM - 5:00
Matt Colie
This is an unfortunate example of why to never highjack a thread....
I read the forum only.
I have no interest in I-phones or MagixJax, so I completely ignored that thread. If Karen hadn't posted a break, I still would not know of JP's plight.
I took two of my bachelor's degrees at a college in NYC. I still have friends there and some still own me favors. It has only been 40+ years.
If I had seen this when it was first posted (1600-4pm), I could have had JP the belts he needs by 18-6pm~19-7pm at the latest. It is 2300-11pm there now and there will be little he can do until Monday morning in NY. I'm going to work on some others tomorrow morning, but it is shaky with the east coast blue laws.
Please remember this;
Not everybody read the e-mail list.
Matt
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'73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will find
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
JP Winger
I wondered why I couldn't see my initial email - doh, not so savvy.
Thanks, any help/advice appreciated.
East coast blue laws? Is that union no work Sunday's, hence napa is closed etc?
Regards,
JP
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
Dan Gregg
Wow, someone really needs to change the name of this topic. Why talk about a breakdown in a phone thread? When I break down I scream at top of my lungs HELP and put it where folks can see it.
Sure hope you got what you needed to get going again. I don't care anything about the phone topic but was bored.
Dan,
thankful for the forum
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Soft White LED Lighting
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Matt Colie
JP Winger wrote on Sat, 10 December 2011 15:37
> Hi,
> We are parked in Manhattan (of all places) and one of my belts was badly perished and has come off. It runs around the alternator, fan belt, just below the fan belt(what drive is that?) and the power steering.
> <snip>
JP,
Sorry I missed the original post, but I will do what I can now.
I have tried to catch up, but it is late.
You have a '73. I also have a '73. The boost switch and contactor are continues duty parts. You can use the boost switch to power the chassis systems as long as the house bank holds out. If you run the APU, that is indefinite.
Are you sure that the alternator has not failed a bearing (or 2)?? If you have to have it rebuilt, this may be a longer job than we had hoped.
It will be Sunday there by the time you read this and that is unfortunate. There are still blue laws that require some businesses to close on Sundays in the Tristate (CT, NJ & NY) area. A lot of that has changed recently, but I have not tracked it as I had no reason. For this reason, I suggest that you expand your parts search area to both New Jersey and nearby Connecticut if you run out of southern New York. If you have good internet access, you can do that search from there as well as I can from here. I have included GMC Assist list entries that I am sure are in striking range. You might ask them for local help at procuring parts.
As to replacing belts in a '73. This can all be done from the top. I hope you have a "belly board" to span the engine hatch. I did find I could not get the belts past the fan as the fit to the shroud is that tight (I tried all the way around and all 5 blade - no luck. I had to unbolt the fan drive from the water pump hub at the water pump. You can let it forward against the radiator core - gently - and it will wait there until you have the belts wrapped, but it will have to be back on the tension the belts and that makes getting the PS pump tight a bit of a <insert the NZ work for bugger here> as it limits the room the manage things. This is not a terrible job, just another PITA you don't really need right now.
As to local black list, These are cut and paste based on my knowledge of the local geography.... This is not in any particular order.
Note: Many of the area bridges do not charge a toll if you are outbound from NYC, it would be smart to confirm this with any current local knowledge you can get to.
Geoffrey Wilkes, 31 Van Orden Ave, Suffern, NY 10901 (not far from the next bridge north of the George Washington but on the west side of the Hudson River - get instructions)
I have a good supply of tools and have a fair mechanical bility, however I am new to the GMC coach world 4/09 . I do have all the shop manuals and the technical updates. Hopefully I'll find the right shops and mechanics in my area that are trust worthy and worth their salt when I need them. We are close to NYC transportation and will be willing to give an helping hand to fellow GMC'ers. My wife Kelley and I (plus our dog Rufus) would love to meet fellow GMC owners who are passing by. We are close to Interstae 287/87 and Route 17. Hudson Valley Home (845) 357-0232 Cell (845) 394-0868 Email mailto:gwi...@optonline.net
Tony Badalamenti, West Islip, NY (about 40 miles out on Long Island - past Queens by quite some)
Bearing Tool My Dad and I have had virtually every part off this vehicle at one time or another. Not much room for camping/staying over, but we've got a good selection of tools, spare parts, jacks, jack stands, ramps, manuals, parts books, and cool drinks (or hot if Home 631 376-0918 Cell 631-766-5706 Work 631-376-2296 Email mailto:ae...@hotmail.com
Ron and Julie Kazi, Wilton, CT (about an hour into SW Conn.)
Bearing Tool A bit over an hour from New York City by train or toad in quiet wooded area. Room for several coaches. Up to 30amp hookup. 73 Painted Desert undergoing partial restoration. Twenty five year hobby of car repair/restoration. Willing to roll up sleeves and h Home 203-762-9640 Email mailto:gmcm...@optonline.net
Tom Lins, 2 Elmwood Dr, Milltown, NJ 08850 (still not close, but if you take bridges Brooklyn, Narrows and Outer and go across Staten Island, it might not be bad.)
Have power hookup. Willing to help however I can. Home 732-246-2867 Cell 908-745-9964 Email mailto:tl...@optonline.net
You know you do have to tell us all how this worked out.
Good Luck
Matt - now at the sweet water seas -
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'73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will find
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
Ken Burton
If you are going to replace the belt(s) yourself go to an AutoZone or Advanced auto parts. They are all open on Sundays. To get you going, do not worry about the Air Conditioner belt. Just cut it off as it is shot anyway. Buy a complete set of 3 belts even if you do not replace all of them right now.
I believe with the AC belt gone that you can replace the alternator belt without removing the Power Steering belt. It is larger and should fit over the installed PS belt and pulleys. (I could be wrong on this.) If you can't, It is only one additional bolt to loosen the PS pump and remove that belt also.
Work the the alternator belt over the fan / water pump pulley then the crank and Power Steering pulley and finally over the alternator pulley. As I remember, there are only two bolts to loosen to get the alternator to move all the way in. Move it all the way in and slide the new belt over that pulley. Then move the alternator as far out as you can and pry on it with a long shaft screw driver or small bar to apply as much tension as practical when working from the top. Tighten the bolts and you are finished.
I usually work on prying the alternator from the bottom and tightening the first bolt from there. I can get more tension on the belt from the bottom. For now we are just trying to get you going. If it slips a little you can re-tighten later if necessary.
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76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Richard
What is the email list?
Where in Manhattan is he?
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Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Chico California
Ken Burton
bukzin wrote on Sun, 11 December 2011 00:56
> What is the email list?
>
>
>
> Where in Manhattan is he?
It is the other way of viewing this forum. It sends out one email for every posting, flooding your email inbox with everything whether you want to look at it or not. There is no threading or sub-threading though some people try to single thread based on topic titles using email sorting programs. Others set up special email addresses just for GMCnet to keep the flood from affecting their normal email. Using these methods sub-topic threading is still lost.
You were singed up for it but have the email notification turned off.
I am subscribed to three different forums. Luckily the others do not even offer email. If they did and I was to get all three of these in my inbox, the mess would be totally unmanageable. On one of those forums I probably only look at 10% of the messages but they generate about 3 times the number of postings that GMCnet does. The other one generates about 75% of the postings that GMCnet does per day. Even on GMCnet I probably only look at around 50% of the postings.
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76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Rob Mueller
Thanks for letting us know that you can't drive through the tunnels with LPG!
I assume the toll attendant asked you if you had LPG and you told the truth.
Question to the group - is this SOP for all tunnels?
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: JP Winger
G'day and thanks!
We were rushing to an interview in Soho the other evening, arrived at holland tunnel, the toll attendant didn't know what to make of
our vehicle but we got turned back because we had LPG on board. Took us an hour to get there via George Washington bridge and the
toll was $39 (I later checked their website & I think she charged us as a truck and it should have been $22).
Apparently no LPG thru Lincoln tunnel either. We missed the interview.
Thanks for the Napa contacts, great, hadn't found them. There's also a napa in Astoria of the way to queens, but not open tomorrow.
Regards,
JP
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Matt Colie
JP Winger wrote on Sat, 10 December 2011 23:26
> Ah thanks Matt,
> I wondered why I couldn't see my initial email - doh, not so savvy.
> Thanks, any help/advice appreciated.
> East coast blue laws? Is that union no work Sunday's, hence napa is closed etc?
> Regards,
> JP
>
> John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
JP,
If you are reading the forum, there is more under the migxjax thread.
Blue laws are a throw-back to days when the region was ruled by puritan churches that though nobody should be doing any shopping on Sunday. Grocery and pharmacies were excluded, but most all else was forced to either stay closed or restrict sales to approved items.
I remember a fight to kill them in NJ, but they existed in some counties of NY and CT until recently. As I was indicating, a native guide will help a lot. Go get the other post.
And Good Luck
Matt Colie
Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 11 December 2011 08:42
> JP,
>
> Thanks for letting us know that you can't drive through the tunnels with LPG!
>
> I assume the toll attendant asked you if you had LPG and you told the truth.
>
> Question to the group - is this SOP for all tunnels?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
Rob,
There are four tunnels to Manhattan Island.
Lincoln and Holland go to across the Hudson to the west. Neither of those used to allow LP under any circumstance.
The Brooklyn Battery - way south, and the Queens Midtown - in the 30s on the west side didn't have signs like the other two. But, they are owned by the city MTA. The Hudson pair are owned by the Port Authority.
I know that the Chesapeake Bay Bridge/Tunnel has restrictions, but other than charging us for three axles - the same fare as a Grayhound bus - they are not a problem.
I do not believe that there are any LP restrictions on either the two Baltimore or the pair down at Newport-Portsouth and Hampton-Norfolk.
There are two more tunnels in Boston, but I managed to never drive a truck in Boston.
The Lincoln and Holland are both old tunnels. They used to have very bad ventilation. That, plus the fact that the Port Authority likes its own rules may be most of the issue.
Maybe someone with more current knowledge will pick up here.
Matt
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Matt & Mary Colie
'73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will find
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
JP Winger
We didn't get asked/stopped going through the i95 tunnel at Baltimore last week.
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
JP Winger
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
Tim Conway
> John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126
Hi JP,
I just tried the above phone number and got the message -not reachable-. I've been calling some stores and located one that says they have all three belts. Pep Boys in Long Island City, just the other side of the East River.
Try me on my cell phone six 3 one 6 seven 8 six 1 6 ate.
If you need me to, I'll go get them and bring them to you. If I don't hear from you, I'll post the address here for you.
Best wishes, Tim
Tim Conway
LI NY 78 PB
gene Fisher
powering battery fine and we'd been doing lots of night driving up until
now.
My guess is , that it is a belt issue
belt size
tension
alignment.
when you get home, do this
http://goo.gl/4ISHN
and mount a tensioner tool to the alternator and AC.
good luck
gene
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“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
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http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
Johnny Bridges
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
________________________________
From: Rob Mueller <robmu...@iinet.net.au>
To: gmc...@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] help, drive belt has broken in Manhattan!
JP Winger
I think I have to top up my phone, will do now and call you back!
JP
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
Thomas Phipps
Use SKYPE and accomplish the exact same VoIP telephone communications. Anywhere you have WiFi, you will have VoIP communications. Skype to Skype is FREE, If you want a Skype out (Skype to any phone in US and Canada) account; it is $30 a year. If you want a Skype In account; it is an additional $60 per year. Skype In allows you to have a "Skype number" that anyone can call from a land line, etc, and talk to you (provided you are connected), also gives you a voice mail component.
I have used Skype to Skype (free version) to talk to my wife, when She was on a TDY to Singapore. The GovT paid for overseas up grades to their blackberry phones, but the up-grade was less than successful.
I have no landline at this time.
Tom Phipps,
MS II
Bob de Kruyff
When I first posted this, I really meant that it would be a good app for those who already use Majicjack at home for 19.95 per year. This way you can travel (in your GMC) and use your landline for outgoing and incoming calls no matter where you are.
--
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Emery Stora
propane tanks. Even there you have to turn off the tank valve and if I
remember correctly you have to stay In the center lane.
Emery Stora
On Dec 11, 2011, at 8:36 AM, JP Winger <lavidal...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Matt Colie
JP Winger wrote on Sun, 11 December 2011 10:43
> Thanks, I did notice the belt peeling the other day but it was late at night and we were in a hurry to ny and then I forgot. It is really shredded, how hard is it to figure out if there's an alternator issue - it had been powering battery fine and we'd been doing lots of night driving up until now.
>
> John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
JP,
When you have the chance, spin the sheave on the alternator. It should turn smoothly, and with very little resistance (brush drag only). If it us not smooth or makes any noise, you may have a problem there. Such things as this are funny that way, the electric side can be just fine, but the mechanical is in trouble or vice-versa. Happens all the time.
In case you have missed this, I do (used to) a lot of work upgrading the electrics on boats. As a direct result, I have become really aware that a single belt is good for about a 100amp alternator output. If you have that large an alternator, but it can't get there or can't hold that, you may make it. If you have been away from shore power for much of your travel and then running at night (the lighting load on an original coach is over 25amp) the combination could have pushed the alternator belt to near its limits. If it wasn't in great shape to start, that could have been all it took. The belt may just have been over age. That sort of thing happens with a 39yo anything.
I'm glad you have local assistance and a line on belts.
Matt
JP Winger
I'll try call a couple of you for advice but I'm trying to drive away but now when I turn the wheel the PS belt squeals and shudders a bit to get the wheels turned hard (this is Manhattan - I'm parked in by a range rover and a BMW - abt 6 inches either side so it'll require a 50 pt turn to get out). Squealing and starting to smell a little but from what I can see it's just the belt slipping and the alt belt must have been helping it out! Hopefully it won't damage it for me to use for 10 miles?
I'll try again and it may be lots better once not in such a fix but any advise welcome.
Regards,
JP
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
JP Winger
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
JP Winger
I can see a single nut there in the gap between the wheel? And the power steering frame, do you loosen that with a wrench (or take it off?) and somehow pry it tighter?
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
JP Winger
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
gene Fisher
You do not even need the MJ unit attached, just your account, log in
I almost never talk comp to comp. and have no other long distance carrier,
or no data plan. so MJ is doing a lot for me for 1$ a month ;>)
thanks again
gene
--
Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
-------
http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
gene Fisher
but the real deal is to tighten the PS belt so it have 1/4 inch deflection
gene
--
Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
-------
http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
JP Winger
I've never tightened a belt before, I have a metal bar to wide to get in the gap where the shaft is so I tried to prize it against the water pump sheeth but couldn't budge it. Does the PS move straight across horizontal or diagonally?
Any tips to freeing it up?
Thanks
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
On Dec 11, 2011, at 1:42 PM, "Dan Winchester" <gmc...@dwinchester.com> wrote:
> I may have missed it but has anyone warned you not to port on the sheet metal reservoir on the power steering pump.
>
> Dan Winchester
> www.dwinchester.com
Don Adams
<<<< tried to prize it against the water pump sheeth but couldn't budge it.... Any tips to freeing it up?>>>>
Be sure all nuts are loose, including pivot bolt. And be very careful where you pry on power steering pump. Should not be a problem if ALL nuts are loose.
--
Don
Dallas, TX
1976 26' Glenbrook
rebuilt by R Archer
powered by J Bounds, Koba
JP Winger
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
Mike Miller
JP Winger wrote on Sun, 11 December 2011 11:52
> From what I've been told and could see its just the one nut just above the PS shaft. Is that the pivot bolt? Or am I missing something, thanks! ...
On any belt driven accessory, There are AT LEAST two points of attachment the more power being used the more points. IIRC the power steering pump has only TWO attaching points. One is accessed through a hole in the pulley.
I have always had the best luck tightening the belts using a jack and a length of wood. I "jack up" the alternator, PS pump or AC compressor until the belt is a little more than "tight." After tightening the attachment bolts and removing the jack, everything relaxes back... leaving the belts "just right." Just be careful... with this method, it is easy to over-tighten the belts and isn't good for bearings and the like.
--
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
http://m000035.blogspot.com
Emery Stora
Emery Stora
On Dec 11, 2011, at 12:52 PM, JP Winger wrote:
> From what I've been told and could see its just the one nut just above the PS shaft. Is that the pivot bolt? Or am I missing something, thanks!
>
> John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
>
> On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Don Adams <dj.a...@att.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> <<<< tried to prize it against the water pump sheeth but couldn't budge it.... Any tips to freeing it up?>>>>
>>
>> Be sure all nuts are loose, including pivot bolt. And be very careful where you pry on power steering pump. Should not be a problem if ALL nuts are loose.
>>
>> --
>> Don
_______________________________________________
JP Winger
How do you read the threads / forum online?
I only get the emails.
Thanks,
JP
John-Paul Winger | Miriam Clancy JP+1 310 9231126 | NZ+64 21 997919 | skype:lavidalocations | lavidal...@gmail.com
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Dan Gregg
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/
Click the link and sign in. Much simpler.
Dan
--
Dan & Teri Gregg
Soft White LED Lighting
Mike Miller
WD0AFQ wrote on Sun, 11 December 2011 20:42
> http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/
>
> Click the link and sign in. Much simpler.
> Dan
If I am using someone else's computer, I enter bdub.net (for "Billy W.") and use the links of his site. Go to: "GMC Motorhome Pages" and the top link on the page is the web based forum.
--
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
http://m000035.blogspot.com
Ken Burton
WD0AFQ wrote on Sun, 11 December 2011 22:42
> http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/
>
> Click the link and sign in. Much simpler.
> Dan
When you get there the first time you will need to click on login and then forgot password. Then enter you email address (it must be the same address that you use on the mail list).
Your user id and password will be sent to your email address.
You can view without logging in but all of tracking of which postings you have already seen will be lost. So go through effort of logging in the first time. After that your log in will be automatic every time you sign on from the same computer. You can sign of from multiple computers any time you wish and still end up automatically logged in at the correct place.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
JP Winger
I got the 1st 2 belts fine but now I'm at pep boys and they stock dayco and can't find a ref in their system for what I need for the ac belt, do you Know how we can find out?
Thanks!
Jp
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
On Dec 10, 2011, at 5:03 PM, KB <ka...@sonic.net> wrote:
> Here are some belt part numbers for the 455 engine:
>
> Fan belt - alternator:
> Napa value line or Dayco 15570
> Napa 25-7570
> Goodyear 15574
>
> Fan belt, water pump & power steering:
> Dayco 15450
> Goodyear 15466
> Napa 25-7450
>
> Fan belt, air conditioner:
> Napa value line 15620
> Goodyear 15634
> Napa (NBH line) 25-7619
>
>
> If your generator runs, you can use it to keep your batteries
> charged up without the alternator. See:
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/batt.htm#101
>
> hope this helps,
>
> Karen
> 1973 23'
> 1975 26'
mr.er...@gmail.com
Gene
FREE WIFI @ Mickey D
Emery Stora
conditioning. I am in my car right now (in a parking lot) so I can't
look up a number for you.
Emery Stora
On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:08 PM, JP Winger <lavidal...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
JP Winger
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
Larry Davick
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
mr.er...@gmail.com
Gene
FREE WIFI @ Mickey D
Ken Henderson
In your situation, don't check for width, else you'll spend the next week
hunting all over the NY area hunting them. Not one of the NAPA, AutoZone,
Advance Auto, CarQuest, or O'Reilly's stores here had "wide enough" belts
last week. We're waiting for some supposedly wide enough belts via mail
order.
Ken H.
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:03 PM, wrote:
> Measure and check for width
>
>
Larry Davick
I just go to my local parts store. They have everything, even the right sized belts. It's a place called Applied GMC ;~)
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Henderson" >
To: gmc...@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 2:24:38 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] help, drive belt has broken in Manhattan!
JP,
In your situation, don't check for width, else you'll spend the next week
hunting all over the NY area hunting them. Not one of the NAPA, AutoZone,
Advance Auto, CarQuest, or O'Reilly's stores here had "wide enough" belts
last week. We're waiting for some supposedly wide enough belts via mail
order.
Ken H.
Howard and Sue
Ken Henderson
but within reason. It makes no sense economically, or schedule-wise, to
order ordinary replacement parts from all the way across the country which
should be immediately available locally.
Nor does it make sense to pay over three times the price, plus the cost of
shipping, for an ordinary item for which I (actually, my son) know the
specifications. JimK would consider me nuts to do that if he knew the
specifics.
If you like, I'll promise not to tell you if the $5.00 Kevlar alternator
belts prove to NOT be the correct width.
Ken H.
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Larry Davick wrote:
> Gee, Ken,
>
> I just go to my local parts store. They have everything, even the right
> sized belts. It's a place called Applied GMC ;~)
>
>
JP Winger
Changed my first ever belt, embarrassed it took forty years but at least i got there.
Got the alternator belt on ok BUT after running it a few minutes (and then remembering the socket is still on the lower hard to get to bolt) it is way too loose - not that it moved but it has abt 1&1/2 to 2" play and you can see it moving all over the show whereas the ps is nice and straight.
So guess I need to find something better to torque it with and employ my 11 yr olds help (while the littler news scream for dinner) or it'll do some harm to itself and who knows what.
It looks like there should be a 3rd bolt but I looked all through the manual and couldn't find an example. Also the lower drivers side bolt has does not carry right through and have a nut on the other side, but it does tighten well. Is that normal or problematic?
I have an extra PO installed (york air con)air compressor, currently disabled, right below my alternator so things may be a but different due to that. Hopefully will get out of pep boys Carpark shortly!
Thanks.
JP
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
Matt Colie
ljdavick wrote on Mon, 12 December 2011 17:30
> Gee, Ken,
>
> I just go to my local parts store. They have everything, even the right sized belts. It's a place called Applied GMC ;~)
>
>
> Larry Davick
Larry,
Please don't be offended, but just sit down and Shut Up.
Thank You
Matt
--
Matt & Mary Colie
'73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will find
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
Matt Colie
JP Winger wrote on Mon, 12 December 2011 19:36
> Finally,
>
> Changed my first ever belt, embarrassed it took forty years but at least i got there.
> Got the alternator belt on ok BUT after running it a few minutes (and then remembering the socket is still on the lower hard to get to bolt) it is way too loose - not that it moved but it has abt 1&1/2 to 2" play and you can see it moving all over the show whereas the ps is nice and straight.
> So guess I need to find something better to torque it with and employ my 11 yr olds help (while the littler news scream for dinner) or it'll do some harm to itself and who knows what.
>
> It looks like there should be a 3rd bolt but I looked all through the manual and couldn't find an example. Also the lower drivers side bolt has does not carry right through and have a nut on the other side, but it does tighten well. Is that normal or problematic?
>
> I have an extra PO installed (york air con)air compressor, currently disabled, right below my alternator so things may be a but different due to that. Hopefully will get out of pep boys Carpark shortly!
>
> Thanks.
> JP
JP,
I guess I am amused that you are embarrassed....
It seems you managed to come fully half way around the globe to deal with a component failure in an antique vehicle in very possibly the worst location on the planet to do such a thing, and you did it with the wife and kids in tow. And that is not to mention that more few GMC owners could not manage to change those belts if they had then in their hand.
And yes, the lower pivot bolt (that I forgot to mention) is in a blind (threaded) hole.
The alternator belt is tough to get tight. But after you pull, pry or level it up, it is easiest to tighten the most outboard - highest bolt to lock it at tension. Then you can make up the other two without any hurry.
Where is the Pep Boys that you found - Geographically?
Matt
--
Matt & Mary Colie
'73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will find
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
JP Winger
Long island city, just across bridge from mid manhattan.
Just bought a 20" swivel socket bar - should be enough to get some decent torque.
3rd / middle bolt is missing but hopefully that's ok for now!?
Jp
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
Tim Conway
On Dec 12, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
> Where is the Pep Boys that you found - Geographically?
It's just a few blocks on the Queens side of the 59th Street AKA Queensboro AKA Ed Koch Bridge...
Pep Boys 718-784-1414
38-50 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
Tim Conway
LI NY 78 PB
_______________________________________________
Kosier
It's also very important that you measure the belts correctly.
Gary Kosier
77EII & 77PB
Newark, Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Henderson" <hend...@bellsouth.net>
To: <gmc...@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] help, drive belt has broken in Manhattan!
Ken Henderson
of the belt but the angle of the sides and the overall thickness. Should
be a pretty simple rectangle of aluminum or plastic with a V cut into it
and a scribe mark at the proper height. IF we just had the specifications
for the measurements.
Ken H.
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Kosier wrote:
> Ken,
>
> It's also very important that you measure the belts correctly.
>
>
gene Fisher
just 1/4 inch deflection, is it, for all 3 belts
http://goo.gl/lGpv9
they almost cannot get too tight
and the tension tools, make it easy.
http://goo.gl/YtSf6
no big thoughts here
> Yep. We need a gauge
>
--
Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
-------
http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
Sammy Williams
downtown and didnt see any GMCs anywhere...
Then after driving around it dawned on me., he meant Manhattan New York.....
Not Manhattan, Kansas. LOL
My bad
S. Williams
Rob Mueller
Could you not make a template out of a thin piece of aluminum that fits into the groove of the pulley perfectly and then use that to
make a gage for the belt?
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson
Yep. We need a gauge which not only takes into account the span of the top
of the belt but the angle of the sides and the overall thickness. Should
be a pretty simple rectangle of aluminum or plastic with a V cut into it
and a scribe mark at the proper height. IF we just had the specifications
for the measurements.
Ken H.
_______________________________________________
Jim Kanomata
It might not be 100% accurate, but good enough for our fussy air
conditioning customers.
--
Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
ji...@appliedairfilters.com
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
Marsha
I thought the same thing at first. Great minds think alike!
Marsha
--- On Mon, 12/12/11, Sammy Williams <bd5...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Sammy Williams <bd5...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] help, drive belt has broken in Manhattan!
Bob de Kruyff
"" Could you not make a template out of a thin piece of aluminum that fits into the groove of the pulley perfectly and then use that to
> make a gage for the belt?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
""
HMMM--sounds like a good plastic keyring application.
--
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Ken Henderson
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/TB-WOODS-VBeltSheave-Groove-Gauge-10Y311?cm_mmc=GoogleBase-_-Power%20Transmission-_-Power%20Transmission%20Belts-_-10Y311&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=10Y311
How to do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87MtHNzOq3g
Also interesting: http://www.accessdayco.com/Auto.aspx
http://www.gizmology.net/pulleysbelts.htm
Ken H.
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> Yep. We need a gauge which not only takes into account the span of the
> top of the belt but the angle of the sides and the overall thickness.
> Should be a pretty simple rectangle of aluminum or plastic with a V cut
> into it and a scribe mark at the proper height. IF we just had the
> specifications for the measurements.
>
>
>
Rob Mueller
Lots of good info!
Thanks for doing the legwork!
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson
Guess I should ask Google before I claim good ideas:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/TB-WOODS-VBeltSheave-Groove-Gauge-10Y311?cm_mmc=GoogleBase-_-Power%20Transmission-_-Power%20Transmi
ssion%20Belts-_-10Y311&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=10Y311
How to do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87MtHNzOq3g
Also interesting: http://www.accessdayco.com/Auto.aspx
http://www.gizmology.net/pulleysbelts.htm
Ken H.
JP Winger
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidal...@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations